I Really wanted to see what bush* would do if his veto was over-ridden

[me b zola]

We now can be fairly certain that Congress is using this 45 waiting period on the ports deal to ensure that they will not be hurt politically for selling out on our national security. With Frist and some other puke heavy weights sounding as though they are going to back bush*, we may not have enough votes to over-ride bush*s veto.

I am *really* curious to see what the idiot king would do if Congress blocked him. I don't have any doubt that he would go ahead with the deal anyway, I just want to know how he would do it. I want to see how the public will react when he (once again) pisses on Congress, the American people, and the Constitution and claims his inherent urinary powers allows him to do what ever he likes.

[global1]

1. How Will This Play Out?.....

After the 45 day period - if Congress passes a law prohibiting this deal and * vetos it - how many votes are needed to override *'s veto?

[Richardo]

4. 2/3ds majority vote of the members present (not the total) in each chamber

"Overriding a presidential veto requires a two-thirds majority vote of the members present and voting (in other words, those who are actually in the chamber rather than two-thirds of the total) in each chamber."

[me b zola]

5. I'm not sure about the number needed to over-ride the veto

Right now it seems as though bush* et.al are leaning heavily on the pubs in Congress, and it seems as though they are using the 45 days to have their talking points drummed into every sheep's head to ensure the pubs that they will not be hurt politically for backing the deal.


edited to say that someone has posted the correct number needed to over-ride the veto. (I was wrong :blush: )

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. Schumer was suppose to bring a bill to the floor.

The Democrats would be foolish not to play this out to the end. They need to keep banging this away every day so the Republicans can't say that people lost interest.

[cal04]

3. maybe the dems need to remind the republicans about 911

since they haven't used it in a couple of days maybe we should remind them
repeat word for word to them the VERY same lines they give to them

[radfringe]

6. first he would have to find the VETO stamp

the only stamp he can find at the moment says "OTEV" on it...

but seriously - he'll do one of two things should the legislation hit his desk

1. he'll veto it and then issue an executive order to go ahead with the deal before it can be overridden in congress. This will stir up a hornets nest, congress will be scrambling for law books and meanwhile Dubai will be running the ports

2. he'll sign it and then issue a "signing statement" EXCLUDING Dubai from it and spin it as a "grandfather clause" type thingy. This will stir up a hornets nest, congress will be scrambling for law books and meanwhile Dubai will be running the ports

[AndyTiedye]

7. He Might Get Angry

[Pab Sungenis]

10. Reichstag fire indeed.

[Marr]

8. If it were clear that Congress would counter the veto, Bush would not veto

The Administration would make up some excuse for putting the deal aside if that were the case. They want to hand everything to their cronies, yes- but authoritarians depend heavily on theater, and they cannot afford to look weak.

Privately- I have no idea what he'd do. He might throw a fit, or he might not. I don't know if he personally really gives a shit.

[f-bush]

9. he'd sulk, pout, start another war with somebody and then.....

try to rewrite the constitution, as soon as everybody's mind is off the ports, then he would slip it through!

[Gabi Hayes]

11. this works better for dems, cause they've embedded

fear/hatred of brown people from the Middle East into the sheeple with exquisite effectiveness, and NOTHING they can say will wash those feelings away

anybody in a close race who votes for this deal will pay a price

[Independent_Liberal]

12. I don't know. This will be interesting to see.

I'm as curious as anybody else. I guess only time will tell. Until then, your guess is as good as mine.

[Orangepeel]

13. I don't think he'd veto if it was going to be overturned

they'd get enough republicans in line first, by hook or by crook