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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:24 AM
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*IF* there truly is a Civil War in Iraq, I wonder.....
I wonder if there is a plan for this....like pulling the troops out of the middle of the country and basically ringing the place to make sure no one gets out and, more importantly, no one gets in. This plan would probably include some sort of provision for the permanent bases (which may or may not exist depending on whether or not it has anything to do with funding requests) but then if they are overrun or destroyed SOMEONE would have to build them all over again from scratch.

Gee I wonder if anyone has mentioned anything like that? I wonder if any planning is being done with something like that in mind?

I wonder if any planning IS being done as it might appear to show weakness-not to the outside world but within the Pentagon.

Anyway back to the subject....yeah pull the troops out to the perimeter and use them to react to flare ups here and there...I wonder....... :think:
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:28 AM
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1. Better idea...................bring them home and let the Iraqis.....
figure it out.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:07 PM
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11. As much as I would like that
I still somehow feel a sense of obligation towards the millions if Iraqis that never asked for our "benevolence" in the first place and are thrust into the middle of this mess. They are the ones that are paying the price, not the insurgents, "terrarists" or "bad guys".

The whole place is a mess and will continue to spiral out of control. It reminds me of the scene in animal house where Kevin Bacon's character is trying to calm the crown and restore order but gets trampled anyway. Maybe we can hope someone in this government gets trampled and the people realize its time for a regime change here at home.

Should we stay or should we go? No easy answer when all things are considered
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:28 AM
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2. Did you say "planning" in relation to Iraq?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:25 PM
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10. Did you say "planning" in relation to Iraq? --> Count on it!! Civil war
will boost Bush's reasons for leaving the troops their to get picked off as the dweeb positions himself to begin the endorsments for the GOP come November.

Gonzalez is going to oversee the Abramoff trials/investigations - Rove lost no time playing top advisor...!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:33 AM
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3. Hey underpants.....
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 11:34 AM by MadMaddie
Great questions...

However, we would have to (assume-and that would make an ass of u and me)that this administration would actually do mitigation planning for an event.

They went into to Iraq and told us we would be greeted with flowers in the streets-they didn't think that we would get attacked

They had almost a two week notice that Katrina was going to be a Cat4-5 storm...they didn't mobilize the military or local authorities to go in and save the citizens in the Gulf...

They never thought that a civil war would breakout-even though the indicators showed that the Iraqi's were pissed about the prison abuse and the many innocent Iraqi's killed....

I don't think they are mentioning it to the King Boy because they are afraid of his temper tantrums.

I don't wonder anymore...they have no foresight in anything they do...our troops are in grave danger because these traitors to our country are lining their pockets with our Tax Payer money.

Good Wishful thinking though...:banghead:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:35 AM
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4. Actually
I meant Murtha

That was the actual PLAN that he proposed months ago. Not that the MSM ever discussed his plan or that he had one. Something tells me the brass knew this might be coming and might have been using Murtha to get that idea out.

Just a guess about that part but this is bascially (aside from the permanent base part) proposed.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:57 AM
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8. Oh...oops...my partner says I am a little slow sometimes...
Yup gotcha...I am slow this morning...

You are correct...Murtha is the lead for the military to get their ideas and plans out....



:hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:36 AM
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5. Another testimonial to add to Contradicta's impressive list of
accomplishments, don't you think?

Let's all remember who won the tug-of-war with rummy a couple of years or so ago, for the lofty position of "coordinator of post-war Iraq." Let's all remember who won that, okay? And all the hoo-hah in the press about how she prevailed for this big job - "condi scores again" ? Just more proof that if you want something to fuck up beyond all imaginings, make sure you put condi on it.

I love how everybody in the media is tiptoeing around "civil war." Um, yeah. Been looking that way, at least to me, for some time now. They're just now noticing?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:46 AM
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6. Wasn't containment what we were doing before the invasion?
With the world helping?

It seems that we end up where we were, after thousands dead and hundreds of billions spent.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:47 AM
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7. Nope, no planning... The Army is broken.
Would the last one out please turn out the lights.

Ciao!

:hi:
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 12:21 PM
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9. does this sound like a civil war?
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 12:29 PM by slaveplanet
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1716754,00.html

The Shia clerics most listened to by young militants swiftly blamed the occupation for the bombing. They included Moqtada al-Sadr; Nasrallah, leader of Hizbullah in Lebanon; Ayatollah Khalisi, leader of the Iraqi National Foundation Congress; and Grand Ayatollah Khamenei, Iran's spiritual leader. Along with Grand Ayatollah Sistani, they also declared it a grave "sin" to attack Sunnis - as did all the Sunni clerics about attacks on Shias. Sadr was reported by the BBC as calling for revenge on Sunnis - in fact, he said "no Sunni would do this" and called for revenge on the occupation.

None of the mostly spontaneous protest marches were directed at Sunni mosques. Near the bombed shrine itself, local Sunnis joined the city's minority Shias to denounce the occupation and accuse it of sharing responsibility for the outrage. In Kut, a march led by Sadr's Mahdi army burned US and Israeli flags. In Baghdad's Sadr City, the anti-occupation march was massive.
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