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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:00 PM
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Lou Dobbs is now must see
he's ripping Chimpy already :D
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:02 PM
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1. Can't wait.....
Thanks for the headsup!!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:03 PM
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2. I'm watching
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 06:03 PM by w8liftinglady
now talking about frist and snowe arguing over the port deal
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:04 PM
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3. Snowe has a thick New England accent
I was never aware of it.

Not that there's anything wrong with it :D

It's endearing :D
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:05 PM
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6. She's a Maine-er alright!
And ripping Bu$h up the ass as good as Susan Collins.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:03 PM
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90. self delete - wrong thread
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 07:05 PM by radio4progressives
self delete
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:04 PM
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4. Woohoo!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

He's about ready to blow!

Peace.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:05 PM
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5. schumer-anonymous sources had concerns-
weren't listened to by homeland security
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:08 PM
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13. says Coast Guard can not find document. Was this the 'internal review"
doc?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:06 PM
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7. nelson-"the review takes place after transaction"
what purpose does that serve?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:07 PM
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9. I know---this came out a few days ago but Frist shugged it off!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:07 PM
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8. Dobbs says, regardless of the review
the deal is going forward.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:07 PM
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10. Lou your wrong: Could it be the Dems are protesting because they honestly
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 06:08 PM by IsItJustMe
believe it's against our interest rather than trying to make political hay

I'm not stupid and some of this goes on but why the complete cynicism Lou.

Had a feeling it would come down to this for Lou.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:16 PM
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20. Yeah...I am sick of the "political advantage" meme n/t
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:07 PM
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11. dana bash-pres stated my position hasn't changed
despite fact that the review hasn't taken place yet
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:08 PM
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12. angered ranking repubs-
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:09 PM
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14. So the deal IS going through on thursday.
Jesus. You'd think they would at least make an small effort to give the appearance that they cared what anybody thinks? Arrogant Fucks.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:39 PM
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42. If the curreent owner (Brit company) says yes.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:10 PM
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15. dobbs -any concern that this obviously political maneuver
amounts to practically nothing after the transaction occurs
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:11 PM
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16. do any powerful,republican members believe * is acting w/condescention
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:34 PM
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93. Heard Trent Lott saying that nt
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:12 PM
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17. dobbs-cfius requires full investigation
cfius has rejected 1 deal after reviewing 15,000
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:14 PM
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18. multiple lawsuits-port authority not consulted
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:15 PM
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19. what NY times and washington journal left out of op/ed columns
after commercial :)
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:19 PM
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21. 155,000 union dock workers say the port deal is a bad deal
longshoreman holding rallies across the nation.
west coast union leaders complaining about port security since 9/11
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:20 PM
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22. a lot of freight and passengers not screened
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:22 PM
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23. Bush nominated david sanborn,from dpw,for cabinet position
the day after cfius approved the dpw sale
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:23 PM
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Wall Street Journal & NYTImes stories co-written by same guy!
The Democrats need to stop playing fair. I don't know what that means but you can't get to the truth with this shit going on.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:23 PM
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24. Zogby is coming up
to talk about the racism angle....
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:23 PM
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25. zogby to be on re:charges of ethnic bigotry
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:24 PM
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26. Lou is on fire tonight. He has had it.
He is just doing a great job of rejecting the Bush Kool-Aid. And I for one applaud him, no matter how much heat he gets here for lack of ideological purity.

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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:24 PM
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27. Man-he covered a lot of territory in 23 minutes
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:26 PM
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28. Vote in his poll tonight. Here's the link.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:28 PM
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30. done!
Do you have confidence that the 45-day review of the ports deal will be intensive and thorough and the outcome based solely on the national security interests of the United States?

Yes 4% 30 votes

No 96% 766 votes
Total: 796 votes

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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:31 PM
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33. done
Do you have confidence that the 45-day review of the ports deal will be intensive and thorough and the outcome based solely on the national security interests of the United States?

Yes 4% 30 votes

No 96% 766 votes
Total: 796 votes
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:37 PM
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39. done
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:38 PM
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41. Running 96%-4% no confidence
What is this now? 3 or 4 days running where Lou's polls have had such a huge gap between the two choices? I'll tell you, if Bush pushes this thing through, there WILL be hell to pay.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:41 PM
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46. 97 -3 now
Do you have confidence that the 45-day review of the ports deal will be intensive and thorough and the outcome based solely on the national security interests of the United States?

Yes 3% 49 votes

No 97% 1382 votes
Total: 1431 votes
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:58 PM
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83. It's either 97 or 98%.. I clicked once and it said 98, and I clicked to
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 07:02 PM by converted_democrat
check it again and it went to 97%...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:26 PM
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29. This country owns only 230 ships out of 10,000???
Holy crap. We're poor.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:29 PM
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31. Did they just say 2%?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:29 PM
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32. That's what he said.
:(
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:56 PM
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80. No Maritime Industry is a biggie
I'm glad Dobbs is finally talking about this because it has bothered me since the beginning. We don't have a port operator who could compete for this kind of deal. But more than that, we no longer having shipping. Why? Well, I've thought about this and have decided that it has to do with labor costs. (shocked? hell no) When I worked with insuring longshoremen (anyone working on/near the water) the rate for their coverage was the highest in the nation. Really high.

This definitely leaves us open because we are a country that imports so many of our vital goods, including food, clothing, heavy equipment, in fact, nearly everything. In a crisis, if there was a demand for shipping, we are fucked. Big Time.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:34 PM
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Why? Is there no money in it?
I know a little about how international shipping is done, but just from the buyers viewpoint. I have no idea about profits etc. I wonder why the US got out of the ocean freight business?????
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:38 PM
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40. and we pay foreign ships to fly our flag.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:34 PM
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34. Collins saying Bush learned of transaction by watching televsion.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:34 PM
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35. BushCo sees it as a 'communication problem"
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:46 PM
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57. Well that seems to be his standard operation procedure ....
now doesn't it? Did you see this post rodeodance .... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x540190

he's seeing it all on TV .... and he never knows ANYTHING. The guys is an ignorant scary liar. Tell me he's really not still the President and this is just a very long nightmare? Peace. :)
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:34 PM
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36. "treasury dept has assured me that this time it will be in depth review"
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 06:35 PM by w8liftinglady
and the Dubai company will abide by any decisions-also president has the option to veto sale.
"president has surprised me by threatening to veto any legislation to block this sale"-susan collins
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:35 PM
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37. maybe Blair will block the transaction?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:36 PM
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38. Collins saying NO one from Intell sitting on committee (but lots of WH sta
ff)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:41 PM
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45. That's a pretty telling statement. 'this time' !
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:50 PM
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66. it sure is---good catch.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:40 PM
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43. Dobbs poll link
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:40 PM
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44. Zogby on.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:42 PM
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49. This is not about racism for cryin' out loud.
Zogby just muddies the water.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:44 PM
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54. Lou is quite upset by that--says it is a distraction
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:41 PM
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47. Lou says: Just because the administration says its OK, SURE.............
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 06:43 PM by IsItJustMe
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:43 PM
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50. lou saying we have serious issues--and you talk of Arab bigotry.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:44 PM
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53. dobbs-only the lunatic fringe would find any kind of bigotry ok
"do you really think this conversation adds anything to the debate"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:42 PM
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48. here is question 97% say NO,

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
QUICKVOTE
Do you have confidence that the 45-day review of the ports deal will be intensive and thorough and the outcome based solely on the national security interests of the United States?
Yes
No
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:44 PM
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51. I like Zogby, but I want Lou to rip his throat out
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:45 PM
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55. Lou's coming close to ripping his throat out!
Thanks Lou, kick him in the Ba*lls!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:45 PM
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56. lou is ripping :)
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:47 PM
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61. Arab is not the issue.
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 06:51 PM by Xap
If Indonesians or Nigerians had done 9/11 or had close associations with those who did then Americans would be wary of an Indonesian or Nigerian company taking over the ports or other infrastructure.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:58 PM
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84. Zogby is right about his remarks.. people are conflating two different
issues -- national security and ethnic bigotry.

Zogby is right about the ethnic bigotry and it is dispicable. but it also so typical of Americans. Our entire socio-economic and political history is based on White Supremacist attitudes on all matters concerning America. We use racism and bigotry to foment hate to justify and support all sorts of enteriprises, economic or military dominance.

That has nothing to do with the principles of port security. Or at least it should not have anything to do with matters of national security..

Lou Dobbs is extremely defensive on that point because he




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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:44 PM
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52. Go Lou! No bigorty where national security is concerned! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:46 PM
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58. still 97% says no-2nd review
Do you have confidence that the 45-day review of the ports deal will be intensive and thorough and the outcome based solely on the national security interests of the United States?
Yes
No
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:47 PM
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60. boy Lou is sure upset with Zogby
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:46 PM
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59. i wish zogby were more outraged about gitmo
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:48 PM
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63. Didn't bush throw the first salvo on the race card? --i think he was one
of the first.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:01 PM
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88. who says he isn't?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:47 PM
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62. Someone needs to point out that blivet** has spent 5 years
telling the country to be afraid of brown skinned people from desert countries ... what does Zogby expect?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:48 PM
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64. beat me to it!!
Sydnie, we're on a mind meld here!!

Took the words right out of my mouth!!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:57 PM
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81. CatWoman
We ROCK!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:49 PM
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65. yes, and Lou should have thrown that fact at him.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:50 PM
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67. Only so much time. Lou did a good job! I can just imagine Zogby
really wanting to come back!!!!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:00 PM
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87. You actually support what Dobbs just did?
please tell me i'm misunderstanding something here..
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:29 PM
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91. Uhhh, I don't understnad the question.. What do you think he just
did that I should feel is wrong?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:51 PM
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68. 3 commetators on now. (wonder if Lous BP is down a bit from the zogby
thing)?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:51 PM
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69. quest says Washington is blowing up over this issue.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:52 PM
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70. talking of how bushs terror card is losing (polls)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:53 PM
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73. host saying Rupugs saying it does not seem WH cares that they are up
for re-election.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:52 PM
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72. ....and Bush* leaves town.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:55 PM
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77. and requires 5000 people to keep him safe where he has gone!
That speaks volumes about this administration. Clinton and Kerry both went and no one tried to kill them!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:58 PM
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82. They better do a good job or it's President Cheney.Make that 10,000
:scared:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:59 PM
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86. Loved the comment:: Frist popularity been going down ever since
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 07:00 PM by IsItJustMe
he diagnosed TERRY SHRIVO via video tape
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Texacrat Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:52 PM
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71. He'll go back to ranting about them illegal Mexicants in a couple of weeks
Sorry, I have no respect for that racist Lou Dobbs. A broken clock is still right twice a day.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:54 PM
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74. Quest saying it does not seem that Dems are picking up the slack-or only
a little.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:55 PM
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76. saying many not following Frist/WH
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:55 PM
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78. said Frist going downhill since he diagnozed Teri S via video tape.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:56 PM
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79. one of quests said Sen. Collins was pulling no punches (against WH).
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:54 PM
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75. I don't want illegals here either! I can't imagine why you would!
If there's a problem with the immigration process, fix it, but illegals from anywhere just shouldn't be allowed to stay here!
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:01 PM
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89. Right on. Time to stop this foolishness
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:59 PM
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85. 98% now say no in his poll
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:32 PM
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92. Lou is terrific!...But once again there is always inaction.
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