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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:01 PM
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DU has let this question die today, even though it is “impordant”
This place is killing me today, all of the threads are talking about associates of Abramoff and who is going to get indicted, No surprise there,

But there is one thing that I have missed or has been absent in my readings and that is:

How many more Lobbyists are gonna go down, and who are they gonna take with them? After all, I keep hearing how "K Street" is the 4th arm of the Government, so if Abramoff is laying "Golden Eggs" heard on NPR won't these eggs lead to more Lobbyists squealing like little pigs. Won't these pigs lead to more pigs, more than the "possible public figures" that we know about?

Two things I know about pigs is they wallow in their own shit and more importantly in this context is that they always get slaughtered.

But how many more pigs are out their to wallow and to get slaughtered?


look at it from this angle, Abramoff was one of the most connected persons on Capitol Hill, right? Well that means not only is he connected to public officials he is also very connected and very KNOWLEDGEABLE of what else goes on with K street. HE IS AN EXPERT IN HIS FIELD....

We know Abramoff is gonna sing and get "Public Officials" indicted, but the question that needs to be asked is how many more of his "K Street" Colleagues were involved in his dealings and what else does he know about that whole 4th arm of the government.

Think about it for him to act completely on his own with no one else knowing what he was up to is crazy, in fact I am betting that he has direct information on other Lobbyists and how they got "Business" done on K street, more than just "normal dealings in DC" that you alluded to in the above post.

This question is slipping under the RADAR even though this could be the tip of the ice-berg.

Please tell me that I am not the only one to question this, and if I am why is this not being looked into more?

BTW when everyone finally gets it down the road and we start to read about more and more K Street lobbyists I will pull out more bookmarks on this and ask - WHY DIDN'T DU pursue this sooner??????
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:03 PM
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1. I agree
but please correct the spelling in your header

Thanks. :)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:04 PM
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2. Hmmm....
in quotations... i wonder who says it like that;)
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:05 PM
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3. Yeah, who spells like that? Seriesly!!!!11!!!!111
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:06 PM
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4.  Who? Bush?
You've got to be kidding me.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:09 PM
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5. No, Scott McClellan, WH spokesman. Every daily briefing he says
'impordant"

Drives us crazy...!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:11 PM
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7. LOL! I didn't know that.
Will have to listen for that next time. :)
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 05:10 PM
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6. You are confused
DU is not a person.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:44 PM
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8. your right, DU is an organism with an evolved/higher conscious
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:36 PM
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9. Hey man. You are talking about the feeding trough!
I mean, that would probably take down most of Washington except John Conyers, Dennis Kucinich and Sheila Jackson Lee. What are you trying to do? Spoil the party?
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:09 PM
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10. That would be a start - after all this is the 4th arm of the government
we're talking about here. Let's clean house
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 11:20 PM
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14. I wish I could believe that it will happen. Too many vested interests.
Too much hush money.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:15 PM
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11. K&R. . . . .n/t
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:20 PM
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12. let's up the ante ...
it's not just "lobbyists" who should be taken down, it's LOBBYING ...

that should be the ultimate target from the Abramoff abuses ...
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:59 PM
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13. I'd be asking this question to Mr. Norquist
snip:

The two men's paths have intersected frequently since their days as young Republicans, organizing Massachusetts campuses for Ronald Reagan in 1980; Mr. Norquist was at Harvard, Mr. Abramoff at Brandeis.

The next year, Mr. Norquist managed Mr. Abramoff's successful campaign to become chairman of College Republicans, a national campus organization; the two men left amid complaints of financial mismanagement. Similar criticism followed them to Citizens for America, a conservative group that shut down soon after they left.

They seemed an odd pair, Mr. Norquist as rumpled as Mr. Abramoff is hand-tailored. But they shared a fierce ambition: when they talked about Democrats, they tended to use fiery language and were unapologetic about being strongly partisan.

Mr. Norquist went on to be president of Americans for Tax Reform, founded in 1985 to mobilize support for tax cuts, and he and the group became prominent in the conservative movement. From the group's offices near K Street, Mr. Norquist runs the Wednesday meetings, which started as strategy sessions to defeat the Clinton health care plan in 1993, then evolved to try to develop grass-roots support for every item on the Republican agenda. http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37/11309

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This nondescript room in an L Street office building is the incubator for Bush's political strategy, one that puts his conservative base first and foremost. That strategy has succeeded in winning a tax cut much bigger than experts once thought possible, but it also helped tip control of the Senate to the Democrats by pushing moderate Sen. Jim Jeffords from the GOP fold.

And it has put Norquist, 44, at the center of action. Short and owlish, a master networker and ebullient believer in the therapeutic value of cutting taxes, Norquist launched the Wednesday Meeting eight years ago to wage guerrilla warfare against the Clinton administration.

Marshall Wittmann, now with the conservative Hudson Institute, recalls attending the first meeting as legislative director of the Christian Coalition. "We were sort of like the Mensheviks after the Russian Revolution, meeting in Paris cafes," he says.

These days, with Bush in the White House, Norquist just may be the most influential Washingtonian most people have never heard of.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2001-06-01-grover.htm
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:23 PM
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15. There needs to be open season on lobbyists;
IMHO
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