Will the United States be charged with war crimes?

[Onlooker]

This war, whether the result of lies by the Bush administration or inept intelligence gathering by the Bush administraiton, is on the verge of becoming a crime of international proportion. If we don't get control of what's going on in Iraq, I think there will be calls to try the United States for war crimes. This is terribly alarming. What do we do? Stay put and pray? Send in more troops? Leave and accept the consequences? Leave and rationalize?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060225/ts_nm/iraq_dc

Iraq's defense minister warned on Saturday of the risk of a "civil war" that "will never end" as sectarian violence flared again despite a second day of curfew in Baghdad.

[wake.up.america]

1. George W. Bush should have been brought to trial upon invading Iraq...

This would not have happened had he not invaded.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

2. If they're not, then that will mean that

the world will have caved in to them. They will have won after all.

[Itchinjim]

3. The US won't be,

but I sure as hell hope Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al are.

[Burma Jones]

4. Of Course Not

Who the hell is going to come over here and "arrest" anyone? Who? The Chinese? Hell no.

Not that I don't think we're guilty, but you don't fuck around with the place you have your money, and the world still has more money here than anywhere else.

[The2ndWheel]

5. By who?

1) US
2) UN
3) Everyone else

No wonder people seem to go crazy around here at the smallest thing. A question can actually be asked about war crimes and the US/Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc. It's cute.

Impeachment!

War criminal!

He broke the law!

False intelligence!

Hold them accountable!

Call your congressman who works for you!

Time to take back our country!

We seem to have a nice way of thinking about the world. Throw a little fairness in there, some rules and regulations, maybe even a petition or two. Set up a march here and there actually thinking it will do something.

Yeah, they'll all die with more power than anyone has ever had on the planet. Then they'll be honored in Washington DC. Then the next crop of leaders will come up with some even better ways to murder and make it rich.

[madrchsod]

6. no

[neweurope]

7. No. By whom? The military-industrialcomplex rules the world, not

just the USA. The Hague will never see Americans, the USA has made certain of that. I'm still demanding it, though...

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[madokie]

8. I personally believe the perpertraters of this war will be hunted down

as the nazi's were after ww11. We weren't the only ones hunting down the nazi's as it won't take us to bring these people to justice. The united states no, but the War Criminals, YES

[Mika]

9. Many of the Nazis were harbored and employed by the US

They weren't hunted down. They were given good jobs at building the US evil empire.

[madokie]

11. I believe the reason that fact is known is like I said they will be hunted

Name me one who has lived here and been found out before his death that was not tried as a criminal. I disagree with you, now change my mind with facts.

[Mika]

15. Werhner Von Braun & the Nazi rocket scientists brought to the US.

The Brits weren't too pleased to have the developer and deployer of WWII V1 and V2 rockets that hit England and killed many testing the same rockets in the US. They wanted him tried in Nuremburg. He was defended by the US.


http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/Giants/vonBraun/vonbraun_4.html


Dr. Von Braun and his fellow German rocket experts
before moving from Fort Bliss, Texas, to Huntsville,
Alabama. (Photograph courtesy Marshall Space Flight Center)



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There's some reading on Operation Paperclip to do.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

Operation Paperclip was the codename under which the US intelligence and military services extricated scientists from Germany, during and after the final stages of World War II. The project was originally called Operation Overcast, and is sometimes also known as Project Paperclip. <1>

Of particular interest were scientists specialising in aerodynamics and rocketry (such as those involved in the V-1 and V-2 projects), chemical weapons, chemical reaction technology and medicine. These scientists and their families were secretly brought to the United States, without State Department review and approval; their service for Hitler's Third Reich, NSDAP and SS memberships as well as the classification of many as war criminals or security threats also disqualified them from officially obtaining visas. An aim of the operation was capturing equipment before the Soviets came in. The US Army destroyed some of the German equipment to prevent it from being captured by the advancing Soviet Army.

The majority of the scientists, numbering almost 500, were deployed at White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico, Fort Bliss, Texas and Huntsville, Alabama to work on guided missile and ballistic missile technology. This in turn led to the foundation of NASA and the US ICBM program.

Much of the information surrounding Operation Paperclip is still classified.

[mrfrapp]

17. Von Braun

"Name me one who has lived here and been found out before his death that was not tried as a criminal."

There are many but because of his involvement in the US space program, by far the most famous is Wernher Von Braun. Von Braun is, or was considered a war criminal in Europe because of the role he played in the design and implementation of the V2 rocket that caused considerable destruction and loss of life, particularly in the UK. He later went on to design the incredibly successful Saturn V rocket for the United States.

This Salon article on Operation Paperclip is a good introduction to the topic.

[madokie]

22. I stand corrected, thanks

but was he a willing participant of the nazi's

[Greyhound]

10. The names of the criminals to be charged with war crimes,

crimes against humanity, and whatever you call the charge of conducting an illegal coup.
Elliott Abrams
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett
Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula Dobriansky
Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg
Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan
Zalmay Khalilzad
I. Lewis Libby
Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle
Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen
Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld
Vin Weber
George Weigel
Paul Wolfowitz

Just FYI.

[madokie]

13. did you forget gw

[Greyhound]

19. I thought of it as a given, but he should be on the list.

Forgot Mellon-Scaif too. :shrug:

[madokie]

21. I was just hoping I wasn't out of the loop, thanks

[Greyhound]

25. This also serves as an approved list of hazardous materials to

be disposed of properly. :rofl:

[ReaderSushi]

12. Agree with all of the above.

The problem has always who would or could bell this cat.

This is why the rest of the world has made it their geostrategic objective to create an international multipolarity. The unipolar moment has come and gone, Bill Clinton tried to make it last via beneficial international institutions but George Bush certainly to a hammer to that dream didn't he?

[Kansas Wyatt]

14. Now you understand the Democratic politician's reluctance

To have called a spade, a spade the last few years. Not only has BushCo dragged all of us into their militaristic conquest, they have exposed our institutional government and global position to unprecedented consequences that would greatly harm all Americans and their government for years to come.

What would the USA do if the world decided that the USA was an illegal rogue nation terrorizing countries for their profit and exploitation? What jeopardy of foreign intervention would the U.S. Government be under, if the truth were told? How will Americans react to U.S. officials and elected representatives being hauled off to stand trial for war crimes?

[AndyTiedye]

16. They Certainly Could/Should Try BushCheneyRumsfeldRove for War Crimes

Bush, Cheney, and many members of his regime SHOULD be tried for war crimes.
Not sure what putting "America on trial" means.

If we impeach them or vote them out of office, we can, and should send them to the Hague.
There will be much rejoicing all over the world, and America can begin to restore our
standing in the world community.

If they remain in power the rest of the world will turn on us and destroy us.
We won't get "tried", we'll just get nuked.
Then when they extricate our "leaders" from their nuclear-bomb-proof bunkers,
they will be put on trial in the Hague.

[Swamp Rat]

18. In order for this country to survive and recover, we MUST impeach then try

The, perhaps, the rest of the world will forgive us. Otherwise we are doomed to a horrible end.

[Terran1212]

20. They should be for Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, secret camps

They've killed so many noncombatants and committed outright aggression and tortured people.

Are there any warcrimes they haven't committed?

[trixie]

23. I believe so, yes

[Senator]

24. To redeem Our National Soul, we must "surrender ourselves" for

int'l judgement and justice.

That means impeaching and charging all perpetrators here, trying and levying punishment, THEN binding them over to int'l authority.

It is our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

Real Americans do not aid and abet war criminals.

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[OneBlueSky]

26. on the verge??? . . . it's been a crime of international proportions . . .

since Day One . . . the legitimate charges that could be leveled against the U.S. is at least as long as my arm . . .