Psychosis is the military Freeper in question. He doesn't
believe that there are cuts in the military heath care and
they're going to have a lot of problems when he's out. Claims
to be in Iraq and back. I'll be asking him for his DD-24 (or
whatever it is called) when he's back online.
[23 Feb 21:18:37] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'regardless of the
magnitude of the screwing, its screwing nonethless. screwing
being what the army did to you.'
[23 Feb 21:18:53] (Debate) Savash: 'Navy, not Army.'
[23 Feb 21:18:58] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'close enough'
[23 Feb 21:19:03] (Debate) Savash: 'I've never grunted in my
life :D'
[23 Feb 21:19:04] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Die.'
[23 Feb 21:19:05] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'just the army with
boats'
[23 Feb 21:19:13] (Debate) Hilgraeve: 'Very different aspects
of military dude.'
[23 Feb 21:19:16] (Debate) Jutduli: 'depends - is it
entitlement or something earned - in the case of disabled VEt
id say earned'
[23 Feb 21:19:29] (Debate) Savash: 'It's an entitlement.'
[23 Feb 21:19:38] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Not always Jut lol I am
going to be getting 70% for something I've had since before
being in the military'
[23 Feb 21:19:51] (Debate) Savash: 'Awesome'
[23 Feb 21:20:03] (Debate) Jutduli: 'then if they dont give it
to u then your not missing something (ie your not screwed)
just didnt get the entitlement (a promise broken)'
[23 Feb 21:20:34] (Debate) Savash: 'I had a buddy who had both
his lungs collapse. He admitted smoking pot before joining, so
instead of 100% he gets 50% - which is still pretty nice'
[23 Feb 21:20:37] (Debate) Evine: 'so, I Just finished a
comparison paper for English, need to get some 'ood 'ole
shuteye... see ya all!'
[23 Feb 21:20:45] (Debate) Jutduli: 'bros in the militray and
the vets i have worked with - it all sounds good to me
regardless'
[23 Feb 21:21:01] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'huh?'
[23 Feb 21:21:09] (Debate) Psychosis: 'I can tell you almost
90% of people when they get out of the army should have
pension for knee/ankle problems from running so much, and most
people get at LEAST 30%. That's 1/3 of your pay for the rest
of your life.'
[23 Feb 21:21:12] (Debate) Savash: 'In my case, I was
originally rated as 30% disabled. Then just before the cut
off, they rated me at 10%.'
[23 Feb 21:21:24] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Add that to another job
and you're sitting pretty well.'
[23 Feb 21:21:48] (Debate) Jutduli: 'most i have heard is they
'diminish' the percentage is all.. if you wanna call that
screwed then ok'
[23 Feb 21:21:59] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'well I do'
[23 Feb 21:22:09] (Debate) Savash: 'Yeah, I called it screwed
too.'
[23 Feb 21:22:19] (Debate) Jutduli: 'saving costs yada yada'
[23 Feb 21:22:35] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'if they promis you
something for risking your life and your health, and you dont
get it, your being screwed'
[23 Feb 21:22:42] (Debate) Savash: 'But you know, the HUGE
lump sum they gave me when they finally released me was not so
bad.'
[23 Feb 21:22:44] (Debate) Psychosis: 'They don't promise you
any pension.'
[23 Feb 21:22:48] (Debate) Psychosis: 'When you join'
[23 Feb 21:23:04] (Debate) Savash: 'You only get a pension if
you do 20 years, or get disabled'
[23 Feb 21:23:11] (Debate) Jutduli: 'nod..'
[23 Feb 21:23:14] (Debate) Savash: 'And they don't promise
either will happen'
[23 Feb 21:23:45] (Debate) Xyliz: 'bait and switch recruiting'
[23 Feb 21:23:50] (Debate) Psychosis: 'They pay you what they
say they would pay you, up to you to work the med board to
make as big a pension as possible.'
[23 Feb 21:24:02] (Debate) Jutduli: 'promise the world but
deliver the living room :)'
[23 Feb 21:24:13] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'what ticks me off is
that they started trying to recruit me at 17'
[23 Feb 21:24:21] (Debate) Savash: 'The one area I got screwed
the most was on the G.I. Bill - and not because of the Navy,
but because I couldn't get anyone to accept it. I'd have to
fork over the cash then the Navy would reimburse me.'
[23 Feb 21:24:25] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'and set up booths in
my highschool'
[23 Feb 21:24:43] (Debate) Savash: 'Bait and switch recruiting
is the fault of individuals.'
[23 Feb 21:24:56] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Because 25 year old
recruits are better than people in their prime?'
[23 Feb 21:24:58] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'that doesnt mean its
right'
[23 Feb 21:25:09] (Debate) Poe: 'the problem is with the
contract. it basically says that they can promise whatever
they want and don't have to come through'
[23 Feb 21:25:23] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'because I dont want
to be solicited in a damn public school'
[23 Feb 21:25:26] (Debate) Jutduli: 'ya even miltray lawyers
are scum rofl'
[23 Feb 21:25:37] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Go to a private
school.'
[23 Feb 21:25:46] (Debate) Savash: 'Actually, Poe, any
promises should be in the contract to be valid.'
[23 Feb 21:26:10] (Debate) Jutduli: 'the revolution will be
televised! (turn the channel if you dont like the supreme
ruler :>)'
[23 Feb 21:26:30] (Debate) Fiendish: 'the television will be
revolutionised.'
[23 Feb 21:26:33] (Debate) Psychosis: 'The biggest problem I
think is that most recruiters don't let their recruits know of
all the advantages they CAN get when they are signing up.'
[23 Feb 21:26:50] (Debate) Savash: 'And I've seen several
people who had such contracts, the military didn't follow
through, and the person got discharged after the Navy had
spend money training them'
[23 Feb 21:26:54] (Debate) Jutduli: 'look at HD -- we HAVE to
go digital - they have decree it -- do you get a choice -- no'
[23 Feb 21:26:55] (Debate) Fiendish: 'benefits such as a
bullet in the head.'
[23 Feb 21:27:11] (Debate): Forestseer snickers with Fiendish
about their shared secret.
[23 Feb 21:27:25] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'and they keep
harassing you even if you tell them you dont want to, have
asthma and want to be taken off whatever call list they have'
[23 Feb 21:27:39] (Debate): Jackscoccyx is agreeing with that
a pit fiend person again...
[23 Feb 21:27:41] (Debate) Jutduli: 'they KNOW you want to
JOIN Jack :P'
[23 Feb 21:27:57] (Debate) Poe: 'they used to call me until I
answered the phone "central california communist party,
how may I help you?''
[23 Feb 21:28:06] (Debate) Jutduli: 'its the wiretap
conversations :P'
[23 Feb 21:28:08] (Debate): Jackscoccyx falls down laughing.
[23 Feb 21:28:11] (Debate): Noplacebo grins evilly at Poe.
[23 Feb 21:28:30] (Debate) Psychosis: 'I called the
recruiter.'
[23 Feb 21:28:43] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Knowing we were going
to war.'
[23 Feb 21:29:00] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'you signed up because
we were going to war?'
[23 Feb 21:29:09] (Debate) Psychosis: 'I signed up because our
towers fell down.'
[23 Feb 21:29:27] (Debate) Savash: 'Ask to talk to their
commanding officer. Recruiting office COs tend to be anal
retentive by the book types.'
[23 Feb 21:29:40] (Debate) Jutduli: 'my biddy of mine sigend
up for that too but ranger training screwed up his ankle and
got discharged'
[23 Feb 21:29:58] (Debate) Savash: 'Some lowly E5 harassing
you still has to answer to an O3'
[23 Feb 21:30:09] (Debate) Evine: 'My poor poor printer... My
English Essay takes up 7 pages, and I wrote it in 2 hours...
heh'
[23 Feb 21:30:26] (Debate) Jutduli: 'single or double space
Evine :P'
[23 Feb 21:30:38] (Debate) Evine: 'single...'
[Enter key for more or 'q' to stop]
[23 Feb 21:30:41] (Debate) Noplacebo: 'size 20 font'
[23 Feb 21:30:42] (Debate) Evine: 'hate double'
[23 Feb 21:30:50] (Debate) Savash: 'When I joined, the
recruiter had called my mother, and I hadn't lived with her in
years.'
[23 Feb 21:30:50] (Debate) Evine: 'size 12'
[23 Feb 21:31:07] (Debate) Evine: 'double looks sooo
unprofessional...'
[23 Feb 21:31:08] (Debate) Jutduli: 'they have outdated call
lists'
[23 Feb 21:31:25] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Yes actually my mother
got the call, and told me. I thought about it for a bit, and
called them back.'
[23 Feb 21:31:40] (Debate) Jutduli: 'probably last known info
in the system'
[23 Feb 21:31:58] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Yes, the ROTC program
at my school probably put me in whatever list they had'
[23 Feb 21:32:12] (Debate) Jutduli: 'nah did you register when
ya turned 18?'
[23 Feb 21:32:20] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Yea'
[23 Feb 21:32:28] (Debate) Jutduli: 'bingo.. last known
contact info'
[23 Feb 21:32:31] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'I was solicited
before then'
[23 Feb 21:32:43] (Debate) Savash: 'Shouldn't have been,
Jack.'
[23 Feb 21:32:48] (Debate) Jutduli: 'in i was in college they
did the same thing back in the early 90s'
[23 Feb 21:32:51] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'highschool rotc. part
of the child left behind act'
[23 Feb 21:33:02] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'no child left behind
act'
[23 Feb 21:33:13] (Debate) Savash: 'You had it right the first
time :D'
[23 Feb 21:33:20] (Debate): Jackscoccyx is agreeing with that
Savash person again...
[23 Feb 21:33:26] (Debate) Fiendish: 'um, jrotc isn't part of
no child left behind'
[23 Feb 21:33:39] (Debate) Jackscoccyx: 'look it up'
[23 Feb 21:33:47] (Debate) Jutduli: 'wheee when they tell you
growing up its in your PERMENANT record -- tada - there is one
in a central govt repository muahahaha :P'
[23 Feb 21:33:59] (Debate) Psychosis: 'lol'
[23 Feb 21:34:00] (Debate) Fiendish: 'it existed long before '
[23 Feb 21:34:16] (Debate) Jutduli: 'the really old ones are
stone carved'
[23 Feb 21:42:56] (Debate) Psychosis: 'So..... Bush rocks.'
[23 Feb 21:43:17] (Debate) Psychosis: 'Sorry, it was getting
quiet.'
[23 Feb 21:43:25] (Debate) Mikejs: 'this isn't that
"blatant lies" channel'
[23 Feb 21:43:54] (Debate) Savash: 'I think he was being
literal. As in, he wants rocks thrown at Bush.'
[23 Feb 21:44:00] (Debate) Psychosis: 'lol'
[23 Feb 21:44:18] (Debate) Psychosis: 'I hope he finds some
loophole so that we can vote for him again at the end of his
term.'
[23 Feb 21:44:23] (Debate) Mikejs: 'or perhaps he was doing
something phonetically? like, sew bushes to rocks or
something...'