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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:08 PM
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How many Jewish executives are in the Dubai company?
anybody know?

:shrug:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:08 PM
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1. R U Sirius?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:10 PM
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3. Just "wondering" if it is disproportionately low. nt
nt
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:21 PM
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13. Ok, now there's coffee all over my monitor
Oh, I see... disproportionate compared to the general population of Dubai.....
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:10 PM
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4. it really is not an abusurd question. Lots of India outsourcing goes to
Israeli owned or operated tech companies.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:09 PM
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2. Even Better, how many Native Americans?
:shrug:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:22 PM
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14. I was curious about the Zoroastrians.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:46 PM
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22. And Presbyterians
How many of them?
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:11 PM
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5. Don't worry, we have an adequate number of Jews running the company .....
After all, we have operatives running the entire world!

http://internationaljewishconspiracy.com/
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:12 PM
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7. But the company refuses to do business with Israel
Or so I read
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:15 PM
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9. you can't enter the UAE if you have an Israeli entry stamp
anywhere in your passport
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:58 PM
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25. And... if it is like Saudi Arabia
when you request a VISA to enter the country you have to state your religion. Except for Henry Kissinger, I doubt that anyone who put "Jewish" in that box was granted a VISA.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:38 PM
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47. I have trouble believing that.
Could you cite a source?

The reason I ask is because the 3rd holiest place in Islam (The Dome of the Rock) is located in Israeli occupied Jerusalem and you must have a visa to visit.

Many Muslims visit each year, and I know people from the UAE who have visited.

Peace.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:59 PM
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49. Alas, 'tis true: UAE visa restrictions:
http://guide.theemiratesnetwork.com/living/visa.php

The three entry requirements of obtaining a visa in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and its seven emirates (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ajman, Umm Al Quwain, Ras Al Khaimah, and Fujairah) are that you are not a citizen of Israel, that your passport doesn't contain Israeli stamps, and that your passport is valid for at least 6 months before your arrival. Information about the various UAE visa categories are explained in detail below.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:16 PM
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43. More truthiness. Here's info on how DWP does business with ZIM, an Israeli
company:

Asked in an interview last week with “CNN” reporter Wolf Blitzer whether Dubai Ports World was doing business with Israel while the UAE refused to recognize Israel, Bilkey replied, “One of our very sound customers is Zim line. It's the largest shipping company. And the president of that company is very close to our company and supports us, because we have good relations with all of our clients.

” We handle their operations in a number of ports throughout the world because it's good commercial business for us. They wouldn't come to us unless we did a good job,” added Bilkey.
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000065318&fid=942
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:15 PM
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10. G-d!!! That's the funniest site I've ever seen!!
I especially liked the Jenna Nigerian letter!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:56 PM
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35. Check out their Forum, it's fun!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:15 PM
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11. very funny web site
as one of the Chosen, I must join that conspiracy!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:24 PM
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16. I can only qualify as a
jewannabe.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:40 PM
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18. as Woody Allen once said,
"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member".

(i think that was him!)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:42 PM
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20. It was
Groucho Marx who originally said that. But it's okay, because he was Jewish as well.

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:24 PM
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28. ah, Groucho...
he made some very funny and obscene remark involving his cigar... I wish I could remember that one.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:54 PM
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33. Here it is from Snopes (who claim the story is "undetermined"):
From Groucho (talking about an episode on his game show, "You Bet Your Life"):

Wherever I go, people ask me about a remark I purportedly made to Mrs. Story. Folklore about the encounter has been so broadly disseminated that it has been variously described as occurring with a mother having any number from ten to thirty children. The story, however, is not apocryphal. It did happen.

"Why do you have so many children?" I asked Mrs. Story. "That's a big responsibility and a big burden."

"Well," she replied, "because I love children, and I think that's our purpose here on earth, and I love my husband."

"I love my cigar too," I shot back, "but I take it out of my mouth once in a while."

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/groucho.htm
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:41 PM
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48. HAW HAW- thanks, NYCGirl!
that was IT!
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brucefan Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:44 PM
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21. I think it was Groucho Marx
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:21 PM
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27. I stand corrected
Thanks (to both!)
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:16 PM
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12. SSSHHHHHH!!!!
{nobody is supposed to KNOW that ...}

Shalom!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:25 PM
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17. That's a hoot
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:42 PM
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19. Ha, ha.. HAHAHA....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Now I have cranberry juice running down my monitor!





Not sayin it isn't true. ;)
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:12 PM
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6. I predict none
But even if some are Jewish, none are Israeli (since Dubai/UAE doesn't recognize Israel).
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:13 PM
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8. That would be odd. Someone should inquire.
And publicize the answer
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NoMercy Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:23 PM
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15. Major Israeli Companies such as ZIM are DPW partners
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:55 PM
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23. I call "BULLSHIT" on Israeli/UAE "partnership"
Was I first? - what do I win or was it too easy to see that this was crap?

DPW runs ports where Zim container ships load and unload - as do ships from every nation - is that the "partnership"?

If so then, that statement is beyond bullshit.

The idea the family that hates Israel and runs the UAE and thereby runs DPW would somehow enter into a "partnership" - it is LOL time.

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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:33 PM
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29. UAE won't recognize Israel 'til Israel withdraws from Occupied Territories
That is not "hate" and it's not unreasonable.

BTW, the UAE said this in response to Israeli overtures for setting up diplomatic relations with them in 2004. If Israel believed that the UAE was either a true threat, or that the UAE "hated" them, would they have made the overture, do you think? Essentially, the UAE is saying that until Israel is willing to take meaningful steps towards peace with the Palestinians, it will not recognize Israel. What's unreasonable about that?

The UAE "is fully committed to the Arab peace initiative announced at the Beirut and Algiers summits (in 2002 and March this year) which links any normalisation of ties with Israel with recognition of the Palestinian people's legitimate rights, including their right to the establishment of an independent state with holy Jerusalem as its capital", the source said.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/184FCB4A-39BD-4A0A-B38B-81FCFBD951BE.htm

I know that very many people aren't aware that there is more to the issue of recognition of Israel than we frequently hear. Both Human Rights Watch and the UN have declared the Israeli occupation illegal under international law. The non-recognition of Israel isn't a valid reason for the United States to have to nix a deal with the UAE.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:38 PM
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30. The fact that it jeopardizes our security, guts American jobs, and
is a sellout to Bush/Cheney cronies, IS a set of valid reasons.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:57 PM
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36. Fuckin' A -LOADED with truth!
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:04 PM
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39. Loaded with truthiness, not factiness. eom
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:54 PM
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34. The Beirut /Algiers agreement to destroy the jewish state of Israel via
right of return is one heck of an offer.

As to approaching the UAE, that means approaching 7 people - and indeed if the UAE was totally profit driven - and did not have a terrorist hobby - Israel might have thought something could be done. Indeed you may recall that Bush told them to approach the UAE.

Man - what misinformation we try to plant.

:toast:
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:02 PM
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37. You may disagree with their criteria, nevertheless, pressuring Israel
by withholding recognition until peace is achieved is not unreasonable. As I'm sure you realize, any peace agreement will require negotiation. the UAE is not claiming it's up to them to determine the shape of the peace; that's up to the Palestinians and Israelis.

...and the stuff about a UAE "terrorist hobby" is truthy, not facty.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:12 PM
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42. 7 persons not only control the country - they control the books of
everything called "UAE"

The CIA says the money flows to terrorists have been traced to the 7.

As to what goes through DPW ports I grant you that it is the folks from India that do all the real work both in and out of the UAE - but again the CIA states that Khan use them to avoid the rules on giving atomic bombs away.

"terrorist hobby" was a bit over the top - sorry about that - I know of nothing that has folks in the UAE actually planning or trying to get others organized to plan a terrorist act.

But I am sorry more about Bush's payoff to them for their port/air permissions for our adventure in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:24 PM
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44. Could you please provide some links, papau?
There's an awful lot of misinformation floating around, and I think some of what you just posted may fall into that category too. We need to be so careful that we are using really impeccable sources and are also not repeating things that are badly out of context or out of date. I know I've read things that have a different perspective on what you've just written, but since you posted first, I'll let you go first in finding links, too.

I don't really know anything about a payoff, either. Do you have a link for that, too?

I do appreciate your retraction/apology about the "terrorist hobby" comment.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:02 PM
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50. Good Grief - "payoff" is my choice of a word to describe what I think I
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 11:05 PM by papau
see happening.

If you want a pdf of the contract between Saudi controlled/Bush41 affiliated Carlyle and Bush 43 and the UAE, I'll see if I can get it faxed to you! - smile now - that was said as light hearted joke!

As to finding links - glad to do so if you'd state what you need in a bit more detail.

The organization of the UAE among the 7 is in most books, as are discussions of the lack of books being kept in the UAE. Indeed Bush violated the US law's keep books in the US thought and agreed to be happy with access if needed to UAE notes being kept in the UAE. Now the Indian employees that are used by the 7 are top notch, and I am sure keep good books - indeed perhaps more than one set - but we will never know until it is "necessary" and we go over to the UAE (I understand this may change at any moment and we may get agreement to keep records in the US - but that is where we stood 48 hours ago). The fact that the statement "Security is not changing because it remains the responsibility of the Coast Guard" is bullshit - because the port operator is the real management behind what little security we have - the Coast Guard just lays down the plan - and approves the final plan - and notes that the plan is being "followed" - a factoid that has been in the US media (amazingly).

As to the CIA reports, they are in the 911 report and easily obtained.

I do not know what link you are having a problem finding - but I'll be glad to help.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:57 PM
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24. same percentage as women ruling Saudi Arabia
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:06 PM
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26. How many Jewish executives should be in the Dubai company?
And how many Hindus?

Zorastraians?

Rastafarians?

Silly question.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:03 PM
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38. There are MANY Hindus....
the majority of their employees are from India.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:38 PM
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46. And ever damned taxi driver in the city!
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:19 PM
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32. How many Dubai executives are there in Israeli companies? eom
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:06 PM
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40. You should ask, how Moslem executives are there in Israeli companies?
That would be the parallel question.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:12 PM
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41. On the contrary, I'm keeping the question relevant to the UAE.
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 10:27 PM by Wordie
Yours means little in the context of the UAE issue.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:34 PM
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45. Look at the original question.
It asked how many Jewish executives, not how many Israeli executives.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:12 PM
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51. Locking
These types of statements are not only inflammatory, but also highly inappropriate and counter productive to any useful discussion.

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