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cranston36 Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:16 AM
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Safe Newborn
The Washington State ‘Safe Newborn’ law has no statistics to go along with it.

If you want you can drop off your baby within three days of birth at any hospital and leave.
Kids in school that at one time could push their ignorant and aggressive boyfriends away with statements about using birth control and not wanting to end up with an abortion can now go ahead, expose themselves to sexually transmitted diseases, get pregnant, have the baby and hand it over to some public hospital.
What happens to that baby?
Is it adopted by religious groups or does it become the ‘ward of the state’?
It is a bizarre and sickening development that hospitals, which don’t even provide reasonably priced services for Americans, should now become foundling hospitals.
It is typical of our broken down government that they would pass a law like this without addressing the root causes of the problems.
In the end women that destroy their newborns will continue to do so because that is a situation that is far beyond the remedy provided by this ‘feel good’ law.
Children will go to bed hungry in Washington State and their parents will do without health care because doctors and hospitals are so greedy that they have priced themselves out of the market.
Insurance companies will continue to feed off the poor and the government will bow to them.
Add abandoning children without fear of retribution to the deep pool of sins that this society swims in.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:20 AM
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1. It's better than dumpsters!
That is why states have passed these laws.... too many babies thrown in the trash to die.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:23 AM
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2. cranston36 please read the rules for posting in LBN
and to DU!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:27 AM
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3. We have this law in Texas, too.
I think it helps prevent dumpster babies and infanticide. It seems like there are fewer reports of them now. Our law also allows drop-off at a fire station or other emergency facility, no questions asked.

I think another state has this and they once tried to find and prosecute the mother who left her baby at a qualified facility, but then they realized that prosecution defeated the purpose of the law.

It's a terrible shame that it has come to this. I would rather a woman get an early term abortion. But I think alot of the infanticide problems had to do with immature teens not wanting to believe they were pregnant until they gave birth, and others not considering it a real baby after giving birth, so they would toss it. In some cases, it may have to do with lack of availability of medical care or privacy, especially in smaller towns. It's a shame these pregnanies continue with a mom who obviously has no desire to become a parent.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:49 AM
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7. There was a tricky case in Texas
A woman with presumably her boyfriend came into the hospital
emergency room. She apparently had her baby while on the toilet
amd left him there. Someone found him in time and he's okay.

The hospital is a "safe haven" but I don't think that includes
the toilet.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:33 AM
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4. its a good law-esp when women (men) are desparate--the babe will
be safe.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:37 AM
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5. In Florida - it is any hospital or fire station:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:40 AM
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6. your lack of logic is simply stunning
enjoy your stay
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:50 AM
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8. Bingo.
And thank goodness women do have a place to drop off unwanted children, without getting arrested.

I know someone (family ties) who took his children to cps and he and his wife explained that they were coke addicts and abusive parents and they wanted to give up the children. They insisted they didn't want the kids. CPS refused to take them, and sent the parents to anger management classes instead. This is the CPS is Everett, WA, in the mid 90s. I know because it's a direct relative.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:56 AM
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9. So, saving the lives of a few newborns is 'bizarre and sickening' to you?
"It is a bizarre and sickening development that hospitals,
which don’t even provide reasonably priced services for Americans,
should now become foundling hospitals."

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:13 AM
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10. What is wrong with the "foundling hospital"
concept? It is better than dead in a garbage can somewhere.

It doesn't solve, or attempt to solve children going to bed hungry, or the high price of medical care. It attempts to solve one problem: abandoned children dying from exposure.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:00 PM
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11. you can't be serious.
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