Fred (Totally F@#$#D-up) Phelps happy about miner's deaths

[BR_Parkway]

is there anything this scumbag won't blame on us homos?

http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2006/01/westboro_contin.html

Following up on their initial mine tragedy-based deity thanking, the "fag-hating" folks at Westboro Baptist have today released a new missive expressing gratitude to "the man upstairs" for the tragic deaths of the twelve miners. Announcing that they will picket the victims' funerals, the WBC nuts say

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. faith based insanity at its finest.

I wonder why no one has considered removing the kids from the home. Clearly they are not fit and able parents.

[atommom]

21. Fred's own kids are adults now, but there are reports of horrific

child abuse when they were younger. I doubt the grandkids are faring much better.

[FreedomAngel82]

54. The BBC had a great documentary on him once

Someone posted it a good while back and it was very interesting and scary. A BBC reporter snuck a camera inside his "church" and it's pretty much family.

[FreedomAngel82]

53. Does make you wonder

I do know Christian's who think he's insane too. Same with Pat Robertson. Why hasn't anybody looked into him?

[WoodrowFan]

84. they're ALL lawyers

seriously, not only is Fred a lawyer, but he made his kids(and now grandkids) go to law school. they drop so many lawsuits on you you'll never see daylight again. makes the local government a bit nervous to touch them.

[I Have A Dream]

2. Just when you think they can't possibly say something more...

disgusting than they've already said, they are happy to prove us wrong. Sick, sick people...
x(

[InsultComicDog]

109. Full pic

[Initech]

3. That piece of shit needs a reality check.

First off, I dont know what sick god Phelps worships (which is probably the almighty dollar).

Second, no one worships a movie or a FICTIONAL book.

[txindy]

4. Oh, for pity's sake.

Phelps and his mongrel followers are the ones who are a shame and disgrace. Remember the 'Clockwork Orange' scene when McDowell was forced to watch film while his eyelids were pinned open? Just punishment for Phelps would be having him in that position watching 'Brokeback Mountain' for a year or five. It's a great movie, it'll withstand the horror of being seen by slime.

[MuseRider]

5. Well of course.

There is nothing so wonderful to Fred than the chance to get some more press. Anyone else think that maybe the miners won't put up with this?

[TNOE]

17. Ha Good Point

Fred might just be messing with the wrong people in WVA. These guys all have guns and carry them around in their pick up trucks. But I must admit, I would love to see them take Fred on.

[theHandpuppet]

Mountaineers would open up a can of whoop ass on Phelps and his clan

And it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of hateful scum.

[BrotherBuzz]

80. In my perfect world...

The Mountaineers with the guns sit on the sideline while the competent and capable grieving widows serve up that can of whoop ass.

[MountainLaurel]

87. Indeed

There's enough men in that area who spent time as sharpshooters in Vietnam because they've been shooting since they were kids that someone could pick him off from the hills and be halfway to Charleston not long later.

[FreedomAngel82]

56. I'd love to see that fight

I'd love to see ANYone get to Phelps. He's a sick bastard.

[Mad_Dem_X]

85. I hope some of them

confront Phelps if/when he goes to the funerals. He is a sick bastard.

[mongo]

89. They don't need their guns

to give Fred a good ol' ass whooping....

[Sadie5]

6. This guy is a nut case

He should be arrested and his church closed down. Talk about a terr-a-ist!

[DRoseDARs]

7. Knew they'd find some reason to take a dump on these bodies. nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. The people in that little town will tar and feather the protestors

and run them out with guns a blazing!

:popcorn:

[BR_Parkway]

11. Apparently he doesn't have the courage in his Almighty to protect

him - doesn't appear to have the gonads to actually go to the area of the mining community and say this to their faces - only from a distant website.

[Contrary1]

9. Here's a link to the entire flyer:

I have no words.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jan2006/20060104_twelve-dead-miners.pdf

[Initech]

24. Wow. I have no words either.

Except that Fred Phelps is already garnering for this year's biggest douche in the universe award.

[KamaAina]

68. He's already been inducted into the Biggest Douche Hall of Shame.

and thus, is now ineligible for the puny annual awards.

The early leader for 2006 is Tucker "Canada is like your retarded cousin that you see at Thanksgiving" Carlson.

[Initech]

82. 2005 winner, no contest was Bill O'Reilly.

Even ol' Phelps couldnt hold a candle to the falafel master in terms of sheer idiocy this year!

Although I'd also say that CNN is definately an early contender for 2006 for the coal miner incident.

[Left Is Write]

41. Every time I see a Fred Phelps flyer...

I hear it in my head being read by Carrie White's mother.

[Sydnie]

46. I sent the flyer off to Olbermann

Only fair to give the miners a heads up that they will have more uninvited guests, isn't it?

[SW FL Dem]

47. I knew that man was sick but this left me speechless

I hope the residents of West Virginia give the protesters the welcome they deserve if they actually show up at the miners' funerals.

[FreedomAngel82]

57. Yes

Haven't these people been through enough?

[RebelOne]

78. After loading the PDF file, it comes up blank.

[truth2power]

99. Whatever in hell is he talking about??

That flyer makes no sense. What did the miners have to do with gays??

Gawdalmighty! Whatta nutcase! :crazy:

[FlaGranny]

10. You know, I don't really think

Fred wants to mess with West Virginia coal miners.

[Dhalgren]

19. I think you're right.

If Phelps and his phools show up at any of these miners' funerals, they'll get killed. I mean, really killed. These miner-folks don't mess with anyone and they don't allow anyone to mess with them. Hell, the "authorities" even had SWAT teams present during the "rescue" for fear of the families reactions! Yeah, Phred, it's a real good idea to crash these folks' funerals...

[Sydnie]

22. Amazing -- they will go Fried Green Tomatos on this guy

He'll be served up as barbeque and no one will tell!


He really doesn't want to mess with these people. they already feel they have nothing to lose, they will treat him like a scab and he won't know what hit him.

As sad as it sounds, I hope he does go there. It might be just the event to bring his wicked ways to light, a la Schiavo for the Congress.

[sui generis]

35. Towandaaaaaaaa!!!!!

that is all.

[peacetalksforall]

12. The miners died in shame and disgrace? Does that mean anyone who

dies on the job, dies in shame and disgrace?

Don't you just love a religion that spreads so much hate?

It's time to come up with separate words to define Christianity in the U.S.

[gratuitous]

31. In Phelps' mind

In Phelps' mind, from that I can discern, any tragedy, any disaster is God's ongoing vengeance against the country as a whole for its ungodly ways. Fred Phelps' God is a sociopath along the lines of the nutball who says, "Be my best friend or I'll kill you." Needless to say, it's not the sort of God that any sane person would want to be associated with.

But because he dresses up his dementia in the language of religion, folks are reluctant to take him on. Phelps alone, in his mind, is godly; Phelps and his followers only, are to be spared the wrath from above, that just brimming over waiting to be poured out at any moment. He's a cult leader and his followers are merely pawns for his delusions. There is nothing in his "gospel" that anyone outside his compound would recognize as containing love or compassion. For Phelps, God's love is solely reserved for the folks who have earned it, and the only compassion available is how harshly God will punish those who don't toe the line as drawn by Phelps in Phelps' sole discretion.

[Marie26]

103. It sounds more like a hate group thinly disguised as a "church". nt

[Ladyhawk]

52. How about unChristianity?

I've never seen so many folks call themselves the opposite of what they really are.

[FreedomAngel82]

61. Exactly

He's doing that so people will pay attention to him.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. Don't start that again

Please actually know what real Christian's are about and people like Phelps and Robertson and "wolves in sheep clothing" are about. I as a liberal and a Christian find that offensive. Christian's need to get back to what's important to Christian's and what Jesus actually talked about: helping those less fortunate, enviornment, elderly, etc. Not gay people and abortion.

[Bill McBlueState]

74. it's great, isn't it?

When the religion's founder says, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword," it's surprising Phelps hasn't graduated from picketing and making webpages to more violent means. What a violent bunch.

[BR_Parkway]

91. KKKristianity, to point out the hatred and bigotry behind it vs actual

Christianity, based on Christ's teachings of peace, love and forgiveness.

[peacetalksforall]

101. Excellent! KKKristianity Christianity. n/t

[leeroysphitz]

13. This guy is the WORST kind of attention WHORE... n/t

[onenote]

14. y'know, if Fred believes were in the "end times" I wish he'd just

throw himself off a cliff (followed by his loyal flock) and get it over with already.

He really is nutty beyond words.

onenote

[Ezlivin]

15. He's a kickass shepherd to his sheep

I guess.

:shrug:

And his followers must be sheep. Could real humans believe this shit?

[wtmusic]

They picket soldier's funerals???

"WBC to picket funeral of Army First Sgt. Tobias C. Meister - at 10 a.m., Friday Jan. 6, at First Baptist Church leper colony, 205 E. A St., Jenks, Oklahoma. Killed by IED - like the IED America used to bomb Westboro Baptist Church, in a vain terroristic attempt to silence our anti-gay Gospel preaching."

Sick. Truly sick.

[Zenlitened]

16. But but but... he's entitled to his religious beliefs, isn't he?

By criticizing him, aren't we all just religion-bashing?

:sarcasm:

[Bill McBlueState]

75. no!

Phelps is not a true Scotsman Christian, so we can bash him all we want.

[Zenlitened]

76. LOL!

:spray:

[Warren DeMontague]

18. That dude won't be happy

until every living being on this planet can't stand his sorry, sick ass.

[Texasgal]

20. I'm sorry... I amVERY confused...

What does homosexulaity have to do with the 12 miners?

Am I missing part of this story?

[ieoeja]

28. They are citizens of a country that ...

... legalized homosexuality in 1969. God is punishing them for their country's failing in this regard.

[AntiCoup2K4]

32. The mine was really the cover for the biggest gay bar in the Appalachians.

That's why "God" sent the poisonous gas down in the first place.

:sarcasm:

And yes, I just entirely made all of that up. Just like Phelps does his fucked up doctrine.

[Contrary1]

34. No. You are not.

Fred and his followers believe that every disaster that occurs, natural, or caused by man, is punishment
for homosexuality.

The victims don't have to be homosexual, but since they are not a member of Fred's F#&ked-Up Flock,
they obviously condone it, and thus; are deserving of their fate.

[FreedomAngel82]

63. So why hasn't Canada had anything bad??

:shrug: They have gay marriage and nothing bad has happened to them.

[MindPilot]

104. You need to catch up on christian theology...

The United States and Israel are God's lands. He doesn't give a shit about any place else.

[jmowreader]

108. Beg to differ...

http://www.godhatessweden.com

Apparently, there was a Phelps-like "preacher" in Sweden. Sweden is unlike the United States; Sweden won't put up with Phelps-like asshats. So, they arrested the guy on charges of inciting hatred. (In Sweden, Bibles aren't Get Out of Jail Free cards the way they are in Bush's America.)

Phelps actually flew to Sweden to kill the king over this. He did not succeed.

Of course, if he HAD succeeded, this is who would have replaced him:



Crown Princess Victoria is kind, friendly and probably even less tolerant of Phelps' bullshit than the King.

[Left Is Write]

39. Nothing.

Fred Phelps is certifiably insane.

[FlaGranny]

55. Nothing to do with the miners - everything to

do with Fred Phelps. Fred hates everything and every body, I guess including coal miners who die on the job.

[Beelzebud]

when Phelps dies, i'm protesting his funeral.

I'm not even kidding.

I'm making huge signs that say GOD HATES FRED.

I think we should all do this when this piece of shit finally dies.

[ieoeja]

27. Protesting it?

Shouldn't we be celebrating it?

[Beelzebud]

29. Yeah thats a better name for it. What I'm going to do remains the same.

I want to hold a huge GOD HATES FRED sign and yell at all his family members. I want to give them back everything they've dished out over the years. And when it's all over, I'll piss on the sick-fuck's grave.

I'm not kidding even for a second here. This man is scum.

[Occulus]

37. It would be much more fun,

and in acceptably poorer taste, to toast his death with champagne. In full formal attire.

You know, have a nice, linen tablecloth, filet mignon, shrimp, caviar, etc., a string quartet... make it a fucking banquet. With only the celebratory allowed in, of course...

We could put it in full view, with microphones spattered about the table to pick up our Fred-denigrating words and fling them, apelike, via directed-sound speakers, toward the "mourners". (we could target the kids' ears with "your gramps is burning in hell, where the flesh of his soul will melt forever" as a special treat.)

Oh, we can have signage, of course: "FRED PHELPS DEATH CELEBRATION BANQUET" and a big red arrow pointing toward us, with another big red arrow and a sign saying "BUNCH OF SICK FUCKS MOURNING ANOTHER SICK FUCK" pointing toward them.

I'm only being half-sarcastic.

[sui generis]

42. isn't it odd this guy will probably be buried in an unmarked grave

or kept on the mantle.

For all that I believe he is genuinely mentally ill, and for all that he believes that he has caused people pain at their most vulnerable time (that IS his MO), he has actually helped by making people who wouldn't normally notice take a side and sometimes think about their preconceptions.

If it ever occurs to him, it must burn him up.

Even half his kids and kin have broken ties with him. What a sorry waste of protoplasm. People like him (cotton mather, the various bishops of the inquisitions) have always been dangerous. Today people like him are just laughingstock.

[A Simple Game]

95. I'm sure his will be the greenest grave in the entire cemetery.

[Fleshdancer]

36. and why wait so long to celebrate?

he's going to die eventually...can't we start celebrating that fact now?

[raysr]

98. "And I hope that you die,

And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead"

Dylan

[FVZA_Colonel]

38. Personally, I'm planning to fly out to Topeka as soon as he dies

so that I can dance on his grave.

[Initech]

43. I'll join you!

And make my own signs that say something along the lines of "God Hates Fred Phelps".

Let's see how the Phelps clan likes it when people protest at THEIR funerals! :evilgrin:

[missingthebigdog]

77. God doesn't hate anybody

We used to live near Topeka. Phelps is truly, amazingly, breathtakingly whacko. He is also a lawyer (although I believe disbarred. . . ). Several of his children are lawyers as well, and Topeka has stopped fighting them, in hopes that if they ignore him he will go away. His congregation is small, and primarily his family. A concerted effort to counter-protest, by a large number of Topekans, is in order. They might not be able to stop him, but the rest of the world needs to know that he does not speak for Topeka.


My husband used to have a t shirt that said: God doesn't hate anyone, but he ain't too fond of Fred.

[Virginian]

97. With a sign that asks, "Is it really really hot down there, Fred?"

[raysr]

23. The Xians will go

too far as History shows and they'll be shoved back under the fucking rock they belong under!

[EwokMyWeewok]

25. this guy really puts a bad name on christians

when he does this kinda shit.

[Ladyhawk]

59. Unfortunately, a lot of "Christians" in the United States

give a bad name to a very small number who actually follow the teachings of Christ. "Christianity" in this country has become a bully pulpit for the right wing. Right-wing "Christians" are also following the psychopathic * administration off a cliff and dragging the rest of us with them.

I don't have a lot of respect for this country's "Christians." There are some decent Christians on DU, but I have yet to meet a "Christian" in real life that isn't a right-wing bushbot or adherent to some other form of demagoguery. It makes me sad and confused because I really don't like conflict, yet almost everyone I know is a *-supporting, right-wing "Christian." I don't know what to do about my mixed emotions and the obvious fact that these people are leading us into fascism.

[FreedomAngel82]

66. As a Christian myself yes

I agree. My grandmother on my dad's side made a good point about all this once: she wondered how many actually read their Bible's or just went by what a "preacher" said or another Christian book?

[Ladyhawk]

79. It's really quite sad. And I believe it has contributed to a rift even

here on DU between Christians and non-Christians. I was reading a few threads last night that made me nearly despair. I honestly believe there is nothing out there to justify belief in a god or gods, but I don't want to feel the hostility I sometimes feel toward religionists. :( The right wing and religious crazies started it, but now the deep division has found its way to every corner of our culture.

Yes, we can agree to disagree on some things, but now everything has taken on the feeling of a fight to the death. I've certainly felt it. I don't know what to do with the way I sometimes feel toward religionists, except occasionally take a step back, like I'm doing now, and hope reason prevails.

Thanks a lot, shrub. You've managed to fracture us into many pieces. Divide and conquer is easy. :(

[MountainLaurel]

86. Amen

My grandmother is probably lives her life the closest to Christ's tenets compared to anyone I know. Yet, she hasn't been in a church for anything besides a wedding or a funeral in more than 40 years. I asked her once (when I was in a churchgoing phase because of brain-washing about hell) why she didn't go to church. Her reply (paraphrased): Why should I go sit with those hyprocrites who care more about what a person's wearing than they do about the word of the Lord, when I can talk to Jesus right here?

[depakid]

26. Apparantly, he wasn't well received in WVA

According to his flier, people "mocked him" during protests there. :rofl:

I imagine if he shows up again, he'll receive a little more than mockery....

[LostinVA]

30. I( think they may be surprised if they protest these funerals

They may be getting their evil asses shot... I at least want to see them get beat up by some good old WV mountain boys.

They are sickening. Sickening and truly evil.

[Sydnie]

44. It's the women they need to fear!

A great deal of the motivation for change in many mining towns comes from the women. They will tear these guys apart with their bare hands!

[FreedomAngel82]

67. Oh I'm sure

I heard on a news report last night one of the wives of the men you could hear in her voice how pissed off she was. Phelps doesn't want to mess with her and I'm sure the other wives are just as pissed. I would be too. You don't wanna mess with a pissed off woman.

[Democrats_win]

33. Proves the idea behind "First they came for the Jews..." poem

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller

[pitohui]

40. is this a put on?

i'm starting to think phelps is just putting us on

even hitler was kind to lobsters

this dude hates everybody

[KamaAina]

70. Yes, but only because the Jews rejected them

even hitler was kind to lobsters

:evilgrin:

[FreedomAngel82]

72. Apparently not

Goes way back. Check this article out I found: http://www.logcabinwa.com/archive/200010251159.shtml

And apparently once he even ran for president under the democratic party! And he and Al Gore are pictured as good friends. I don't know if Gore is still friends with him or not but the article talks about how Gore, at least back than, was against gay marriage and abortion and is (or perhaps I guess I should say "was" since I haven't heard) friends with Phelps. So it obviously isn't a put-on.

[BR_Parkway]

92. God Hates Shrimp! Seriously, it's in the Bible and everything, they

even made a website:

http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

I guess that would include lobsters, so Fred's just following the Word.

[DS1]

45. HA! I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=48174&mesg_id=57324

[Jara sang]

48. That mine was on Brokeback Mountain? That's strange.

[Buddyblazon]

49. He's going to piss off the wrong person some day....

and get himself killed. I don't like what he does. He's a creep. But I don't want to see anybody hurt.

At the rate he's going, I not only wouldn't be surprised, at this point I expect him to push the wrong button of some grieving family member...and they'll just snap. Use your imagination for the rest.

[FSogol]

51. It doubt it. It's more likely he'll get caught in some sort of

sex scandal involving a young boy or fellow parishioner.

[FreedomAngel82]

50. He isn't any sort of human I'm convienced

Twelve men just died and their families are grieving and all he cares about is gay sex? He's a pervert himself. And nobody has replaced the Bible with the Da Vinci code ignorant jackass.

[Nutmegger]

60. Like Pat Robertson

who said that feminism would lead to lesbianism and that the U.S. deserved 9/11.:wtf:

[Maru Kitteh]

62. Doesn't everybody get it yet?

It may have started out as a genuine detestable hatred of homosexuals but now it's just a show. Like the circus or Andy Kaufman. You know the best way to get people like this to go away? Ignore them. The best way you can punish them? Laugh at them and then ignore them. You have the power to make them irrelevant or you can give them power by paying attention to them.

[FreedomAngel82]

73. I don't think so for them

I do agree about the attention part though.

[Maru Kitteh]

81. Oh I don't doubt they'll try ever increasingly outragous stunts

But if they are continually ignored, what will it matter?

They're just in it for the attention at this point.

[China_cat]

64. Freddy boy had better reckon with what miners will

put up with before he packs his van for a road trip to WV.

[WI_DEM]

65. I hope some of those miner relatives will beat the shit out of those

who picket.

[blockhead]

69. that's fucked up. n/t

[jaxx]

71. These people are ugly through and through.

They came here when a soldier died and protested outside the church on the day of his funeral. What was cool was a group of anti-war protesters stood silently in front of the homophobes so that they were not visible from the street or church. A few signs held over head were all that could be seen.

I don't think the ugly ones should be kept from protesting, but maybe it would be better done in front of the WH in memory of Gannon/Guckert and his skip through those hallowed halls.

Anyway, the hate these people show is a sure sign that they are gonna go to hell in a hurry. Do ya spose dubya & co will be there throwing petals in their path? :evilgrin:

ps.....I hear I can live tax free if I preach some more.

[LSK]

83. ok, how is he any different than a terrorist?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

88. terrorists are usually much more stable.

committed? yes. But definitely more stable.

[Flagg]

90. Never forget that...

Those guys vote Republikkkan.

[Justpat]

93. Good luck to him when he tries to pull this crap with

West Virginians. His reception will be anything but restrained. The people of W.VA. won't
put up with this hate filled lunatic in the midst of their grief.

[Mutley]

94. Wow. Just... wow.

:wow:

Talk about kooky! Just when I didn't think I'd ever hear anything kookier out of Freddie's mouth than what I've already heard he comes out with this.

I'll say it again: WOW!

[Virginian]

96. Is Brokeback Mountain in West VA?

I haven't seen the movie yet. Just wondering why it was mentioned.

So what would a shrink say about Fred? Is he suppressing an attraction to openly gay men? Do they threaten his manhood because they are so hard to resist?

[SillyGoose]

100. Shouldn't the gov't being spying on these nutballs??

They sound like certifiable loons who would be capable of committing violence in the name of their warped belief system. I am serious about this.

[NMMNG]

106. They're too busy spying on real threats

Like PETA, Greenpeace, The Sierra Club and other peacenicks who are trying to make the Earth a better place. They don't have time for the hatemongers who are advocating the death of 10% of the human population.

[Marie26]

102. Does he have any actual followers

or is this guy just a random nut-job? Is the "Westboro Baptist Church" an actual congregation or just a front for Phelps? It'd be at least a little reassuring if he's not representing a real movement.

ETA: Oh, please don't tell me that his "church" is tax-exempt?! So we're all helping to fund these little picketing expeditions?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church_(Topeka)

[lies and propaganda]

105. Because West Virgina is globally known for its tolerance.

What planet is this 'church' from?

[Berry Cool]

107. No planet we know.

I am seriously concerned that this guy is going to create a Jonestown Massacre someday. He does not live in the real world with the rest of us and would have no compunctions about taking any of us out of it. He just might be the kind who would whip up his own followers into a high enough state of paranoia that he could get them to kill themselves rather than fall to the outside world.

[Midnight Rambler]

110. Will Fred Phelps PLEASE come out of the closet?

The sooner you admit it Fred, the better off we'll all be.

[Bluebear]

111. Please, which side would want him?

[dsc]

112. I have a friend who comes from the county next to where the

explosion took place. If there is a more anti gay place in the nation, it would be hard to prove it by him. The stories he tells of life there are just heartbreaking. Clearly God is pretty incompetent in Phelp's world.