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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:12 PM
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Do you want George Bush in charge if bird flu goes pandemic?
Given Bush's incompetence to act in any capacity to avert disaster, except to say afterward "I didn't know about it until yesterday", I shudder to think what Americans will go through if bird flu goes pandemic and it's bad.

IMO, we'll have the same experience as any other 3rd world country. Lots of dead people, and we're on our own in trying to respond.

"GENEVA - For years after its appearance in 1997 in Hong Kong, the current bird flu virus seemed corralled in a few east Asian countries. But in the past four months, it has spread across Europe and into Africa, bringing to 31 the number of countries with sick birds.

People have caught it in a quarter of those, and just six people outside east Asia have died. The virus is still not easily caught by humans.

Even so, its sudden sweep across continents on the wings of birds has stunned public health officials. And most say they cannot predict where or when this disturbing germ might mutate into a form that could unleash a deadly flu epidemic.

"Anywhere the virus lands," said Dr. Mike Perdue of the global influenza program for the World Health Organization."

Yahoo link

It will be here soon. Bush has put Chertoff in charge of the bird flu response. IMO, that basically means cities would be sealed off by the military and the people within would be left to die - the same strategy used after Katrina. Could this have been a test case to guage public reaction to a panic situation the government fails to respond to?

Given the possibility that a pandemic could be far more widespread than the Katrina disaster, I shudder to think of what the Bush response would be. Bomb infected towns to contain the threat? Go down into the bunker to wait it out? One thing I am certain of - Bush won't be among the unlucky Americans who don't get a vaccine. Nor, I'm sure, will his cronies. If I've learned anything from the madman at the top, it's that he takes care of himself and his cronies no matter what the cost to our country.

Added to Bush's general, overall incompetence in responding to crises, there's his penchant for absolute power. I have no doubt Bush would use the distruption of a pandemic to declare martial law, and declare himself permanent despot in chief. I shudder to think of what draconian executive orders would issue from his office. His reaction could be far worse than the pandemic itself.

Current death rates for bird flu infection are 50%. How much worse would they be if Bush sits on his hands and does nothing, which he SO likes to do? Personally, I hope a pandemic holds off until Bush is out of power. American lives depend on it.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:15 PM
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1. I don't want him in charge next cold season...
'nuff said.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:16 PM
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2. I want that bird-brain to ....
catch the bird flu first. Then we might see an adequate response.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:16 PM
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3. We can only hope that the mutations that make it transmissible
between humans will be delayed until Democrats are back in charge
and have time to rebuild our broken government.

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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:17 PM
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4. Yep,as long as he is the one who gives direct care to Patient
Number One !

Do you get my drift?

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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:18 PM
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5. Kiss your butt goodby
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:22 PM
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7. You mean, as in "genetic drift"?
;-)

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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:21 PM
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6. No way--and the last one of that
bunch I want to see if there is a pandemic is Ch*rtoff.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:26 PM
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8. "The bird flew?" Does he know the diff flu vs flew?
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:32 PM
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9. HELL NO!!!!! Why?? Look at LA, MS,........
Edited on Sat Feb-25-06 02:33 PM by Minnesota Libra
.....they are still waiting just for a temporary roof over their heads. The bird flu with Busgco in the WH would indeed be hell on earth.:hide:

edited: to change from MI to MS
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:33 PM
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10. I don't want him in front of the line at the urinal.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:36 PM
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11. Yes, indeed
I want to see him take a hands-on approach. He, Rummy, Cheney and Rice can be in charge of dispatching with all the birds in the country. That will keep them busy for a while, and they might find it satisfying work. I suggest shotguns.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 02:36 PM
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12. There are studies that show the
cathecins in green tea and a quercetin in red wine may be effective deterrents to both anthrax an hsn1


Interpretive Summary: As part of an effort designed to develop antimicrobial food formulations that will protect both the food and the consumer against pathogenic bacteria and viruses, we evaluated the bactericidal activities of eleven of polyphenolic catechins present in green teas and of four green tea extracts against the foodborne pathogen Bacillus cereus reported to contaminate baked goods, carrots, meat, milk products, rice, sauces, soups, sprouts, and zucchini. The results show that three of the catechins exhibited exceptional bactericidal activities at very low levels in the nanomolar range. They were more active than medicinal antibiotics such as tetracycline and vancomycin. Future studies should define their antimicrobial effectiveness in foods and feeds and as disinfectants of surfaces of non-food items such as cutting boards.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?SEQ_NO_115=169867

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bsc/ajc/2000/00000009/00000004/art00162

Just something to keep in mind if...
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