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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 11:00 PM
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Pundits, if you were dumb enough to fall for the neocon line in 2002-3...
why should anyone pay you any attention when you wise up in 2006? Idiots! Shameless wastes of space!

http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/27127#comment

Matthew Yglesias
The Shocking Truth
By Matthew Yglesias | bio

Andrew Sullivan takes a gander at Steven Cambone's notes and concludes that "My confidence that there was no deliberate misleading of the American people after 9/11 just slipped a notch." What changed his mind? This:

The most revealing items, of course, are the following: in discussing whether Iraq could have been involved, the notes say: "judge whether good enough hit S.H. at same time." Later comes: "Hard to get a good case." Then there's this: "Go massive ... Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

I agree that this is revealing, but February 2006 is a little late to get on the bus. All of these facts were reported several years ago. It's pretty clear that the public was deliberately misled to some extent. To be perfectly fair, it's hardly all that unusual for an administration to deliberately mislead the public about matters of war and peace. Fundamentally, if invading Iraq had proven to be a good idea I doubt there would be all that much concern about the president's honesty. The basic problem is that the war wasn't a good idea. The lying is sort of icing on the cake.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 11:07 PM
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1. Again I ask; where are the Dems on this? What happened to the
second phase, remember, when Reid had the Senate shut down to discuss getting requested papers? So, where the hell are they, and why isn't anyone making a stink about not getting crucial info about why we went to war in the first place? :grr: :grr:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 01:00 AM
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3. DINOs acquiesced to "second phase" ploy
The actual Republicans made a tepid claim that America shouldn't be upset by this during election time. -That it would upset the democratic election process.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The Dems rolled over for a biscuit and a scratch behind the ear.
And we get the rolled up paper.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 11:17 PM
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2. "deliberately misled"
Yeah, right. Way to "hit 'em hard" with those words, Matt.

Frankly, I gave up on Yglesias a long time ago, too.

Dude is a poor fact checker and shallow analyst.
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