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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:55 PM
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Does anyone think Saddam may be 'restored to power'? If Iraq
sinks any deeper into violence and disarray, is it possible that the location (wherever that may be) in which he is being held could be overrun?
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:56 PM
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1. Doubt it
Freepers's heads would explode trying to defend their fearless leader after telling us for the past four years (I count sabre-rattling in 2002 as the fourth year) that Saddam is the worst dictator since Hilter, and needed to go.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:55 AM
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20. Those words are ancient history, now it is Chavez that is worse
than Hitler...I think the President of Iran is worse than Hitler as well. Liberals are just Nazis didn't you know so we are worse than Hitler also...:shrug: It is how a third of Americans see us..
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:58 PM
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2. the only way saddam would come back to power-
would be if there was an election among the iraqi people- and he and shrub were the only two candidates.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:18 PM
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8. Don't bet much money on that one
Iraq under Saddam was reasonably peaceful.

Yes, I know Saddam was running torture chambers, rape rooms, summary executions...what was he, number-three on the list of the World's Ten Worst Dictators for twenty years straight? Well, at least Bush told me Saddam was a worthless piece of shit, and that may be one of the two truthful things Bush has told us since November 2000--the other being that he wishes he was a dictator. Saddam Hussein really was a worthless piece of shit--and prison hasn't improved him any.

OTOH, when Saddam was in power the lights came on when you wanted them to, the streets didn't have holes in them, the police kept crime to a minimum, you could get food, you could get gasoline, there was a modicum of religious freedom...

Today, none of those things are true--and Abu Ghraib Prison, complete with torture chambers and rape rooms, is still running wide open.

Saddam could steal Ronald Reagan's first campaign slogan--"are you better off now than you were four years ago?"--and win by a landslide. Because the Iraqi people are NOT better off now than they were four years ago.

He'd win by bigger margins than anyone who doesn't write "put a yes vote in this box or we'll put you in one" on the side of the ballot boxes if he'd pull a Hitler and tell people he has the Solution To The Crisis Iraq Is Facing. (One of the issues in the election that put Hitler in office was the German depression. Hitler said he was gonna fix it. Hitler knew that the reason Germany was in depression was the terrible war reparations they were facing, and he also knew that the Treaty of Versailles called for the reparations to be paid in Reichsmarks. Hitler changed the currency to Deutschmarks, then told the victors that since Germany no longer used Reichsmarks, the reparations were null and void. It worked, too.) In the case of Iraq, the main problem is that the United States Army is running around blowing the shit out of people.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:32 PM
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10. re-read my post...i think that we agree.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:24 AM
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16. Not quite
Let's skip past all the geopolitical aspects of Saddam's reign and get right to the point: Under Saddam Hussein, the average Iraqi had the very best standard of living of anyone in the Middle East. You remember all that horseshit about terrorists seeking medical care in Iraq that Bush was laying down to justify going to war against Saddam? Well, it was true--and there was a reason for it: before we threw on the embargo, Iraq had the best medical care of any country in the Persian Gulf. Of course terrorists were going to Iraq for medical treatment--medical tourism was big business for Iraq.

You know how Bush likes to justify his war by bragging about all the schools we reopened? Before the war, Iraq had great schools. And they were integrated schools--boys and girls in the same classrooms, sitting next to each other. Oh! The horror! Imagine THAT shit happening in almost any other country in the Muslim belt.

And Saddam Hussein was responsible for it all.

Put Saddam in the election. Let him tell the people that before he was dictator Iraq was a terrible mess. When he was dictator Iraq was a great place to live (so long as you weren't trying to overthrow him, put in a theocracy or commit a crime, and then your shit was real weak), and now that he's been overthrown Iraq is once again a terrible mess. Let him tell the people "I fixed it before, I can fix it again." Let him tell the people he'll have fewer torture chambers and rape rooms than the US Army is running. And then use paper ballots to count the election--no Diebold shit. Saddam will win the election.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:21 PM
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9. Well, the French were pretty happy to get Napoleon back
and the English seemed pretty content to get their king back after Cromwell's theocracy
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:44 PM
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13. Don't forget
America reelected Bush
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:52 PM
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14. that's debateable-
IF 2004 was a legitimate victory (extremely doubtful)- it was his one and only, because 2000 was Gore's.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:59 PM
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3. Well, you know...
Most of the insurgents are his army! Anything could happen and nothing would surprise me. Getting him out of jail would be the hardest part, but after that, anything goes!






Dibs on the top bunk.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:03 PM
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4. I've often wondered how and where he's being kept. The security logistics
must be mind-boggling..of course many 'principals' associated with the trial HAVE been assassinated.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:36 PM
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11. And by whom have they been assassintated...
That is the question.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:03 PM
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5. Hardly
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:03 PM
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6. Sorry! No visit from me!
I'll be in brand new digs in one of our detention camps.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:08 PM
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7. lol..(albeit nervously...) n/t
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:39 PM
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12. Actually, that would be pretty cool!
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 08:41 PM by iamahaingttta
The civil war in Iraq has begun. Saddam's people storm the prison and rescue him, and he is returned to power in the Sunni Triangle. The Kurds split off and the Shiite south is eventually split between Iran and Kuwait. Maybe Saudi Arabia gets a piece. Saddam gets the World Court to condemn George W. Bush et al.

That sounds about right! I would like to read about it in a history book from 50 years in the future.


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jumpoffdaplanet Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:02 PM
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15. That was the topic at a dinner yesterday
Surprisingly, there was agreement that this could happen.

Wierd, huh.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:25 AM
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17. No way. The genie is out of the bottle. Shiites want control. n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:29 AM
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18. Bush will see that Saddam is dead before he would ever leave..
Bet on it.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:29 AM
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19. No
That won't happen. The majority sect in this unrest is no fan of his. And, if this thing turns into all out civil war, he'll be in bigger trouble than he is now. If anyone "overruns" his location, it will likely be Shia. That would be all she wrote for Saddam.
The Professor
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