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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:38 AM
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'Critical danger' warning on fish
Deep sea fish species in the northern Atlantic are on the brink of extinction, new research suggests.

Canadian scientists studied five deep water species including hake and eel.

Writing in the journal Nature, they say that some populations have plummeted by 98% in a generation, meeting the definition of 'critically endangered'.

Scientists and conservation bodies are pressing for a global moratorium on deep-sea fishing which they regard as particularly destructive.

Before and after pics of sea floor trawling



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4581428.stm


methinks it's time to eliminate some fishing jobs.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:43 AM
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1. Kind of rough on the people who have those jobs
Just saying.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:44 AM
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3. Oh well
Same thing was said when electricity eliminated the need for town lamp-lighters.

Kill the oceans, or keep a handful of jobs. I'm gonna go with the oceans, every time.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:45 AM
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4. Only, they will have no jobs soon no matter what.
We've eaten all the fish in the sea.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:57 PM
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14. actually, that kind of fishing is rough on the people who
used to be fisherman. small operators have been driven out.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:44 AM
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2. Remember Orange Roughy?
It wasn't until they had almost been fished out that we realized that they grow very slowly, and that most of the orange roughy we were eating were fish that were older than we were!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:45 AM
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5. and then there's caviar
rapidly going extinct because the eggs don't even get laid :eyes:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:47 AM
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6. And the eggs are the only edible part!
I recall reading that beluga sturgeon are a mass of tiny bones...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:48 AM
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7. I haven't eaten 'em since learning they might have been 100
Poor old things!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:49 AM
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8. Some maybe as old as 150!
Lately I am eating only farm raised fish. And yes, I realize there are problems with that, too.
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:13 AM
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9. Too many people to feed.
It's the snow ball effect, more people, need more food, more energy expended to get to an ever dwindling supply, more carbon in the atmosphere, more heat on earth and weather patterns change and old food sources move or shrivel up and die. So as we scramble for the last bits at the table, I think that mother nature will take care of the problem herself. Didn't Illinois loose 80% of it's corn crop last year, could be the start of a new dust bowl.


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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 12:05 PM
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10. Seriously, there needs to be mandatory controls on fertility nt
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:59 PM
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16. nah, just educate kids
especially girls. birth rate halves in less than 15 years. and all you really have to do to get girls in school is fund school lunches. if they are fed, their parents will send them, instead of keeping them home to work. seriously. it works.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:53 PM
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13. Some imbecile was calling me out for advocating zero population growth,
if you can even fucking believe that -- on this web site.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:59 PM
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15. Nonsense. As long as we eat domesticated meat ...
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 07:03 PM by TahitiNut
... we're consuming the amount of food acreage that'd feed six or seven people. Cattle, pigs, and sheep are HUGELY inefficient as sources of human food. If, instead of raising crops to feed livestock for human consumption we were to instead raise crops for human consumption, we'd feed far more people.

In 1988-89, about 67 percent of all oats consumed as grain in the United States, both on and off farm, was livestock feed. Food and seed uses claimed most of the remainder, about 22 percent and 11 percent, respectively. Exports were insignificant.

The food/population problem is one of distribution, not volume. And I'm a guy that loves his steaks and chops.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:47 PM
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11. and not just that -- 100 years of heavy metals, pesticides, etc.
Bet you there's a lot of nasty stuff built up in them, over the decades!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:52 PM
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12. Anybody else know how to recommend for greatest?
Congratulations, your planet is dying.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 07:02 PM
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17. the oceans will be entirely dead within 100 years
The free-goods an infinite public common won't survive the greedy hunger
of the next 3 billion *more* persons added to the US population.

So go scuba diving THIS lifetime... snorkeling and visiting those lovely
fish that will be extinct by your next incarnation.

9 billion persons will kill this planet... no matter what sunshine blows
from the assholes of optimistic politicians who say the planet could hold
22 billion people... assholes.
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