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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 06:41 AM
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A War on Terrorism is Impossible to Win...
You can't win a war against an "ism".

It's like trying to stomp out a burning bag of shit on your front porch.

You end up with the sticky shit setting your shoes on fire.



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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 06:44 AM
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1. More like you can't win a war against . . .
. . . an asymmetrical military tactic.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 06:50 AM
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3. I Get it...
...the "Unknown unknowns."


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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:29 AM
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8. There is no "war on terrorism"
Because terrorism is a form of asymmetrical warfare, not an "enemy." Certain groups (PIJ, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Red Brigades, IRA and so on) use attacks against civilians to fight back because they can't possibly stand up to their opponent's military force. When Bush parrots the euphemism "war on terrorism" he really means war on any nonstate actors who don't support America's policies around the world.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:43 AM
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9. He States a Whole Lot More Than That!!!...
Edited on Sat Feb-25-06 07:44 AM by Peter Frank
He states that "As long as we're fighiting the global war against an intractable "ism" -- war powers are granted to the presidency."

Also, at the end of the day -- He cares only about his financial base & mocks his political base by increasing the downward trend of their earning power (to the advantage of his "entrepreneurs").


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:53 AM
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10. That simple
"When Bush parrots the euphemism "war on terrorism" he really means war on any nonstate actors who don't support America's policies around the world."

What makes it worse is that they do not control the propaganda. The world has seen through the bullspit. Large sections of the planet's people understand imperialism now in a way that they did not when the Brits used the same tactics. Technological advancements created to control the brainwashing are now being used to expose them. Fugg Bushco.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 10:04 AM
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17. Well stated but,
do you think any living politician today would ever name the truth behind wars? Why we fight them? What our governments true goals for engaing and bogging us down in an area of the world that has been conquered N+1 times since 5000BC?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:03 PM
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20. Of course not
But they should. It is obvious to anyone who thinks - oil and contracts.

But most Americans would have to question how they live too. No time for national self-appraisal I'm afraid - Jimmy Carter tried that and look what happened to him.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 06:49 AM
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2. Impossible to win...
...when excuses or 'understanding' for it abounds.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 06:58 AM
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4. Hey, unlike the WMD's we now know WHERE the war is
"It's to the north and east, and to the south somewhat..."

I'm guessing that this is now "Mission: Accomplished!"

:sarcasm:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:04 AM
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7. .
:crazy:
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:00 AM
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5. Excuses are fickle...
...when they finally know they are betrayed.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:04 AM
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6. Fickle, yes.
And, just as undefinable.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 08:29 AM
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11. It's like a war on the mafia.
You can't just drop bombs on them. I remember this thought going through my mind when the invasion started.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 08:35 AM
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12. Great example TNDemo...
Also remember that Christianity was spread throughout the world by persecution.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:09 AM
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13. No one yet, in the history of the world ...
has ever won a war against ...

a NOUN!



-Laelth
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 04:13 PM
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22. Succinctly said... n/t
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:13 AM
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14. Similar in respects to the failed war on drugs....
untold thousands killed, no "official" state per se, a rage against an ideology, etc....

These wars of ideology are impossible to "win" in the classical sense.

MZr7

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Bammo Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:49 AM
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15. There It Is - For Sure
Agree with ya' Pete all the way!

A war on an "ism" is a way for Neocon SOB'S to put money in their free-kin accounts usuing American Military for cannon fodder.

And the free-kin thing that breaks my beans is the sheople of this damn country buy this BS !

They buy right into the NeoCon scheme of things by displayin' those dumb free-kin made in China, Yellow Fad-Azz Magnetic Ribbons like this makes these sheople instant patriots!

The SHRUB is not all that dumb if he can get the sheople of the U.S. of A. to follow his propaganda fad to promote the war on "ism".

When the hell is this country going to wake the hell up and smell the free-kin java thats brewin' by the Neocons?

I sure as hell - hope soon and act on it like its a free-kin disease - which it sure the hell is!

Hang Tough~ (Blood and Death for the letters "ism" - are the American Sheople really this naive, or just plain stupid? )
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 11:38 AM
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18. Hi Bammo!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 04:19 PM
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23. Welcome Bammo...
:hi:

Get off the fence & speak your mind. ;)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:57 AM
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16. "Terrorism" is a convenient term for the bosses to scare the populace.
The Bogeyman is gonna getcha' unless you trust us to save you.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H.L. Mencken
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 12:54 PM
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19. Oh but isn't it a wonderful tool to perpetuate endless destruction and
chaos.

Until all normal, healthy American individuals say no to these bullies who are making money off of peoples suffering, the bullshit War on Terror will continue. And more suffering will happen, and more justifiable hatred and rage will be sewn for more pain and suffering in the future for everyone.

It's call cause and effect.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:22 PM
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21. That's his point
He claims to have unlimited war powers until the war on terra is over. What Americans can't get through their thick skulls is that a war on an idea like terrorism can NEVER be won, so Bush has essentially given himself eternal King powers. It's like what Palpatine did with the Clone Wars, he kept a devastating war going and going so he would have perpetual emergency powers, and we all know where that led...
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