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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:16 PM Original message |
Bush Admin's First Memo on Al Qaeda Declassified (Richard Clarke) |
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5X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for this. k&r. n/t |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It's not news, but I fail to see it mentioned anywhere in the mass media. |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I'm glad to be reminded of this, |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Don't have LexisNexis, but I do have GOOGLE. |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. I'm not at odds with you on this. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. Notice that they wouldn't release the copy till after the election? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The Royal Order of the Pet Goat |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. I was told I'd have to ride a goat for my sorority initiation! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Good on ya, noonwitch! I was a judge at a Fainting Goat competition... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nominated. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. From Clarke's book: |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Criminal Negligence -- at BEST. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The more one reads |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Wolfowitz is a comb-licking turd of the BFEE, all right. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You must have |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
72. the comb licker is the guy that testified to congress that the Iraq war |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. The rethugs were too busy trumping up Star Wars |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. It didn't take long for them to figure out how to make a buck off terror. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. and blaming Clinton for all of their woes |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
70. Chief Wahoo...huh !? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. Bushco: Asleep at the Wheel |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Timing - Dems were forbidden to issue their 9-11 commission findings till |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. I'd've run the 5-minute 'My Pet Goat' classroom scene over and over ... |
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ktlyon (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. then there is the Hart-Rudman report on terrorism |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. he handed that off to cheney |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. That pipeline'd've been a pisser of pure money for ENRON. |
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Jack from Charlotte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. There were 3 clear warnings to AWOL/moron about OBL..... |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. That explains everything! |
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phusion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. al-CIAda n/t |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Spelling counts |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. No one could have predicted a terrorist would mis-spell a warning word... |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. It may be that I'm too suspicious these days, but |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Go to the link and download the 3 page 200dpi redacted pdf file. n/t |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Thanks. I was lazy, I guess. nt |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. I appreciate your concern, wiggs. Here's the deal on 6 Aug 2001 PDB: |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. As far as I know, she never has retracted that testimony. |
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(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. does show that a extremely skewed partisanship |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Weird how, once we got hit, George Moron of Jungle goes for Iraq. |
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(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. I'm with you 100% - thank goodness he is in his 2nd term |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
79. And then, he LIED during the televised debate on Oct. 11, 2000... |
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threadkillaz (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. December 2000 Strategy |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. No 9-11 if FBI had told Clarke about the terrorist 'flight students.' |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. agreed, clarke was the only one with the sense of urgency and |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. PNAC (which increases nat'l INsecurity) always took precedence,... |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. PNAC Neo Fascists needed a "New Pearl Harbor". |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. One of the most influential neo-conservatives passed away yesterday |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Irv Kristol: "The godfather of modern (conservative) philanthropy." |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Juan Cole: 'Bin Laden's Vision Becoming Reality' |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. It's almost as if,....the neoconsters actually adopted ObL's vision. |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
74. true and they are fucking idiots for not seeing it |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. Please post if this is seen anywhere in MSM. This is important. nt |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Thanks, wiggs! Anyone see the 6 Aug 2001 PDB in the MSM? |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-27-06 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
35. Bush and Cheney were in bed with Al Qaeda |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Evidence that George W Bush and Osama bin Laden connected... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Octafish, I want to create a photo of blivet and his ancestors |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. This is a difficult question... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. perfect, I will add the Rev. Moon to that |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You're welcome, burythehatchet! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Very important to note Khasshoggi and AQ Khan, too. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. What a mind-blowing list of the world's vermin |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. They exist and rule because their cronies control most corporate media. |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. WOW! WOW! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #49 |
81. Mark Lombardi pegged these turds way back in '99. |
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bspence (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
87. This was in Fahrenheit 9/11 n/t |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
93. The CBC documentary containing part of the Bill White interview... |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
41. K&R! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Thanks, Patsy Stone! Please check out: 'The Bush-bin Laden Connection' |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. Thanks Octafish nm |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Anytime, texpatriot2004! More on 'The Bush-Bin Laden Money Connection' |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
88. They are a sick, evil lot nm |
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Dragonbreathp9d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
51. Suprise Suprise |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Good memory, Dragonbreathp9d! What ASHCAN did... |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
52. Saw this yesterday. More angry today reading it again |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Bush said: 'If we had something to hide, we wouldn't have (gone).' |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
60. Kicking: MOST INTERESTING PART OF THIS THREAD===> |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Thanks for noticing, berni_mccoy. What Leopold wrote... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Still amazing that no broadcast media will dare mention it. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
66. from Day One, these guys were so good at international terror issues |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. They PROMOTED a). the incompetent or b). the treasonous. Pick one. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. FBI Coleen Rowley said Washington HQ CHANGED her Moussaoui memo. |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
69. the memo was to condi rice; i bet that bush never saw it |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. A good bet Bush SAID he never saw it. |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
71. This memo and no action from rice; and her inane comments about |
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Trevelyan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
80. I care. Thank you for the information on Richard Clarke. I think that it |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Whistleblowers are people, too. |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. A FOIA Request |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
84. Hey Thanks All for reposting all of this. Sure helps to jog our memories. |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
85. will pass it on. thanks! (nt) |
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bspence (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
86. My head just exploded after reading this. n/t |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
89. WOW!! This should be the final piece thats needed!!!! |
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Sal316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
90. Two words that struck me about this. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
91. There were people and organizations working all sides of this |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Same evil names have been popping up for decades - and some dare call |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I like that "and some dare call it coincidence." blm. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-02-06 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
95. kick |
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