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Shelor Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:09 AM
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Massive rise in child porn sites
The Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), the independent watchdog that polices Britain's internet companies, will next month unveil its annual report which shows a dramatic increase in complaints by the public about child pornography in 2005. 'Last year's figures represent a record,' said Peter Robbins, the IWF's chief executive. 'They had gone down in 2004 and we thought we might have got a handle on it. But unfortunately in 2005 they shot up again. The number of sites we found that have got images on them has almost doubled.'

Last year the IWF investigated more than 24,000 tip-offs to its hotline from members of the public concerned about child pornography, a 40 per cent increase on the previous year's figure of 17,000. The foundation subsequently took action barring UK internet users from accessing more than 6,000 sites where it had discovered child pornography, compared with 3,438 sites the previous year, an increase of 75 per cent.

Less than 1 per cent of the sites were located in the UK, highlighting the success of the police and the IWF in countering domestically generated child pornography. But the fact that more than 99 per cent of the illegal images come from overseas raises questions about the ability of the UK authorities to extinguish the problem. 'These concerns are to be expected,' said John Carr, internet consultant with the children's charity NCH. 'As there has been a rise in internet connectivity, so more people have the opportunity.'

Around 40 per cent of child pornography accessed in the UK comes from the US. A further 28 per cent comes from Russia where, although the production of child pornography is increasing rapidly, the authorities seem reluctant to act. 'There is no liaison with Russia to tackle these sites, so they stay up almost ad infinitum,' Robbins said.



http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1718252,00.html
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:10 AM
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1. This is where we need...
a "War On..." .
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:27 AM
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2. "Around 40 % of child pornography accessed in the UK comes from the US"
What's Bush** doing about this appalling statistic? Anything of substance, like the UK?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:30 AM
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3. junior doesn't care about old people so why should he care about
children?
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:32 AM
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4. He & the inJustice Department are trying...
to ressurect COPA (Children's Online Protection Act) to make sure that kids can't get to porn sites. I think they believe that kiddie porn is porn for kiddies! :crazy:


But seriously, as far as I know, they are far more focused on legal adult activities that harm no one than they are on illegal activities of this type. The last report I heard on this topic pretty much dismissed the idea that the domestic law enforcement agencies could do much to stop it.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:00 AM
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7. Yeah, that's what I figured
It's patently obvious the only "children" BushCo are interested in are unborn fetuses. (And that only for political gain.) Keeping kids from viewing porn sites is the parents' balliwick, IMHO...There are plenty of software programs to aid in this if one doesn't choose an ISP like AOL that provides its own set of filters to use at one's discretion.

I don't have kids, but I set up a free parental control program for a friend and it worked like a charm.

But getting back to kiddie porn, it's a most deplorable industry whose destruction should be a top priority for any administration -- particularly one that claims to be all about family values. And it is do-able, regardless of what they say. Where there's a will there's a way.

Hey, if Bush** can spread democracy to and fro, he can certainly tackle the genetic mutants in this country who deal in the sexual enslavement of children!!
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:42 AM
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5. Unless people are using ultrasound pictures of fetuses to create
porn, I don't think Bush cares.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:22 PM
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14. What am I missing here?
If there are that many child porn sites in the US, why hasn't anyone moved to shut them down? I can't imagine it's that hard to track down their ISP. Find the perverts and put them away.

I have nothing against porn that only involves adults, but child pornographers deserve no sympathy.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:11 PM
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18. In several cases
When these sites are discovered by the FBI, they are left up and monitored. Most are pay sites, and when someone puts in a CC number, they get busted.

Fine for getting sicko's interested in viewing this material - but doesn't really help stem the tide of this material.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:17 PM
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22. Bill Clinton took the FBI's
Obscenity unit and focused it exclusively on Child porn. Ashcroft under Bush, and even more so
Gonzoles have taken resources OFF child porn to focus on (consentual) adult obscenity.

Gonzoles even said adult obscenity was the #1 priority, even above child porn.

Disgusting.
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T_Matamoro Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:52 AM
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6. sorry but were gonna have to live with it.
I only say that because as long as we have the internet we will have this sort of thing. Even more so when you deal with somthing that is international. How can the cops in the UK deal with Russia or Romainia? The only thing that can be done is to run "sting" operations, but even then that only really catches the VIEWERS of child porn and not the MAKERS! who are the ones who should really be caught. I mean i dont care how much you collect childporn you cant actually make it unless your raping a child. But sincethe internet can be anonymous catching it can be hard. And in some cases they even use computers when the owner is not aware of it. For example USENET can contain some child porn among it's millions of data files and if your computer transacts with usenet you could without your knowledge have childporn stashed onto your server. (this is for people who runs servers only) So what happens then? Should the server owner be charged with possession even if he did'nt know about it? I think the real thing to do is beef up Social workers and child protective services they are in the best position to stop this problem, not Digital cops.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:22 AM
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8. Not surprising at all...
The world has also had a massive up surge of conservative control. We know how sexually repressed they are. Their sexuality has to come out somehow.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:47 PM
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9. And then there's the Gothic Lolita craze in Japan---
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:52 PM
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12. Hey, I Looked Like That Once
at a Rod Stewart concert back in the 80's....they are kinda cute....some are scary looking, as I'm sure I was...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:58 PM
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10. Evidently porn pushers give til it hurts
to the GOP, and that's what it's all about, isn't it?

Either that or Halliburton is diversifying.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:13 PM
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20. Actually, most of the owners of the actual production companies
in the legal ADULT entertainment industry, give far more to Dems.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:07 PM
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11. The Free Market will always deliver
what people's lower chakras want, whether it's drugs, big SUV's, Hollywood blockbuster movies or child porn. As long as the State allows the Market to operate freely, it'll be thus.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:13 PM
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13. this is a set up
"protection of the children" will be the war cry used to take down the internet.

yes, the kiddie porn sites are out there.

but they are MUCH more concerned with the truth making its way to the internet, rather than a few perverts looking at kiddie porn.

just my .02.

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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:00 PM
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16. This is one of the new diversions they're trying out.
While there is nothing more despicable than using children in this way, it seems that the right plan to label this as a problem with liberal ideas.

O'Reilly had David Horowitz on to discuss how one university professor, obviously "liberal", wrote that there is nothing inherently wrong with sex with children.

This is another less than subtle way of associating liberals with licentiousness.

And of course the Fox viewer's were taken in.

Hell, I believe even advertising should not be directed towards children. And those who use children for sexual gratification and profit make me want to change my mind about the death penalty. This is not an issue of "liberal vs. the righteous", and it angers me that someone like O'Reilly would try to make this case.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:25 PM
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15. Why shouldn't children have their own porn sites?
Why do you hate sex?



:sarcasm:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:03 PM
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17. Is this a group similar to some of the hysterical Fundie wacko groups?
Or is it a real threat? Is seems doubtful to me that this is as big a deal as some people would like us to believe it is.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:12 PM
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19. How long before a War on the Internet?
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:16 PM
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21. Shocking stuff.
Although, the stats need to be watched. A massive increase in complaints doesnot mean a massive increase in sites - perhaps simply a massive increase in internet users or any number of other factors.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:17 PM
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23. It's so absolutely repulsive, all my liberalism can't stop me
from wishing the most horrible horrors on the people who would do this to children. How vile. How repugnant. Those slithering monsters!
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Teenager Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:52 PM
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24. Yeah, I think it's horrible too.
I think it's nasty and disgusting that anyone would want to do that to kids.


Repulsive.
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