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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:07 PM
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The logic of a Freeper
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 02:12 PM by trixie
I just had to make my virgin thread starter on the topic of freepers and their logic.......from the recent tragedy in the WV mines they start out with this snippet:

To: timestax
PRAISE GOD!!!
57 posted on 01/03/2006 9:07:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Monthly is the best way to donate to Free Republic!)
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To: Pimpmygop
What great news! Prayers answered!
8 posted on 01/03/2006 9:07:57 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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They are on the 12 alive train, as is most of America. They can be seen here:
To: RushCrush
Local news is running a crawl over the Orange Bowl. No report from ABC network.
67 posted on 01/03/2006 9:10:20 PM PST by nhoward14
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To: JennysCool
Tirico's Blackberry must be off. He talks about the score in the Sugar Bowl, but not the REAL news.
79 posted on 01/03/2006 9:15:53 PM PST by nhoward14
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Your best bet is to check here periodically.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180507,00.html


So they are fully entrenched on the story and are praising God and Foxnews. To us noncrazy people they say:

Just try and convince the 12 miners' friends and relatives praying in that Baptist Church that there is no God.

TAKE THAT ATHIESTS!!!


I mean no disrespect for those of faith just showing you the intolerant ways of a freeper. Now we come to the part of history when we all find out the families were mislead. Here is freeper logic:

Litigation from mining deaths severely limits the amount of damages. Lost wages for the remaining work life of the deceased is about it. It is dirty and dangerous work, when one hires on, they sign off accepting the risks.
So apparently they signed on for death, plain and simple. Now let's move on to blame:

The one thing I think should not be doing is blaming company officials, who made no official statement.and As for the reporting... I see how it happened, I see how it had a life of it's own. I think that the mine company's own compassion in the situation made it even worse.

With the CEO playing it so straight up, I've got to think that this is what happened. He's been a real trooper through the whole mess; tolerable of the inane reporter's questions, I can't see this same guy knowingly allowing bad data like "12 alive" to run unchecked throughout the national media.


There is more: Here are three FACTS for you to deal with:

1. The Company never officially stated 12 were alive.

2. The LibIdiot Media was reporting 12 were alive.

3. It is the Media's job to check facts before reporting on them.


Hmmmmmmmm I wonder if the misinformation was intentional. I wonder if it was a hoax phone call. Probably not, but I'd like to know who made that call. They know the family who spread the word in the church. I'd check their cell phone to see who called them that night about this. See if it indeed was someone in the mine, or if the call came from elsewhere. They know the approximate time the call was made, so this should be easy to track back. Hope someone else is thinking this way and going after that cell phone to check this out. If they don't have call waiting, you go to the telephone company for the info. Yes we are now blaming the dead miners and their families. Excellent logic.



Anyways, you can find sick, sick, sick, and some evil reading at Democrat Underground
There's some lovely posts there blaming Bush and making excuses for the media.


I knew it! It was us all along. By reading their 1000+ post thread on the topic we can see that the ones to blame are: psychic Sylvia Brown (?); that horrible Dem Governor; Anderson Cooper and the media (but not Fox).

Sheeeeeesh! Glad I got it figured out.








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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:09 PM
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1. "TAKE THAT ATHIESTS!!!"
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 02:10 PM by Loonman
Yeah, okay bud, I'm sure Jesus is a big fan of gloating. I know he probably approves of proper grammar and spelling as that leads to well organized thoughts.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:24 PM
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12. Oh brother
I wonder how old this person is.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:41 PM
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25. Wonder what he thinks now that the truth has come out.
Does the fact that 12 died make the power of prayer less real for him? Does it make his God concept a bit shaky?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:41 PM
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26. not only that, but God sure seems likea jerk, don't he?
all those people praying, and he still kills off 11 of 12. Does this mean the 12th was more religious?. that his family prayed harder, sacrificed a fatter calf? what?


Or, maybe GoD was so busy trying to save Notre Dame from defeat that he took his eye off the ball?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:09 PM
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2. Freeper Logic
is an oxymoron

or is it oxy-moran ???
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:11 PM
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3. don't try to figure out freeper logic...
you might hurt yourself:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:14 PM
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4. I kinda like what my local newspaper had to say about this story.
And this is a mostly RW newspaper!


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0105thur2-05.html

Excerpt:
And it's unfortunate that while the news industry must, yet again, undertake a scourging self-examination, the real issue takes a back seat. The real issue is mine safety and why so many men keep dying in these black pits.
Question the media? Yes, we must. But let's not forget it was the mine that killed these guys. Not the media.
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:20 PM
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10. Wow. . the Republic(an) said that? Blow me over with a feather
The craptacular Arizona Republic(an) hates anyone who deals with mine reform. Mining here in Arizona is a huge industry.

I am surprised, and pleasantly shocked, but not overly so. The AZ Republic(an) and the rest of these choads in the me-jah are watching their own ass and trying to deflect the fact they fucked up.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:25 PM
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14. Even a blind squirrel can sometimes find an acorn.
I was surprised to agree with anything they had on the editorial page.
You don't think I'm losing my mind for agreeing with them, do you??? :scared:
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:28 PM
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17. Sometimes, the dopes in the right are intellectually honest, but it's rare
So, no. . .I don't think so. I find myself agreeing with some right wingers occasionally. . .like when Cal Thomas said the "war on Christmas" assholes were worse than than the ones who supposedly declared war on Christmas.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:40 PM
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23. But wait, I thought guns don't kill people....
people kill people..er, wait no, that's not it....uh.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:15 PM
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5. "Take that atheists!!!"
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 02:17 PM by politicaholic
I don't remember an Atheist making an offical statement.

I guess we're just too busy trying to take over the world in order to destroy christianity...oh...did I just say that out loud?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:17 PM
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8. I keep missing the yearly atheist's meeting
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 02:17 PM by Loonman
Must fall on the same day as the anarchist convention.
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:17 PM
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9. don't forget planning for the up and coming war on easter
it's hard work:blush:
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:24 PM
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13. lol..."All bread from now on must be levened!!!"...lol
What a load of crap.

Then, we start a war on "Christmas in July" mattress sales.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:15 PM
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6. The lengths they will go
To protect their cherished illusions. CEOs neeeever put profits before lives...Faux News neeeever screws up....

I like that first guys sig line about Liberals and pie. Mine would read: Conservative: One who thinks rich people deserve all the pies and everyone else can wait for a few crumbs to drop on the floor.

Great job with your first thread! :hi: :thumbsup:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:29 PM
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18. Nice, but I like this one:
Conservatives: People too lazy to bake; they'd rather take the pie YOU made because you are a sinner and don't deserve your own pie!
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:31 PM
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20. how about this:
conservatives: us liberals can take their pie, they don't need anymore anyway, most of them are fat.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 03:38 PM
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33. ROFLMAO! n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 03:37 PM
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32. I like that one!
Mind if I steal it?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 04:47 PM
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34. Not a bit!
:hi:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:29 PM
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19. Like Servants Eating Scraps from the King's Table
Pathetic... Why not just wear leashes. Get it over with you stupid tools.
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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:49 PM
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30. Thank you!
:hi:

To be fair, there were a couple (and I mean 2) posters who were not on the blame em all train.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:16 PM
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7. They can't even spell "atheists"
Reading FR posts makes hitting yourself in the head with a stick look productive by comparison.

:banghead:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:20 PM
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11. Must. defend. rich and powerful!
Why do regular people find it necessary to defend those in charge when they fuck up? Do those idiots own stock in the company? Big Coal is more than capable of issuing its own propaganda and it will be more skillfully believeable than anything these half-wits have to say.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:26 PM
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15. What a Bunch of Pathetic Morons
My God they are so niave and uniformed. But how can one be this uninformed, yet have access to a World of knowledge at one's finger tips. Do they ignore anything and everything that challeneges their point of view? If so, they are paranoid conspiracy theorists themselves for believing there is a Liberal Media. And that we are spreading misinfo to try to fool them. How fucking stupid and yet ironic.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:26 PM
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16. All Good Things Attribute to God, All bad things attribute to Satan
...and logic is for wheenies.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:31 PM
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21. RE: Rescue prooves God exists.
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 02:37 PM by patrice
I keep wondering why these people of "faith" need proof so much.

BTW, if they had been alive, that would proove that God exists, so, since they are dead, that prooves God doesn't exist? I know it doesn't, but by their logic it does. Of the hundreds of causes that could result in a live resuce, they pick "God is real." If we were to ask them what their death prooves, they'd say there are hundreds of causes to which the deaths could be ascribed and that it doesn't necessarily reflect anything about the existence of God.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:38 PM
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22. Or, how 'bout this:
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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:52 PM
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31. reminds me of 9/11
They were all so ready to help the families of the victims and now they are just calling them scumbags. They turned on the miners pretty quickly.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:40 PM
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24. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
I long ago decided that freepers are either mentally retarded or mentally deranged. Whichever they are, they have their minds made up, and are only interested in hearing that which they like to hear.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:43 PM
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27. Oh BTW, freepers don't think language and logic have anything
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 02:44 PM by patrice
to do with one another. I had one tell me in a big thread the other day that you can't make logical deductions from what someone says; i.e. you can't say anything about what someone says beyond the exact words they use.

Language wouldn't work at all if it was like that.
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Cleetus Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:44 PM
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28. holy shit
that's fucking pitiful
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ZapaPaine Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 02:48 PM
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29. Very timely article for this thread

Mr. Valenzuela hits another home run with this look at freeper world. Found this great read at ICH, posted today. They are truly the Army of Good Americans...

The Army of Good Americans

Festering in our midst like a toxic cloud of pollution the army of good Americans exists, living and working among us, inhabiting our neighborhoods and cities, co-existing peacefully with us, though perceiving an utterly different conception of reality than the rest of us. Their numbers, though dwindling more every day with the almost weekly revelations of corporatist lies built upon corporatist lies and government deceptions meshed with corporate criminality, remain high, thanks to those unable to escape the clouds of 9/11 and the manipulative propaganda of the corporatist media. The Kool-Aid drinking brigades remain strong, still ardent supporters of frivolous, fictitious and diminishing deceptions, still hypnotized to the dim-witted, slurred speech of their great Commander in Chief, still spewing the talking points they hear emanating from the corporatist media and still clinging to the ingrained and unenlightened selfishness that permeates their existence. Today they are harder to recognize than in previous years, their once proud bumper stickers and car magnets on pickup trucks and SUVs praising their Dear Leader now nowhere to be seen, evaporating like a morning fog, thrown into trash bins or stored inside closets, lest they be fingered as part of the ignorant legions of automatons that helped steer America directly towards its present predicament. Gone are the large W’s emblazoned on their vehicles, that blue “Wastika” showcasing blind loyalty to criminality and fascism, while advertising mental fragility and propensities to be the followers of incompetence. Missing from the giant trucks and monstrous SUV’s masking quite apparent deficiencies below the belt are the plethora of patriotism-laced and nationalism-filled slogans that reeked of machismo yet betrayed delicate insecurity, now conveniently hidden from view as their precious war for fictitious democracy and freedom continues its decent into quagmire and debacle.

Yet this vast army of sheeple lingers throughout the American landscape, for they have not quite surrendered to truth or reality, two concepts as unfamiliar to them as reason and logic. They have simply retreated back to the canopied forests where barbarians live, crawling under rocks and boulders, returning home only to await the beckoning calls of further war through the trumpets of fear and hatred. Like fair-weathered fans, hiding at the first sign of defeat, rising with the arrival of victory, wanting only to be seen with winners and associated with success, this army of followers abandons ship when trouble can be seen and defeat smelled, forgetting that a war and quagmire exists in Iraq, evading their complicity in furtherance of criminality, finding it easy to whitewash from their minds war crimes and the murder of over 120,000 Iraqi and American lives.

For they are the Army of Good Americans, fearing what they do not know or understand, easily led into the dark expanses of human nature, ignorant to the ease with which they are manipulated and made blind to the power they willingly cede to the criminals and murderers in power. Birthed from the rubble of the World Trade Center, rising like a phoenix on 9/11 to claim dominion over America, this army has been the oxygen-rich blood maintaining alive the criminals in office. They are the defenders of war crimes and the apologizers of corruption. Filled with the emotions and passion of mammalian instinct, making them unthinking, uncritical, illogical and without reason, the army of good Americans has become the key used by corporatists to unlocking imperial aspirations abroad and destroying freedoms and rights at home. It is this army – a large part of American society – that has become an oasis to corporatists whose ambitions would have otherwise perished in the deserts of the Middle East.

Their legions, marching lock step behind their Dear Leader, filled to the rafters with the fear, hatred, xenophobia and patriotism needed by authoritarian regimes to thrive, have become the conduits of destruction, violence, rape and murder, the co-conspirators of illegality and death. Easily they answered the call to scapegoat and hate that which they did not know, their fear magnified and manipulated by their puppeteers, becoming the pawns of expendability and the tools of power, their emotions abused, their religious beliefs manipulated, their vote exploited, their majority numbers used to invade and occupy foreign lands and pilfer the treasury at home.

Read the entire essay at: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11460.htm

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