How do we purge PNAC from the nation? Who are they?

[Skidmore]

Sure we know the designated front men for them? The signators to the letter to Clinton are front and center. But it takes more than these men to implement a program of this nature worldwide. Who else is complicit in this great crime against humanity?

[Critters2]

1. Everybody who voted for *

for starters.:argh:

[bryant69]

14. Maybe we could round them all up

Put those detention centers Bush is building to good use.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[FiveGoodMen]

18. And how long do we keep them before they spoil

and we have to throw them in the trash?

[atreides1]

2. The Current Administration

That's who!!!!

[wtbymark]

3. PNAC members are the real terrorists n/t

[yurbud]

4. Joe Wilson said in an interview there are about 50 in government

[madokie]

9. I say we go after those 50, I also think Joe Wilson can be trusted

[Skidmore]

11. Who are they?

We know about Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ledeen, Woolsey, and the rest of the signators, but who are the others?

[yurbud]

20. not sure how that would be done.

[Junkdrawer]

5. PNAC is a think tank. The "men behind the curtain" are just that...

hidden from view. One hint: Follow the money - who are the wealthiest families on the planet and what are their goals; their fears.

[Bushwick Bill]

6. It is a joke.

That you can't get one mention of it on 60 Minutes or a similar show. All due to bought and paid for brainwashed corporate controlled media.

[LibDemAlways]

10. I have a friend who works for a production

company that develops programming for the history channel. I told him what I know about PNAC and suggested he would be performing a valuable public service if he could get a documentary made and on the air explaining what it is and its history. He not only "wouldn't go there" he was so paranoid he expressly told me not to send him a link to the PNAC site. He was sure he'd be fired.

[valerief]

7. The sorry-ass soldiers who swallow their line of bull

via the neocon pulpit and Shill News on TV and who kill for their lies. Oh, yeah, and the neocon pulpit and Shill News.

BTW, my heart goes out to those poor soldiers.

[kevinmc]

8. Here is the letter .and their Signatures......

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

[Coastie for Truth]

12. The signers are basically the PNACers

who go around and through the "Government-Academic" Revolving Doors. Who are the "Daddy Warbucks" guys funding this bull?

[iconoclastNYC]

21. Carlye Group/Military Contractors, etc.

[mymomwasright]

13. It still pisses me off that they were not made an issue

everytime a FREEP on TV claimed the war wasn't pre-planned. Kerry coulda really put them front and center if he'd wanted too. Has anyone ever asked the chimp or VP about PNAC on national TV? Gutless reporters!

[gizmo1979]

15. There is a list I

think if you search PNAC the site comes up and lists all the members.I've seen it because Sweeny from the AFL-CIO is on it.

[Cleita]

16. I think they were given birth by The Heritage Foundation.

http://www.heritage.org/

[Emit]

17. Here are some

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:iS3IRIMiGPsJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-conservatives+neoconservatives+list&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

[Disturbed]

19. GEORGE W. BUSH- Top Contributors

GEORGE W. BUSH (R)
Top Contributors


http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/contrib.asp?ID=N00008072

This is an interesting site.

[radio4progressives]

22. Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neo-cons, and Iraq

Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neo-cons, and Iraq

Are the ideas of the conservative political philosopher Leo Strauss a shaping influence on the Bush administration’s world outlook? Danny Postel interviews Shadia Drury – a leading scholarly critic of Strauss – and asks her about the connection between Plato’s dialogues, secrets and lies, and the United States-led war in Iraq.

By Danny Postel

10/18/03: (openDemocracy) What was initially an anti-war argument is now a matter of public record. It is widely recognised that the Bush administration was not honest about the reasons it gave for invading Iraq.
Paul Wolfowitz, the influential United States deputy secretary of defense, has acknowledged that the evidence used to justify the war was “murky” and now says that weapons of mass destruction weren’t the crucial issue anyway (see the book by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber, Weapons of Mass Deception: the uses of propaganda in Bush’s war on Iraq (2003.)

By contrast, Shadia Drury, professor of political theory at the University of Regina in Saskatchewan, argues that the use of deception and manipulation in current US policy flow directly from the doctrines of the political philosopher Leo Strauss (1899-1973). His disciples include Paul Wolfowitz and other neo-conservatives who have driven much of the political agenda of the Bush administration.


(snip)


Who is Leo Strauss?

Leo Strauss was born in 1899 in the region of Hessen, Germany, the son of a Jewish small businessman. He went to secondary school in Marburg and served as an interpreter in the German army in the first world war. He was awarded a doctorate at Hamburg University in 1921 for a thesis on philosophy that was supervised by Ernst Cassirer.

Strauss’s post-doctoral work involved study of Edmund Husserl and Martin Heidegger, and in 1930 he published his first book, on Spinoza’s critique of religion; his second, on the 12th century Jewish philosopher Maimonides, was published in 1935. After a research period in London, he published The Political Philosophy of Thomas Hobbes in 1936.

In 1937, he moved to Columbia University, and from 1938 to 1948 taught political science and philosophy at the New School for Social Research, New York. During this period he wrote On Tyranny (1948) and Persecution and the Art of Writing (1952).

In 1949, he became professor of political philosophy at the University of Chicago, and remained there for twenty years. His works of this period include Natural Right and History (1953), Thoughts on Machiavelli (1958), What is Political Philosophy? (1959), The City and Man (1964), Socrates and Aristophanes (1966), and Liberalism Ancient and Modern (1968).

Between 1968 and 1973, Strauss taught in colleges in California and Maryland, and completed work on Xenophon’s Socratic discourses and Argument and Action of Plato’s Laws (1975). After his death in October 1973, the essay collection Studies in Platonic Political Philosophy (1983) was published.

(snip)

cont...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm

[The2ndWheel]

23. PNAC isn't the problem

I'm a PNAC guy. When I first read about them in the late winter/early spring of 2002, my jaw dropped. Then I looked up what I had read, because there was no way it could be real. Sure enough, their own website, all for there to see(and I'd guess it's still only a few million in this country that know about it).

But if it wasn't PNAC, it would be someone else. PNAC is about American hegemony. This country is only this country because of American hegemony. From day one we've been expanding, first just eradicating the people who were here already, then we jumped the oceans.

PNAC is a symptom of the actual problem. The problem is organization, centralization, civilization. If we're not ready to change that, "purging" PNAC will do nothing. Power would just wait a few years, then pop up again. I think we have 6000 years of history to prove that.