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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:42 AM
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FREEPERS....if you got any guts read this.
What else don't you know? Surely that must be gnawing away at you now. If it's not, you're pathologically and profoundly fucked up.

It would have been one thing if your vote only subjected you to our neck deep, corruption, misery, suffering, mind boggling debt, job loss, covert cover ups, constitution shredding, world chaos and caskets almost daily rolling down the conveyor belt at Dover Air Force Base.

But you bastards took me along with you. And fifty nine million other begging and pleading Democrats trying to get it through your thick skulls in November of 2000 that you were about to make the biggest mistake of your lives. WE have to live in your world now. It was more important for you to have your noses buried in your bibles, embrace principals contrary to everything your ancestors intended America to be, and elect a lunatic pr oven loser that gets guidance from voices in his head. Well now, welcome to your world !!

We told you everything he's ever been involved in has failed or he had to go running back to daddy. He's like a three year old baby. You have to constantly be following around behind him, slap his ass, clean up his mess, and before you know it he’s into the next disaster. He has the brain of a three year old child. He couldn't figure out how to put his shoes on in the morning without a personal trainer. And you made him President.

But it's far worse than that now. He's taken us back twenty years in world respect and is heading us straight for World War III. We will re-live an equivalent of the Great Depression, and every American stride forward will be on the scrap heap of the Bush debacle.

We were the crazy ones when we told you maps were drawn up showing the oil fields in Iraq, when Richard Clarke told you that Iraq had nothing to do with September 11th, that Bush knew there was no need whatsoever to invade Iraq, that he's a power crazy freak that gets an erection thinking about the next goal he can implement in secrecy to further the PNAC.

We told you that he was intending to escalate around the world with the United States military under the guise of shoving phony democracy down the throats of countries who never had it, don't understand it, can't exist under it. And all the while having intentions of nothing but securing their oil riches and furthering the Bush corporate empire. We told you the closest this prick has ever to been to military combat was trying to pour Jack Daniels over his ice in an NCO club. We told you that Iraq was contained, no threat to America. We were the crazy ones.

Now you've been told by the head CIA agent in charge of coordinating all the intelligence from every department for the run-up to the Iraq invasion, that Iraq was four to five years away at least from developing a nuclear weapon! That's not new news to Bush. That's not unclear. That's the intelligence he was given! Now it's no longer left liberal Disneyland fantasy. It's proof he fucking lied. And you backed him. Now you are just as responsible for the 2,300 valiant, heroic American soldiers who went patriotically to their death for nothing, because of your stupidity.

You want sympathy from me? Go talk to the families of these soldiers and then get back to me. Over 15,000 will have to learn to live with artificial limbs, 50,000 minimum will have mental disabilities or Iraq borne illnesses. Tell the over 100,000 dead innocent Iraqi's how proud you are that they were in the kill range of a U.S. helicopter fired missile. Tell them how proud you are that we adopted their former leaders use of white phosphorous to kill them in mass, burning them alive.

You could have had Bin Laden in a prison cell. Al Quaeda could have been relegated to the known recruitment regions pre 911. You could have had something on your television besides 24 hour, around the clock reports on demonstrations against America. You could have had 500 billion invested in America that you have donated to Iraq because of your brilliant choice --not only once, but twice! And make no mistake, your Republican Congress made sure it was 100% donated. Democrats pleaded to make it a loan. Payable whenever Iraq was capable. Republicans said no. Democrats said, then at least make part of a loan. You said no again.

Did you know we are the only country in the world who gave money to Iraq that will never be paid back? One of the richest countries in the world? And now war rebuilding requirements were traded for your homeland security and desperately deteriorating American needs. Five hundred billion blown with billions more to come with no end in sight? And things are worse there now three years later than before invasion.

For what! You could have had the National Guard safely delivering needed aid in New Orleans instead of trying to avoid being blown up by an IED in a country that did nothing to us. Do you realize we are only 700 dead away from equaling the number of lives lost in the Goddamn 911 attack? Only seven hundred and you have succeeded in killing as many Americans as the hijackers. Plus the country we have literally needlessly demolished is reverting to civil war because of our presence. Are you proud yet? Welcome to your world.

There isn’t a solitary example of anything positive your monarch has done in five years. There are so many things your voting blunder has fucked up it would take a court reporter two days working around the clock to transcribe the list.

The terrorists you need to worry about are not in Afghanistan or Iraq. They’re in the White House and Capitol Hill. Secret prisons, secret torture, secret wiretaps, medicare bills to keep the drug companies very healthy and insured of no competition. Did you know the Republicans disallowed the C-Span cameras from filming them after the vote failed, because they were threatening members with blackmail for three hours to change their vote? Are you proud ?

Don’t let your car payment be one day late, because your bank will raise your credit card with perfect payment history to a new Republican preferred interest rate. When you get that envelope, take out your voting card and look at your elephant. You just got the trunk shoved up your colon.

I could turn this into a novel and still only highlight the most recent despicable outrages. The bribes, the corruption, the indictments, interest payment of 36 million dollars a day that we are obligated to pay on the foreign debt because Bush has borrowed more than all the presidents combined in 224 years. The CIA was set back at least ten years with the Plame outing.

And It takes a cover blowing exposure of secretly selling our ports to terrorists before you finally get it? Do you know you were never intended to find that out either? You were supposed to be so consumed with the Alito victory that your nose went right back into your bibles, abortion obsession and gay bashing. You were never supposed to come out of your hypnosis. The operative word here is SECRET . Do you see a pattern now? The other operative word is criminal .

Nothing this president has ever done has been legitimate or in the open. He's committed more crimes than the Sopranos, including treason. Not blow job related. Crimes !! Snow jobs, hose jobs, no jobs and bank job, crimes. On you, me and the American Treasury. These are only the things he’s been caught at. What you should find really scary now, now that you know he’s a maniacal fucking mental case, as we’ve been telling you for five years, is what else you DON'T know.

If he keeps you in diapers worrying about his “war on terror,” and then you find out that he has secretly for profit, turned over the singular most vulnerable entry point for the next nuclear device to enter this country, to the very people who enable the terrorists he wants you to be afraid of, do you think you know everything else this deranged Hitler lunatic HASN’T been caught at yet? It should make you shiver to your core.

More mis words are used every day with this freak than there are scandals to match them. Misled, misinterpreted, misinformed, misjudged, misdirected, mistake, mis-spoke, mis-underestimated, misunderstanding, mis-guided, mis-fired, misconception, miscalculated.

Cut the Kool Aide syrup lines to your brain. Wake up and smell the coffee. He doesn’t “mis” anything. He fucking

LIES !!!!! And so does the Republican Guard of chameleon clones in Congress that cover for him.

If you have any shame at all, at least join us now to campaign tirelessly for November and remove these enabling, do-nothing, corrupt puppets. It’s the least you can do to show remorse to the rest of the nation for putting us where we are.

If you are a member of the hard working backbone middle class of this nation, the Republicans have less interest in your welfare or security than Zarqawi. Unfortunately you are learning that the hard way.

Then pray that we’re able to remove this most dangerous miscreant that ever occupied the White House before we learn his next secret.

I will pray the Democrats through some miracle and our proven record of leadership can still manage to resurrect the peace again, return prosperity and redeem this great country.

And believe it or not, despite our furor, if you don't mind riding on a donkey, we'll still take you with us.



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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:54 AM
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1. Beautiful, Justice Is Comin!
:thumbsup:
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:55 AM
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2. but, but, but...
gay people can't get married now, right?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:40 AM
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21. That one f'ng kills me! Self serving self righteous assholes.
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! :grr:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:56 AM
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3. kick
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:00 AM
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4. But, but, he's a cowboy! And he's just like us!
I'd rather have a beer with him than Al Gore! Ha ha ha, sore loserman! :crazy:

K & R, excellent rant.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:03 AM
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5. Well, at least fags can't get married.
And I wonder what happened to that pretty Natalee Holloway girl?
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:04 AM
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6. Beautiful. Nominated!
:toast: Thank you for that.
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:10 AM
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7. DAMN!!
Probably one of the BEST rants I've ever read here! Well done, you!

All true and all horribly depressing. I have a RW sister who really needs to read this.

Keep stoking the fire, Justice Is Comin. :thumbsup:

-chef-
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:12 AM
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8. I rarely nominate, but you got it. Well said! nt
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:18 AM
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9. But..but.. Rush says......
Rush if a fargin millionaire getting paid millions to feed you propaganda. He has already admitted he is in touch with the white house. Sheesh. How thick can you be1
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:18 AM
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10. woah. remind me never to get on your bad side
:yoiks:
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:23 AM
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11. K&R!! But one question: Why do you hate our freedom? nt
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TennesseeRain Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:26 AM
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13. If you aren't doing anything wrong,
why do you need freedom? Or something like that :)

Or as Durst once said, "Why not give the Iraqi people our constitution. We aren't using it."
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:46 AM
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38. LOL ..!
I just have to retype that. Because I have actually heard freepers say that: "if you're not doing anything wrong, why do you worry about them wire tapping your phones?"

Or more Orwellian: If you object to people invading your constitutional rights, you must hate freedom?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:25 AM
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12. And if we "just hate bush", why was bush's rating at one time 90%?
We supported the stupid MFer...until the stupid MFer fucked up by dropping us all into a huge pile of shit and he's still burying us daily deeper into it.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:06 AM
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33. I never supported him,
even when he staged his "bullhorn moment" right after he let 9/11 happen on purpose.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:56 PM
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48. Never, not even for a moment.
I'm with you on this. He's always been an incompetent spoiled ass leaching off of society and he always will be.

Even at the height of his popularity I did not support him.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:38 PM
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53. 9/11-endused PTSD. It didn't last long.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:28 AM
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14. Nothing to add.....well maybe one thing.....
I believe he was telling everyone that voted for this war criminal:

FUCK YOU!
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:30 AM
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15. Your first mistake
Is to think that freepers can read more than one paragraph with out their minds wandering.
They have been trained to respond only to short slogan like writings and could never make it through something that required a slight effort.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:51 AM
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16. Excellent post!
I still don't think any of this will really hit home with Republicans until something has a direct effect of them. They lose a child serving in the military in Iraq. Their interest rates on credit cards go sky high. They can no longer afford their prescription medicines. They realize how much profit the oil companies are making, and compare that to the cost of filling up their SUV or minivan.

THEN THEY'LL GET IT. But it will come slowly to them. Like a wave in the ocean it will cover them with sadness. They will realize they have given away something much more dear than keeping gay people from getting married.

Pathetic, yes. But it's the truth.

Kicked and nominated!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:12 AM
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23. Na, you really miss-underestimate them.
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 09:19 AM by nolabels
At the core of most of them is some underlying fear that can't be quenched. Let me tell ya, they are really much more stupid then they look. Having a talk with one just the other day I know this to be true. The guy felt compelled to go on a rap with jokes about cigars and Monica. Then a few lines later he was telling my Latino Friend and co-worker just how great Ronald Reagan was for their group as whole. The dude was so off cue to the point of even trying to laugh at the punch lines himself.

Being and working the trucking industry most of my life I get to see a lot of these folks from the heartland up close and personal. This is who they are and this how things operate for them. I had came to realization a long time ago of how ignorant some of these people are and or how slow things really travel in their conscience. The place they call home everybody else is like that so it just seems normal to them.

George really is just another one of them. Them kind of people who are so stupid that can't see their own mistakes and blame the devil (or think god must of mad at them). Also don't be fooled by the foolishness of George, the power brokers wanted a fool like this in office. This gives them the best chance to go about their wretched greediness unfettered. As of now, the power brokers are probably now even taking it as challenge to see how long they can keep the fool in office despite who or what Bush is or how he represents them.

To be able to fix a problem you must first be able to realize a problem exists
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foreverdem Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:55 AM
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17. Spot on post!
Kicked and nominated.
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:02 AM
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18. Good article, I guess
These super long screeds are really unfair to those of us with Attention Problems. Is there a condensed version?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:49 AM
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22. A George Carlin joke, I think...
The condensed version...I'm pretty sure it was Carlin who, when speaking of death, said he doesn't get it when people say "well, it was his time." What if I'm sitting on an airplane over the pacific, and it's the pilot's time? It's not fuckin' MY time, but you're tellin' me I gotta go with him?

Something like that.

That basically what the rant is saying to the Bushistas. It's bad enough to pay your dues and pledge your allegience to an organization that spits on you and laughs at you, but you've taken the rest of us along with you, the good, hard working people who did nothing to deserve this wrath set upon them by their government.

It may be their time, but dammit, it's not ours!
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:04 PM
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116. Thank you
very much.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:16 AM
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19. Yes, & Stop Hating Liberals
That's how the neocons control you, Freepers. I think you need to hate them more than you hate us. We are not even *half* as bad as the Neocons! Maybe if you got to know us, you would find out that we aren't so bad.

Tammy
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:16 AM
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35. I find it incredibly sad that they can be so easily
controlled by giving them someone to hate.

These people are unhappy. They do not want to take responsibility for their own bad decisions & will not consider that sometimes we are all simply victims of plain misfortune. No, these people want someone to blame for their misery, someone to direct their anger at, someone to hate. These are not people who would consider analyzing what got them where they are & then try to come up with a plan to get themselves in a better place. They are lazy & complacent & Rush, Bill, Ann play to that fact & are more than happy to point the finger at liberals & tell these people that we are to blame.

It's quite frightening how many of these types are out there. It's quite sickening when you see them in your own family.
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Citrene Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:16 AM
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20. Hands down, one of the absolute best rants on DU I've ever had the
pleasure of reading.

Peace and once again, what a rant!

C/S
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:30 AM
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24. find a way to let me know what you are wearing when....
the brown shirts haul us away to the detention centers. I want to be right next to you, screaming at the guards.

The enablers who are so worried about their "security", who have been complicit in Bush's criminal, maniacal behavior by buying into his mantras and "voting" him into office twice need to answer for their sins of total ignorance. It's a wonder there is ANYBODY left to support the bastard and his stooges. I imagine ther is a whole lot of feelings of guilt, shame and feeling betrayed by their fearless leader. If not, there sure as hell should be. And I hope it haunts them the rest of their lives.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:42 AM
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25. and Misbegotten
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:51 AM
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26. Kick...
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:54 AM
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27. .

:kick:
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:05 AM
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28. Bravo!
n/t
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:09 AM
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29. Well, assuming that
any freepers will read your rant, I wonder if you've considered the possiblity that they know all of that AND APPROVE?

It would explain a lot, don't you think?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:03 AM
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30. Justified words...
in direct terms that the average rabid foaming-at the mouth neanderthal can understand. Sometimes we need some fire and brimstone too. We nice liberals put up with too much.

Freepers are usually tightwads. Maybe they can FINALLY GET that $500+ billion has been blown on the Bush Family War while the rich got tax cuts. And we are no more "secure"...esp if Dubai runs the ports.
(It's unrealistic to expect them to care about people getting killed, or Middle Eastern countries getting ravaged, or white collar criminality).

Freepers care only about their own security, which is now exposed as not a concern of their Fearful Leader. May they turn on the BFEE in large numbers every bit as viciously as they did on the Democrats. Take up the pitchforks against their selected representatives. Would be a good way to atone for their sins. Just might help us all.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:03 AM
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31. Wow! Best rant on the net! Check this line out:
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 11:12 AM by The Backlash Cometh
"Only seven hundred and you have succeeded in killing as many Americans as the hijackers."
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:03 AM
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32. Your biggest mistake is assuming that freepers can read
Purhaps yuo shoud have added a speling eror or too so they could compreehend it

Awesome rant, though, for those of us that do. k&r


:kick: :yourock: :applause:
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:08 AM
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34. There is actually a tragically funny thread linking this post
at a freeper hangout unlinkable on DU.

You need to revise this in the easily digestible "See spot run", "See dick shoot." sort of logic.

They can't take whole paragraphs; and this tendency to run away from words becomes worse when those paragraphs come in multiples (e.g. two or more).

I say their posts are tragically funny because it seems they'll remain loyal subjects out of sheer laziness. The guts part is negotiable.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:53 PM
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60. ...
Well Hallelujah!Good to know they are seeing this.I realize just how over their heads it must be but nonetheless it is good to know they see it and I am sure most of them have read every word.




Happy Reading Freeps.

:hi: :dem: :kick:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:16 AM
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36. They won't understand this letter - they can't

I am going to say something that sounds pretty mean, but I believe it is true.

A large percentage of people who are Bush supporters are extremely under-educated or just out & out stupid. They are INCAPABLE of critical thinking. They don't understand cause and effect relationships. They like Bush for the very qualitites we detest. He is simple and easy to understand. Someone they can relate too...The people still supporting him are:

Extremely under-educated & ignornant

Stupid

Or, full of hate - they LIKE the wars, the bigotry, the hate speech towards the left.

It has never about REASON with these people.
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Memory Container Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:24 PM
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41. Ding ding! You win!
There's nothing mean about what you've said. It's simple truth.
Bush is the LCD (lowest common denominator) president. They relate to him and take our criticism of him the only way they know how... personally. They can't step away from that.
I've tried very hard to get through to some of them... it's pointless.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:23 PM
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52. True. "full of hate - they LIKE the wars, the bigotry, the hate...
full of hate - they LIKE the wars, the bigotry, the hate speech..."

PLUS: just like their simpleton idol, they'll NEVER actually want to go to the war they like and can't live without - because as long as OTHERS THAN THEMSELVES go lose their lives/limbs/sanity in them, that's alright with them: COWARD$.

Good rant that OP, though. Sometimes it feels good to vent that way (telling the truth as it is).
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:00 PM
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90. I know many over-educated people
They are so busy with work, kids, life, golf, shopping, that they have to rely on other people, who listen to Rush Limbaugh and watch Sean Hannity, to tell them the 'news'.
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:55 PM
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93. I'm sure there are some of those Debbierlus,
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 11:00 PM by brer cat
but I know many intelligent people who are simply UNINFORMED. They don't have computers or access to the 'net, they don't understand that Faux news is WRONG news, they believe their ministers because they always have and see no reason to change. Many are led by peer pressure because that's almost all they hear.

I'm in a very red state, with redneck voters and a long history of the KKK. But I don't personally know any * supporter who LIKES war, is a bigot, or uses hate speech toward the left thinkers. They are very capable of reason, but they don't often hear contrary opinions to get them thinking.

I try my best, but who am I? An antiques/book dealer in a small town who is known for not even owning a television. So around the water cooler am I more credible that whatever was on faux news last night?

We have to forget the absolute base...there are those that you described, who are maybe 20-25% of * support, and we wouldn't have them if they wanted to join. But don't write off the rest.

The recent polls give us very much hope...the message is getting through. It doesn't matter whether it was Katrina, wiretapping, dead-eye dick, the port disaster, whatever...a message got through.

NOW, what do we do about it? How do we keep them INFORMED? Not by assuming they are stupid or incapable of reason and writing them off, but giving them candidates from a dem/progressive/green party foundation who speak out loud enough to get media attention and give them some meat to chew. DINO's need not apply. Let's pity the uninformed and try to reach them, welcome the repentant * lovers and not bash them for their previous thoughts and deeds. We need them in our fight for 2006 and 2008. Bring them under the big tent.

Sorry for the mid-thread rant.

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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #36
112. "They don't understand cause and effect relationships."
Boy, is that true. Elderly relatives of mine don't understand cause & effect at all; they are incapable of understanding that republinazi policies crater our economy, & that if you offshore a lot of jobs, there's less money to run bullshit wars, pay for police & fire protection, pay for road repair, and pay for the generous social security they're busy getting. :eyes: People like this are pathologically stupid.


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ryan_cats Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:18 AM
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37. Forwarding to reich wingers I know to witness the gnashing of teeth
Forwarding to reich wingers I know to witness the gnashing of teeth first hand.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:57 AM
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39. A Freeper replies.
You're wrong.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #39
45. Did you read the whole post? How is it wrong?
Please go ahead and explain.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #39
56. Please, I would like to hear your analysis
How is the OP wrong? Making the statement that the OP is wrong does not make you any more correct than bush*inc saying that there were WMDs in Iraq.

The truth hurts. But the longer you wait to face the truth, the more horrible things you will be complicit in committing against our nation and the larger world. For God's sake, wake up.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:44 PM
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #57
61. I'd actually like to see him given a chance to respond.
The fact that he appeared in the thread, identified himself as a freeper, and only said "You're wrong" versus a litany of swear words and insults, renders him more civil than most of the freepers that have visited here. The absence of all caps is appreciated too.

Maybe some of the words in the OP rung true to him, and he's trying to come to grips with that. If he really feels the OP is wrong, I'm curious as to what his explanation is for why Bush's behavior is decent and good for this country, if that's what he feels.

I'm willing to listen to a freeper who can offer a civil response. I may not agree, but I'll listen.

He may actually be starting to see the light, and if so, it wouldn't be the first time, we have many reformed Republicans here.

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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #61
74. I'd like to hear his/her response as well..
The original poster gave some pretty in depth commentary...which part is he wrong about?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #74
78. OK here's the reason why the post is wrong ...
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 07:24 PM by Kablooie
Because he's not right.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:31 PM
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #61
84. I posted above before seeing the Freeper's reply...
Pfft. Now it's clear. He's toying with you.

If progressives are to have ANY hope of regaining control, we have to toughen up. Gullibility, holding hands and singing kumbaya, and going along to get along just doesn't cut it. It never did. The OP has it right.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #84
85. hah...
He outed himself as a Freeper...I would think if he were going to sacrifice himself for the Bush he'd have done a much better job than that!

Toying with me?Us?Hahaha.He's too stupid to even begin to play much less toy with anybody here at D.U.



:evilgrin:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. Alright! Specifics! What is wrong about the POST!!!
G.W.Bush can NOT get an erection.

He never has and he never will.

(Ever wonder how he got those cute daughters? I'll tell you right now, they aren't his.)

So there!
Wrong as rain!

As for the rest, yeah, you're probably right.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:41 AM
Response to Reply #85
101. Nah, he was playing games...
and he had people here who wanted to hear more from him despite the obvious baiting.

"He's too stupid to even begin to play much less toy with anybody here at D.U."

That would have been my hope.

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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:51 AM
Response to Reply #101
102. It wasn't so much WANTING to hear more...
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 02:52 AM by Vektor
as it was wanting to see if he actually was going to try to wage a decent argument, and FWIW, I DO discuss politics with "the other side" and I do listen to what they have to say. I often totally disagree, but I do listen. I am not someone who refuses to hear other points of view, even if I am in total opposition to them.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:09 AM
Response to Reply #102
105. Yes, I know what you're saying, and you express yourself well...
but there are some genuine problems with the position you're espousing here.

Look... Freepers are true believers. They have no "decent argument", and to anticipate that one might be forthcoming misses the point. Their entire school of thought is simplistic, fraudulent, and morally bankrupt. It is infused with deliberate deception and is intended to manipulate and dominate. It is a full scale, confrontational, in-your-face assault on almost everything that is honorable, good, and decent. Despising liberals is a core belief. This isn't just another group of people with an opposing view, who are operating in good faith. Inviting them to provide a "decent argument" is akin to inviting mafia hit-men to discuss the finer points of moral and ethical quandaries. They'll just laugh at you.

You say that you aren't someone who refuses to hear other points of view, and that's usually a good approach. But there are exceptions to every rule. This is a point of view that seeks to destroy our way of life - plain and simple. There's nothing to discuss - nothing worthwhile to hear that we haven't already heard. Either we stop them, or we don't.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #105
107. Well, he clearly has demonstrated that he has nothing valuable to say,
anyhow, so I'm through listening. I gave him one opprtunity to explain how he thought the OP was wrong, he failed to do so...end of story there, I guess.

I know how nasty these people can be. I have no desire to give them a free pass, don't worry.

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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #107
111. Doesn't anyone here get it?
Geez.

I'm not a Freeper. Prankster perhaps, but not Freepish.
I thought my posts were so inane that you'd certainly pick up
that I was playing a part.

I take all the Bush crap seriously but that doesn't preclude
having fun with it as well.

As to having nothing valuable to say, well in this post discussion
you are certainly correct. I have said nothing of value at all, deliberately.
Playing the part of a Freeper doesn't give one much of value to say.

I'll stop now about this but it won't prevent my fingers from saying excessively
frivolous things in the future.


Blubblesnatch.


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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #111
114. I didn't see your last post about Bush's non-existent erection.
:rofl:

All I saw was "You're wrong."

Which is the M.O. of many visiting freepers. It was impossible to know you weren't a freeper with only those two words to go on.

Had I seen the rest, then yeah, that would have been different.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:37 AM
Response to Reply #84
100. I know, I just wanted to see what he'd say.
I wasn't supporting him, I only allowed him to continue because he, at the very least, did not come in here swearing in all caps and hurling insults like most of them do..

Clearly he's a freeper, but I was curious if he actually had a valid argument or not.

He proved he does not, so be it. You didn't have to get mad at me.
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Memory Container Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:20 PM
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40. But, But... there are too many words...
My Freeper-brain can't take the strain so all I could make out was;

"Blah blah 'Bush' blah blah...blah blah 'evil', Blah blah blah 'we were right because' blah blah 'you were wrong' blah blah blah. 'Bush sucks' blah blah, 'you suck' blah blah blah 'criminal' blah blah 'corrupt' blah blah. blah blah blah 'I told you so' blah blah."

Why do you have so much IRRATIONAL hatred for Bush?


Seriously... they really can't read that much without turning certain cognitive functions off.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:27 PM
Response to Original message
42. Excellent!
But they won't read it.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:36 PM
Response to Original message
43. Fantastic!
Man I've been wanting to do a post like this
for days. You exceeded anything I imagined.
Great Rant!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:46 PM
Response to Original message
44. Awesome, I read the whole thing!
Said some things that absolutely needed to be said. Bravo! :toast:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:51 PM
Response to Original message
46. "When you get that envelope...
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 12:52 PM by Vektor
...take out your voting card and look at your elephant. You just got the trunk shoved up your colon."

By far one of the best lines ever written!

Edited to give you your little patriot smiley! :patriot:
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:53 PM
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47. Remember how the Angry White Man rode into town on taking personal
responsibility? They whole rationale for gutting the social net was that people should be responsible for themselves. Well, the Republican Revolution has failed miserably. All they did was take our national wealth private. Did the enablers ever stop to realize that Americans, as the world's consumer, could be replaced? With the rise of middle classes - ie, people with jobs - around the world, no one will care if America is standing in soup lines and 3 generations are sharing family values under one roof. You have been sold out.

The only question remains is whether the people who voted Republican will finally take any responsibility for what they have brought. Will they even re-register as Independents or Libertarians, or is that too much trouble? Will they tell their Republican congressmen in no uncertain terms that the corruption must be cleaned up? Will they admit they were wrong? Or is taking personal responsibility just for welfare queens?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
49. Freepers Will Never Read this because THEY ARE 100% Cowards
That's how they can support a war without volunteering to fight in it.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. I figured they wouldn't read it because their attention span ...
isn't that long. I'm not saying that to get in a pithy jab, I'm quite serious. The Freepers with which I have had the dubious pleasure of political discourse really can't handle long sentences or multiple themes. If it couldn't be delivered in a monosyllabic 15 second sound bite it was lost on them. The OP is entirely too long. I can see them opening it, realizing the length and saying, "to hell with that much reading!"

Please Note: Freeper is not necessarily synonymous with traditional Republican.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
50. And the scary thing about the Dimson starting WWIII is that we
will be on the wrong side - it will be the world against us because of this idiot.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 01:06 PM
Response to Original message
51. Well said! These assholes have robbed us blind and its
gotten to the point that the media can't keep up with the lies. It's all become so fucked up it's surreal now. Even C-Span seems lost in trying to find a balance now. The U.S. has become a nationwide psychiatric disorder thank to Bush and co. Nominated for homepage.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:49 PM
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55. "...we'll still take you with us."
Welcome to all new Democrats and Independents who once were Republicans.

It's what "born again" will come to mean in the new American century.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:46 PM
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58. Deleted message
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #58
62. What a bunch of delusional bullshit!
Having fun posting crappola at DU?

Enjoy your short stay here!
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #58
63. And now, A PARTING GIFT FOR YOU!
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 04:21 PM by Vektor


:hi:
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. I caught that. That was hillarious.
:thumbsup:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. Thanks!
:evilgrin:
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #63
80. Oh mamma, this is too sweet. Is 2006 destined to be a rhetoricblood bath?
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #58
64. Look, everyone, it's an asshole!
Hey, asshole! :hi:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Again, flushed out like a hand-tamed bird on a trophy hunting farm!
Alert, AND buckshot are your friends! :-)
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #58
68. And if you believe everything IBD says, then you really are a SFF
(SFF = stupid fucking freeper) and a poor one at that.

Keep on buying their shit... I make money off everything they say, just as long as I do the opposite.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 03:53 PM
Response to Original message
59. Considering there are no tombstones, none had the brains or balls to reply
Weird.

Kudos. Great job.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #59
86. One thimble brained moron posted above you...
I guess the smarmy reptile didn't last too long :rofl:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:37 PM
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69. They are busy
Praying...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1586553/posts

"II Timothy 1: 3
I thank God, Whom I serve with a pure conscience,
as my forefathers did, as without ceasing
I remember you in my prayers night and day.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: FAITH; HOPE; PRAY; PRESIDENTBUSH; TROOPS; VICTORY
Heavenly Father,

Our hearts are full of humble thanks as we bless Your Name this day. We are grateful most of all to be Your children---children of the Living God, and inheritants of Your Kingdom. We are thankful to be Americans, Father, and to be able to enjoy the freedom and the abundance of life in this nation that we love. And we are thankful for the promise that one day, our Savior will return to this earth. Until the time when we meet You face to face, may our hearts always be filled with the peace and joy You leave with us.

Bless our President, O Lord, with special endurance for the trials he must endure. So much is expected of him; so much ridicule and bitterness harbored against him. Make straight Your way before him as he takes refuge in You. Give him the discernment to untangle all the confusion, and help him to bring clarity to every situation that requires his response. Spread Your protection over him and his family, that those who love Your Name may rejoice in You. For surely, O Lord, You bless this righteous man. You surround him with Your favor as with a shield. Make him an ambassador for life causes, Father, and may his works of righteousness affect all generations to come. Grant him the blessing of Your protection as he travels to India, and may he be a beacon of light to the people of that nation."


Not tell me how this is not a cult?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #69
94. Hehe
Please, please Lord, give him a clue!!!
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 04:49 PM
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70. Those brain dead psychos don't give a shit

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 05:09 PM
Response to Original message
71. Proud and happy to add another K & R!!!
Just one teensey-weensey critique:

"... it would take a court reporter two days working around the clock to transcribe the list."

I am a court reporter, known for my ability to turn out hundreds of pages of transcript in a two-day period. I could NEVER transcribe THAT list in only two days.


:kick:
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
72. Thank you, and
I hope you don't mind my printing this and posting it wherever I can.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 05:33 PM
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73. it's ALL worth it to them
if they can crush the gays. period.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. Hi, grassfed! Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #75
83. hi & thanks
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:15 PM
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76. You tell 'em! Great rant! Should be required reading for all of our
Repug relatives.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:58 PM
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77. Proudly providing recommendation #101. Great post. eom
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:18 PM
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79. The Greatest Fucking Post I ever read in DU !! Congrats...
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:28 PM
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81. Ten thumbs
way up for this one. A terrific post.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:31 PM
Response to Original message
87. Please remember -- they only THINK they elected him. It was really
the machines and machinations in FL in 2000, aided and abetted by a Supreme Court which just couldn't abide the thought of the whole thing playing out in the lower courts, as it should have.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:38 PM
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89. I have THIS to say about THAT!


THAT is all!
:dem:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:05 PM
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91. Best. Rant. Ever!

:kick:

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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:25 PM
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92. I am honored and humbled
Thank you for such an awesome, sobering post, Justice.

Peace...

:kick:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:24 PM
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95. Man, that's it in a nut shell....n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:27 PM
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96. Good rant.. One minor beef--
We told you that he was intending to escalate around the world with the United States military under the guise of shoving phony democracy down the throats of countries who never had it, don't understand it, can't exist under it.

You're forgetting that Iran was a secular democracy in 1954, when Britain and the US overthrew the government and installed the Shah. Their crime, of course, was voting to nationalize their oil. See also the commentary on the Palestinian elections. This happenes every time the corporate thugs notice that people in foreign countries elect leaders that answer to their own populations instead of to transnational corporations and their local elite lapdogs.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:34 PM
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97. Excellent effort. Thank you for all of us who wait and wonder when these
idiots are going to wake up and smell the ether.

:bounce:
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north houston dem Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:00 AM
Response to Original message
98. That was beautiful in it's rage and righteousness
Justice Is Coming. :applause:
K&R
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:13 AM
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99. Even if they have the guts
They don't have the education to that much reading

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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:46 AM
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103. OUT FUCKING STANDING..THE BEST RANT I EVER SEEN
AT DU.....^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5 ^5

YOU MY FRIEND MAKE ME PROUD TO BE AMERICAN AGAIN...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :yourock: :yourock:


I WILL PRINT THIS AND SHOW THIS TO ALL MY GOP FRIENDS...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:51 AM
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104. Great post n/t
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:25 AM
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106. Why do you hate Amurka?
;-)
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:52 AM
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108. Loved it
Too bad nothing can make it through their thick skulls.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:06 AM
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109. God, that was beautiful.
Absolutely gorgeous. Thank you!!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:18 AM
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110. Utterly Superb! (eom)
The Professor
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:36 PM
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113. But, but, it dunt matta, Jebus is coming to take us away wit da rapture.
:applause::woohoo::crazy::silly::freak::eyes:


:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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NightHawk63 Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:22 PM
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115. Awesome post!!!
I had to share the link with all my like-minded friends.
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