Every statewide elected Democrat in CT endorses Lieberman

[WI_DEM]

and all the ranking labor leaders in a Happy 64th Birthday, Joe gathering today. Sen. Dodd says that the Democratic ticket in Ct. will be "stronger" this fall with Joementum leading it.

He is really taking the Ned Lamont challenge seriously.

www.dailykos.com

[RubyDuby in GA]

1. Then it looks like it's time to replace all the elected Dems in CT

with new ones.

[skipos]

3. Yea, PURGE THEM ALL!!!

Get rid of all the DLCers like Clinton, Kerry and Gore. Get rid of Kucinich and Dean for supporting anti-flag burning legislation, get rid of Clark for campaigning for that DLCer Kaine, get rid of Feingold for supporting Roberts, etc etc etc.

:eyes:

[Yollam]

6. Lieberman is worse than a DLCer.

He's a shameless sycophant to Bush. If he were just a right-leaning DLCer like the others you mention, he'd have a lot more defenders. It's his behavior that's disgraceful. He doesn't even go through the pretense of being a democrat anymore.

[skipos]

11. I am no fan of Lieberman, and I think CT of all places should be able

to do better. However, who is a current republican who is all around more progressive than he is? I can't think of one.

I get tired of all the purge talk on DU, our #1 priority should be getting our majorities back. If we had that, a few conservative dems like the Nelsons or Lieberman or whoever aren't going to make a difference.

[Yollam]

14. I'm not calling for a purge.

But he ought to be called into Dean's office for a good smackdown if when he french-kisses Bush on the floor of congress. Whether he votes like a dem or not, he should at least kinda act like one. I get sick of hearing filth like Hannity and O'Lielly tell me "Now that Lieberman is all right. He's a democrat who knows what's what." Nothing could make me more certain that Lieberman is pondscum.

[skipos]

17. I agree. nt

[iconoclastNYC]

20. Of course you're not.

Don't fall for this "purge" bait. Frame your argument and ignore you enemies, don't repeat thier talking points even to negate them. Ignore them.

[iconoclastNYC]

19. Wrong answer.

Replace Liberman with a real democrat and give the voters a choice between a real democrat (Ned Lamont) and Republican who's brave enough to come out of the closet.

[IrateCitizen]

26. That's an easy question -- Lowell Weicker.

Lieberman is essentially a neocon when it comes to foreign policy. He hasn't followed the rest of the neocon crowd out of the Democratic Party for the Republicans because of his stances on environmental policy.

Lowell Weicker is a Republican who is considering an independent run against Lieberman who is more liberal than Joementum is.

[sui generis]

7. just Lieberman is fine with me.

not that I give a damn any more since it would appear that dusty red is the new blue in our party.

[MrBenchley]

22. None are pure enough to stand with me and thee!

And I have doubts about myself....(snicker)

[RubyDuby in GA]

33. Wow. Way to take my comment and completely run as far away from

its meaning as you possibly can.

I don't mean purge all Democrats. Get rid of the ones who kiss Bush's ass on a repeated basis. Is that so hard?

[skipos]

35. Replacing "all the elected Dems in CT with new ones" sounds like a purge

to me.

Sorry if I was wrong.
:hi:

[RubyDuby in GA]

36. No problem!

Upon further review, I was not clear. Mea culpa :blush:

[ThomCat]

2. What is doing so well in CT that they don't see what a

friggin sell-out and shill he is?

[Atman]

8. He isn't doing THAT well

The fact is he's our "Celebrity Senator." It's like rooting for a home team for many CT residents. Many of them don't even know or care what he stands for; but he's always on the teevee, by dingy, and he poses with the President and oh boy! That must mean he's on the pork truck bringin' it home for us nutmeggers. Phooey. When you consider what his numbers were and what they could be, I think it is fair to say he has taken a hit from Ned Lamont's candidacy. But unfortunately, Joe's a celebrity, and that is going to be all that matters for many voters here.

[Lexingtonian]

9. Uh, don't assume

that's it all real smiles and joy and agreement. It's also debts of obligation, threats, and a matter of hedging bets on the outcome.

[Yollam]

4. Which just shows what a totally different wavelength...

..."elected democrats" are on compared to rank-and-file democrat voters. Lieberman is a disgrace. It's one thing to be an Israel-coddling war-hawk with right-leaning views. I could actually almost live with that. But his unbelievable sycophancy to the most corrupt, traitorous and incompetent president in history is unforgivable. Joementum can sit and spin as far as I'm concerned.

[skipos]

12. If Joementum is overwhelmingly re-elected (as currently predicted) will

that show "what a different wavelength elected democrats are" with "rank and file democrat voters?"

[Yollam]

13. Maybe it will show the difference between rich, complacent CT voters...

...and working democrats in the rest of the country.

[skipos]

16. You mean democrats in Alabama, Mississippi and other

states that almost always vote republicans?

[Yollam]

21. Lieberman, Republicans - not much difference.

And I'm sure that there are an awful lot of dems on those states who would love to vote for someone more progressive than Holy Joe. Those states have huge Republican majorities now, so it just ain't happening.

[onenote]

24. you've got to be kidding

I'm not a big fan of Joe and if I was in CT, I might well support a primary opponent (I don't know enough about Lamont to make that call at this point). But the most progressive repub out there is well to the right of Joe when it comes to the environmet, women's rights, minimum wage, and a host of other issues.

onenote

[MrBenchley]

23. Or else it shows how far out of touch

internet "progressive purists" are with mainstream Democrats.... (snicker)

[IrateCitizen]

27. Or maybe it's an example of both....

Lieberman is one instance in which the more rabid progressives here might have a serious point. He's essentially a neocon when it comes to foreign policy, which puts him staunchly at odds with the majority of Democrats in the country. And I'm not using the neocon label for effect here -- everything about his foreign policy falls in line with the general neoconservative view.

Of course, there are also many instances in which people here go overboard with their demands of "purity" from elected officials. But I don't think that dislike of Joe Lieberman's performance is one of them.

[MrBenchley]

28. Bear in mind, though...

that Connecticut is a state where extremism doesn't play well and bipartisan efforts do. It's also a state with an awful lot of defense industries; in fact, one of the state's nicknames is "The Arsenal of Democracy".

And the war aside, Lieberman is a genuinely liberal Senator whose stance on just about every issue resonate with the majority of voters in Connecticut. The last poll I saw showed that 70% of the state's voters planned to vote for Joe; Connecticut Democrats would have to be suicidal to want to upset the top of their ticket just to please a bunch of online screechers....especially since they're struggling to replace a popular GOP governor.

[IrateCitizen]

29. Lieberman is decidedly NOT liberal...

Please tell me that you honestly do not believe that Joe Lieberman is liberal. If that is the truth, then it shows how far the definition of "liberal" has slipped.

Lieberman is a centrist. He is fairly liberal on social issues, but is conservative/corporatist on economic issues. This is the same Joe Lieberman who moved to block corporate accounting reforms prior to the Enron scandal -- reforms that would not have allowed Enron to cook the books in the way they did.

A liberal, OTOH, is someone who shares the belief in capitalism as an economic system with conservatives and centrists, but seeks significant regulation and redistribution of wealth to soften its excesses. A radical would be someone who does not accept the premise that capitalism is the best economic system out there.

When you portray someone like Joe Lieberman as a "liberal", you're being as disingenous as those who say he's a "conservative".

CT voters like him because he brings home the bacon. The question I'd like to ask is, aside from challenges along his left flank, why is Lowell Wiecker considering running against him as an independent if he's doing things that are so great for CT?

[MrBenchley]

30. Bullshit....

He's liberal on damn near every issue except the war.

"This is the same Joe Lieberman who moved to block corporate accounting reforms prior to the Enron scandal "
Bullshit.

"CT voters like him because he brings home the bacon. The question I'd like to ask is, aside from challenges along his left flank, why is Lowell Wiecker considering running against him as an independent if he's doing things that are so great for CT?"
Weicker stuck his toe in the water and ran away, child. He's not IN the race, for good reasons. Weicker was 41 points behind in the polls....

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=875

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. You're misquoting that poll again! 75% REPUBLICANS want Lieberman

reelected...NOT Democrats and NOT CT. Voters, as you state. The poll says:

Republicans say give Democrat Lieberman another term 75 - 18 percent, while Democrats favor his reelection 59 - 29 percent and independent voters back him 61 - 24 percent, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds. <snip>


14. Looking ahead to the 2006 election for United States Senator, do you feel that Joseph Lieberman deserves to be reelected, or do you feel that he does not deserve to be reelected?



Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom

Yes/Deserves reelection 64% 75% 59% 61% 65% 62%
No/Does not 24 18 29 24 25 22
DK/NA 13 7 12 15 10 15

Lib Mod Cons

Yes/Deserves reelection 53% 67% 71%
No/Does not 33 21 21
DK/NA 14 12 9


http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=863

Now THAT is DISGUSTING! When MORE REPUKES like you than Democrats...members of your OWN PARTY, something is SERIOUSLY wrong! Lieberman needs to go!


On edit...for SOME reason the "Dem", "REPUKE", "IND:, ect... categories don't show up in the copy/paste. I highlighted the REPUKE votes. Lieberman is adored by repukes. You can see the poll at the link. It's sickening.

[MrBenchley]

34. Bullshit....

"U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman gets a 63 - 25 percent approval, unchanged from January 11. By a 63 - 26 percent margin, including 69 percent of Republicans, Connecticut voters say Sen. Lieberman deserves to be reelected.

Lieberman would defeat former Gov. Lowell Weicker 62 - 21 percent.

In a possible Democratic primary, the incumbent beats businessman Ned Lamont 68 - 13 percent. "

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=875

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[in_cog_ni_to]

32. The REPUBLICANS in Connecticut. LOVE Lieberman.

THAT alone says it ALL, IMCPO. He needs to get the hell out of the Democratic party.

[Burried News]

15. Looks like retaining the Sub Base at Groton has given you considerable

political capital. But is it enough Joe? Is it enough?

And Joe - what's your opinion of Progress in Iraq? We can't hear you Joe? Joe are you there?

[iconoclastNYC]

18. Machine politics in action.

The republican machine just had a big pep rally for thier indicted former house leader.

The political machine support is good for show but it's the primary voters who matter.

[Coexist]

25. If you read the diary - this shows how DESPERATE Joe is

<snip>
By lining up early endorsements from Democratic leaders and organized labor, Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman signaled Thursday he is taking seriously the anti-war candidacy of Ned Lamont.

<snip>
Update: Lieberman joked in the story that he wasn't taking attendance, but reporters could forward him a list if they had it. Here's someone who wasn't present -- John Olsen, head of the Connecticut AFL-CIO.

[PassingFair]

37. Send Ned some love.

And send a MESSAGE to the DLC. Money is the only thing they understand.

NO MORE TRAITORS.

NO MORE BUSH KISSERS.

http://nedlamont.com/contribute.html