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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:59 AM
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What is the US doing to help quell the potential civil war in Iraq?
I heard two quotes on NPR this morning. A US official said that the Iraqi government is well equipped to take care of security without US intervention.

Then an Iraqi official said "Why aren't the Americans helping?"

Mission accomplished.



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The Sleeper Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:02 AM
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1. Quell ??
That means the same thing as foment, right ?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:04 AM
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2. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no
It's not a "civil war," silly! It's sectarian violence. Please get the Bush administration-approved locution right. See, Bush's idiot followers know what a civil war is, so we all have to say "sectarian violence," which will cause those followers to stop for a moment before thanking George the Great and Powerful for not starting a civil war in Iraq.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:07 AM
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5. That's funny because I've been thinking, they finally got what they wanted
They finally revived the Civil War but it's not the war they've been reliving for the past 140 years. I live in the south and you still see the "Forget, Hell" bumper stickers with the little Johnnie Reb character on them. And the ones you see are usually attached to a vehicle with a big ol' W sticker.



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:32 AM
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16. Best reply I've seen
Best reply I've seen to the "heritage" and "forget, hell" arguments was someone else -- I think here at DU -- who said, "Oh, you're all about heritage and tradition? Well, my great-great-grandpappy fought with the 134th Indiana Irregulars, and it's my family's tradition and heritage to fire on any traitorous rebel sumbitch flying that flag."
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:41 AM
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14. Yeah, it's not the "Civil War," it's the "War Between the States"
Ah, yes, that sounds soooooo much better.

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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:04 AM
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3. Last nite on Lehrer the two Iraqi guests said there wasn't much
the US could do now - just try to mediate.

And one went into a long list of US complete screwups that led to this.
It certainly wasn't very encouraging.

I think now all we can do is stand back and just let things play out.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:05 AM
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4. The main US attempt at helping Iraq during their civil war
appears to be denying that there is a civil war. For whatever reason, the US authorities and some of their lackeys in the Iraqi Puppet Government seem to want to make believe that there is no civil war, even while hundreds of bodies are turning up every day from clashes and death squads. No civil war is double-plus good!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:08 AM
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6. Bush & Cheny have been planning this civil war from the start
Civil war in Iraq is just what they want. It keeps the Iraqis weak and keeps our boys there for the duration. The fringe benefits for companies like Halliburton are endless, and so are the benefits for war mongering Republicans.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:20 AM
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9. No it's not.
They wanted a stable puppet government. Full tilt civil war does not benefit them. Dangerous for Halliburton employees, oil doesn't get produced, etc. They've been making money to date, but that ends in the face of bloody civil war. the pressure to get out will only intensify. Losing the confidence of the American people doesn't advance their agenda. I wish, when people assert things like, "The fringe benefits for companies like Halliburton are endless, and so are the benefits for war mongering Republicans.", they'd elaborate. What are the endless fringe benefits?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:28 AM
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11. Fringe benefits are an endless supply of lucrative rebuilding contracts
for Bush and Cheney's friends. The more damage and destruction, the more contracts. The rich get richer while the poor kill each other.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:38 AM
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12. for pity's sake.
You can't produce oil in the midst of a bloody, widespread civil war. For one thing, oil production infrastructure is a primary target. Halliburton can't operate unless there are American troops there. The American people are increasingly in favor of leaving Iraq. Even if troops stay, there aren't enough of them to protect Halliburton's assets.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:40 AM
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13. What gives you the idea that Amercan troops are leaving?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:03 PM
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17. I'm not arguing that this is the case but one potential benefit
for them would be that this would inevitably draw Iran and Syria into the conflict, giving us a reason to invade them as well. Just playing devil's advocate.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:11 AM
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7. I think what Bush/Cheney have in mind to quell this civil war
would be the equivalent of pouring gasoline on a fire. They don't have a plan, they have never had a plan past the point of invasion. That's why things have gone from bad to worse, and I don't see things getting any better in the near future.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:15 AM
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8. Big FANS, blowing hard, the * regime needs civil war in Iraq
as they want here.

and send their collective asses off to the Hague
Time is a wast'en
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:22 AM
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10. reasoning please.
These confident statements without evidence or reasoning are just silly.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:43 AM
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15. "as they want here". Exactly
A divided country is a weaker one. Bush and Cheney know a little something when it comes to divisiveness and how it can play right into their hands.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:06 PM
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18. The same way they "helped" quell the civil war in Vietnam.
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