List your favorite conservative myths here

[Rocknrule]

Saddam Hussein and Bill Clinton personally piloted all 4 planes on 9/11
Gays want special rights and/or have an agenda to take over the world and corrupt our blonde blue-eyed babies because they want to be treated like human beings
Clinton's affair opened the gates of hell and is responsible for everything from the crucifixion of Christ to 9/11
America was born out of George W. Bush's ass and if you hate him, you automatically hate America as well
Despite the fact that the whole world has gone to hell in the past 5 years, it would've been far worse if we had Gore or Kerry
The French suck because they won't just bend over and do whatever we tell them
George Bush is either God Himself in human form or God's messenger
Despite being the majority religion in America and having absolute control over the entire nation, Christians are persecuted because they aren't allowed to force their beliefs on everyone else

and my favorite
The media is liberal

[sabra]

1. George Bush won both elections

[UrbScotty]

8. Or he won AT LEAST ONE election (nt)

[LynneSin]

14. Trust me, he didn't win any of them

:D

[flamin lib]

2. Increasing the minimum wage will hurt poor people because

many will become unemployed.

[Iris]

9. Jobs that pay minimum wage are only temporary or entry level.

They were never meant to be jobs that people could actually make a living on.



(just to tag onto your post, flamin!)

[FreedomAngel82]

22. Rich corporations can do whatever they want with their company

because they give people jobs. So denying health care and a proper payment is fine and dandy.

[converted_democrat]

99. Poor people are poor because they're lazy..n/t

[roguevalley]

3. republicans care. republicans are human.

[wakeme2008]

4. Well the French do suck

:)

who was with the US for kicking Aristide out of Haiti. Once France was right but normally they are wrong IMHO...

[LizMoonstar]

41. how so? explain please? n/t

[stop the bleeding]

5. the earth is flat n/t

[Yollam]

Most people on welfare are black women...

who have 5 or more kids to get a bigger check, which they come pick up at the welfare office in a late-model Cadillac, then go buy cases of 40 oz. beer with their food stamps.

I think a lot of repukes actually believe this to be the norm.

They also think that about 30% or more of the federal budget is spent on welfare and food stamps, when it's really an almost insignificant amount.

[UrbScotty]

6. I was just gonna say 'liiberal media' - but let's not forget:

"Bush is a Christian"

Now, first of all, if you're not God, you have no business judging whetehr someone is Christian oro not. Second, about those Christian values (loving each other, helping the less fortunate, etc.)...

[BOSSHOG]

7. george bush is a christian who honorably served in the military

[Beacho]

10. Smelly Hippy Protestors Lost Us The Vietnam War

It would seem that they are ready to resurrect this lame trope

[ProfessorGAC]

64. Only The Smelly Ones Though

The hippy protestors that didn't smell weren't responsible. Trust me. It's true. Now, the smelly ones. . . Everyone knows you can't win a war that smelly hippies won't support.
The Professor

[liberal N proud]

11. Republicans are for National Security

Are you safer?

[boston bean]

12. the economy is doing great! nt

[MADem]

13. My favorite--the economy is booming/strong!!!

Everyone I know is feeling a pinch....some worse than others.

[MadMaddie]

15. All of the New Orleans victims were lazy and on gov support....

Why didn't the lazy welfare New Orleans victims have cars....

I really hate the Conservatives...I really, really do....

[Dogmudgeon]

16. Global Warming is bunk

It's just tough to lie in.

But not tough to lie about.

--p!

[FreedomAngel82]

17. The last two always make me sad

[happyslug]

We could have won Vietnam

If we just put in more men, dropped more bombs, or stop spending on the Space Program and/or war on poverty.

[yellowcanine]

18. Liberals want Iraq to blow up just so we can say nanny nanny poo poo

to George Bush.

[sui generis]

19. them homos

Gays are the downfall of western civilization
Gays choose to be shit on by the rest of the world because they're masochistic
Gays are hatched, out in the desert, far from family and friends, which they don't have.
Gays are perverts and try to convert kids to homosheckshulality at every opportunity
We know what's best for gays and by god that's what we're gonna make 'em uppity homos do.
Lesbians are not gay and therefore exempt, if they're pretty and feminine.

And #1: Gays get toaster ovens for preying upon and seducing unsuspecting god-fearing red-blooded heterosexuals.

(woops, my bad. #1 is actually true)

[davidinalameda]

51. toaster ovens?

please child-we're up to food processors!

[sui generis]

74. guess I haven't converted one in a while

dang, I also need a new Kitchen Aid stand mixer - I burned my last one out on the dough hook kneading dough like a mad leather queen on speed.

Is there a points catalogue or something?

[davidinalameda]

100. there is a catalogue

the Committee to Corrupt Youth and Break Up Marriages will get you one soon

[unblock]

20. that republicans actually love america

in truth they hate america, american principles, institutions, laws, people, etc.

they only love money, themselves, and a few rich people.

they don't even like the republican rank-and-file, they think their own members are suckers.

[underpants]

21. Individual RIGHT to bear arms-late term abortions-Schiavo- Iraq

Schiavo is my favorite by far. I knew nothing about it until that Friday afternoon and with in 2 hours (thanks DU) they whole thing was exposed as the exploitive contrived manufactured "issue" that it was. The resolution was never in doubt and the right flogged themselves into a made up argument with no one on the mythical other side.

[mymomwasright]

23. They hate us because we're free!

EOM

[Hardrada]

24. Unions make the US uncompetitive in the world market.

[LynneSin]

25. Bill & Hilary Clinton killed 50 people who 'opposed' him

I had a relative send me this doosy but she forgot to bcc: all the names so I hit "REPLY ALL" and countered with the truth that Clinton wasn't going around putting 'hits' on people who opposed him.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/clinton.htm

[DelawareValleyDem]

26. The ACLU is anti-religion

[patcox2]

Poor people are lazy.

Free markets regulate themselves.
Rich people made it through hard wark and merit.
Everyone has equal opportunity.
Whites can't get hired or into universities anymore because they give all the jobs to minorities under affirmative action.
We lost in Vietnam because the politicians wouldn't let the army do its job.
Prisons need to be tougher.
The death penalty deters crime.
Bush is honest, smart, and strong.

[Hardrada]

27. Liberals all want to kill babies.

[RobertSeattle]

28. Tax cuts lead to a better economy

There is no direct correlation - the economy is too complex and there are lots of other variables.

[RobertSeattle]

30. Competition leads to lower prices

Not necessarily so. Most of the time yes, but not in some industries.

[oscar111]

45. Cartels are what we have, not com;petition, most areas. Besides,

true competition would lead to downward race in prices, and all companies would fast go bankrupt.

Cartels.. business school oft talks of the "rule of three". Create a cartel of three, and the public will believe there is com;petition... when there is not.

"Whenever corporatists gather , they fix prices"... who said that?

[RobertSeattle]

52. Yep

Isn't there an old study where the MORE doctors you have the higher total medical costs are because all the doctors think they deserve to make big bucks? (Fewer patients means charge more per patient!) (Probably true for lawyers too)

Capitalism does the darndest things.

[oscar111]

46. self delete

true competition would lead to downward race in prices, and all companies would fast go bankrupt.

Cartels.. business school oft talks of the "rule of three". Create a cartel of three, and the public will believe there is com;petition... when there is not.

"Whenever corporatists gather , they fix prices"... who said that?

[oscar111]

47. dup, sorry

Subject: Cartels are what we have, not com;petition, most areas. Besides,
Message:
true competition would lead to downward race in prices, and all companies would fast go bankrupt.

Cartels.. business school oft talks of the "rule of three". Create a cartel of three, and the public will believe there is com;petition... when there is not.

"Whenever corporatists gather , they fix prices"... who said that?

[oscar111]

39. Wages now lower than in 'eighty. That refutes trickledown. Also

Hoover's trickledown caused the Great Depression.. is another great refutation of trickledown claims.

[Hardrada]

29. College profs are mostly commies and brainwash students..

[oscar111]

31. LAZY JOBLESS, "not enough money for that X"

these two are refuted in my sig.. .. well, correction..
the first one is.. the second one is refuted in DEMOPEDIA, page Capitol

Demopedia link is at the bottom of this page, i think. in Demopedia, click link to 'all pages" in its lame list of pages.

[Hardrada]

32. Get a good biz or computer tech job

and you'll be set for life.

[smtpgirl]

33. Walmart

can't afford health insurance for their employees

[Hardrada]

34. Dirty hippies spat on Troops back from Viet Nam.

[oscar111]

35. REFUTE them too, posters. Give your short snappy refutations

we need short replies to win

[Hardrada]

36. Hollyweird is pretty much queers and commies

and Jews like New York is too.

[Rocknrule]

37. God is a Republican and voted for Bush

[meegbear]

38. Reagan's "Tear down this wall" speech is why the wall came down ...

and communism ended.

[Hardrada]

40. The bigger your SUV, the greater you are!

And patriotic magnetic ribbons prove this all the more!

[Rocknrule]

43. In actuality,

The bigger your SUV, the smaller your penis

[raccoon]

42. If you don't have insurance, it's your own fault.

(seriously, I heard a moran say that once.)

Never mind that many jobs don't offer it, some people can't get individual policies because of pre-existing conditions--Conservatives don't want to clutter up their mind with such trivia.

[Hardrada]

44. A lot of public schoolteachers have gay and athiest agendas

and brainwash our kids.

[helderheid]

48. Liberal media

:rofl:

[Lexingtonian]

49. Saint Ronnie won the Cold War

That's the most putrid one. It's such a friggin' insult to Jimmy Carter.

Carter and Helmut Schmidt ruined the one remaining significant Soviet military attack plan on the West in 1977 by deciding to put those mobile Pershing 2s along the Rhine. The Soviet High Command never recovered the strategic initiative.

[0rganism]

75. Yeah, that's one of my personal faves

I love the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" reasonings they pull out of their asses to defend it, too. It's just impossible for some of them to grasp that Reagan's "success" was due to an overdetermined situation that had been in the works for 40-some years. Hell, Usama bin Laden & Al Qaeda ops in Afghanistan had more to do with the collapse of the USSR than St. Raygun's atrocious defense budget.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

50. "Trickle down economics" is good for you.

[Hardrada]

53. Fluoridation poisons our precious bodily fluids.

(Some people around here still believe that).

[Hardrada]

54. Liberals, especially Hitlery Clinton, want to take our guns away!

[Hardrada]

55. If you elect Catholic presidents, the Pope

will fly right over and take over the US. (My aunt and uncle subscribed to that one).

[Odin2005]

56. "Ronnie won the Cold War" -No, the Poles did.

"Tax cuts are good for the economy" -if that was true why did we have the long period of growth in the 50's and 60's when the top tax braket was over 70%?
"Poor people are lazy" -BLAMING THE VICTIM ALERT!
"Capitalism = Democracy" -Cold War propaganda

[Hardrada]

57. A Democrat Administration is weak on defense.

Used to "soft on communism."

[MrBenchley]

58. More guns = less crime...

"We" (hahahahahaha) would have won in Viet Nam except for the damn hippies at home...

[me b zola]

59. 1) The US is a christian nation founded on christian principles

...it is not and was not.

2) The "troops" voted for bush*
...we don't know who they voted for because the results were never made public (as they usually are).

3) The "troops" all (or overwhelmingly) support the idiot king's war on Iraq.
...Well, for the 1st time the US military in Iraq has been polled and they OVERWHELMINGLY say (72%) that they should all leave Iraq within the year. 29% of that 72% say that they should withdraw IMMEDIATLY from Iraq.

4) Most people are anti-choice.
...The majority of Americans, including a large number of pubs, are in favor of choice.

[doc03]

60. If you cut taxes the revenues go up, so if we did

away with all taxes we could save SS and have national health care pay off the deficit hell we would have so damn much money we couldn't spend it all.

[doc03]

61. Fox News is fair and balanced

[HughBeaumont]

62. Offshoring Jobs is GOOD for the middle class, and don't you forget it!

A rising tide lifts all yachts.
Economics 101.
The Indian Middle class will buy American brand products, in turn employing more Americans.
American workers will just have to re-train. Re-training is the solution to everything.

[DelawareValleyDem]

63. There's a war on Christmas nt

[grateful581]

65. compassionate conservatism

What the hell is that? :shrug:

[iconoclastNYC]

66. Cutting taxes raises Goverment Revenue

[iconoclastNYC]

67. Raisng the min wage reduces employment

[iconoclastNYC]

68. Cutting defense spending reduces national security

[iconoclastNYC]

69. Immigration causes unemployment

[oblivious]

70. Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

[fknobbit]

71. All Ex military tyoes

Running for public office are liars, malingers and dishonorably wounded, if they have a purple heart or missing limbs.

[DanCa]

72. You can't be a christian unless your pro life

I really get angry with this. I can't see the prince of peace throwing stones at women, and forcing them to carry a rapist baby to term. But at the same time I don't know who Jesus would bomb either.

[Dora]

73. Health coverage for everyone

means that you'll die of lockjaw because you had to wait four weeks to see the gov'ment doc.

Sure as shootin'.

[oscar111]

76. REFUTE each, please. Posters, we also need refutations, not just

a list of RW mottos.
Make this thread into a debate handbook

I did a few.. look up the thread for my handle in the column of posters

[Dora]

103. Yes sir!

:)

[mariema]

77. That Bush was an astute

businessman who earned his success by hard work.
(according to my BIL)

[GreenPartyVoter]

78. "A rising tide lifts all boats"

[immoderate]

79. Bill Clinton invented oral sex.

And teenagers never knew about it before then.

--IMM

[Hardrada]

91. And that's why we were forced to explain it to our

young teen daughters and it was all because of Clinton.

[cascadiance]

80. We don't have inflation now...

Stuff is cheaper at Wal-Mart, etc. so therefore we don't have inflation (discounting of course WHY things are cheaper and poorer quality at Wal-Mart), and totally ignoring the rise in prices of housing and other areas at a pace that's well ahead the rate of average persons' salary increases.

[Skittles]

81. that Reagan was a great leader who ended the Cold War

pure hogwash

[Hardrada]

82. Why do other countries in the world want to be like us then?

[sheelz]

83. Conservatism is a myth!

[Hardrada]

84. Bush talks to God directly and vice versa.

[Initech]

85. Bush was appointed by god

And there fore he feels that he has to perform god's duty while in the White House. :puke:

[Viking12]

86. The Gay Agenda

and it corollary, Gay Marriage will destroy hetero-marriage and thus society at large.

[Hardrada]

87. Liberals are really traitors and execution would help them.

[Hardrada]

88. Al Gore couldn't tell the truth if he tried.

[Hardrada]

89. Democrat vet candidates are really cowards

no matter how many limbs they lost. (How did the repugs ever get away with that one?)

[timtom]

90. How about...

"We 'conservatives' have a right to speak our opinion."

Now, THERE's a myth!

[Hardrada]

92. Quick, with your refutation of this!

[timtom]

95. Actually, maybe they DO have a right...

(as all Americans....no, I'm sorry!) If freepers support the * cabal in ANY, they have committed treason and have abnegated their rights!

And this is not sarcasm on my part, this time. I really feel that way.
I really want to be fair-minded here, but ....

It's kind of like if anybody ever saw "Some Like it Hot", there was a scene with Nehemiah Persoff as Little Bonaparte, on finding out that Curtis and Lemmon escaped again, says

"You mean...you let them get away......TWICE!!!???"

"yOU mean...you voted for this piece of shit......TWICE!!!!!????"
(end of rant)

[Rocknrule]

98. I love that movie

And yes, whenever I watch that scene, that's the mental connection I draw

[stevietheman]

93. Republicans support a free market

Nope, what they support is global corporatism mostly lorded over by a global oligarchy.

[mitchum]

94. If all the wealth was redistributed, the same people would have it...

again in 5 years due to their natural acumen
Sure...of course...
I have helped too many trust fund idiots deplete their $$$$ to buy this goddamn canard.

[Loge23]

96. Less government

This is one of their biggest jokes.
Have we ever seen more government than what we have now?
The hated "government" of the conservatives has all but completely taken over our country.

[Sabriel]

97. You can do anything you want if you just work hard enough

Alternatively, it's "You can pick yourself up by your bootstraps and succeed."

[adwon]

101. Amway is a great model of American capitalism

Figured I'd be original .:P

Oh, another: Falwell and Robertson are men of God.

[Cleita]

102. From the daddy beast's own website, The Heritage Foundation.

http://www.heritage.org/about/

Our Mission

Founded in 1973, The Heritage Foundation is a research and educational institute - a think tank - whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

Free enterprise?
Limited government?
Individual freedom?
Traditional American values?
A strong national defense?

Haven't they failed or not delivered on any of their mission?