Oh Bartcop..put it where the moon glows

[Dees]

Showing a lot of disrespect today on his site for DU. Fall in for Hillary or you don't know jack.

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. Oh, did Hillary win the primary already? Man, the news is flying today.

[Dees]

2. According to Bart you sure would think so.

[benburch]

3. I love the man...

but think he is dead wrong on this one.

[sniffa]

4. who?

[vicman]

6. Find out here

http://www.bartcop.com

[sniffa]

7. oh, i know the site

i stand by my statement. :P

[Cha]

18. I got

it:P

[Walt Starr]

5. He has a right to support Hillary

and the wholesale destruction of the Democratic PArty that would ensue with a Hillary candidacy.

I simply wish he would see she is amongst those he puts pink tutus on and she is 100% unelectable.

Hell, I think Dumbass* would beat Hillary hands down if he could run for a third term, and his ratings are so negative that should eb a laughable statement!

[blm]

8. You mean like....

Bill Clinton sided with Alan Greenspan over John Kerry when he kept the books closed on BCCI so that one day he could buddy up to Old man Bush as part of his secret plan to save the world from their tyranny many years later.

Or

Anyone who voted for IWR is a pink tutu Democrat except Hillary. And anyone who submits a withdrawal plan for Iraq is just trying to upstage Hillary. No one has serious commitments to good governance except Bill and Hillary.

Y'know....I was a great fan of Bart's for a few years, and still admire his wit, but, he doesn't make sense when he excuses Clinton's closing the books on BCCI when the revelations could have STOPPED the BFEE in their tracks and no Bush would have been allowed near the White House ever again.

I will support Hillary if she's the nominee, but he acts as if she is constantly working on momentous issues to better this world, when she wouldn't even sign the senate letter of inquiry for the DSM.

[Moochy]

9. But you see

America was moving on, a new TV show/presidency. Nobody wants to clutter the TV box with old scandals from last season.

[blm]

11. Yup. Except that old scandal would have prevented a 9-11 and the Iraq war

policy.

All the characters, including Bin Laden, would have been revealed to the world at a time when it would have done some good.

[Moochy]

14. I get real cynical sometimes

and wonder about Bush I and Clinton's chummyness.

Kerry played a role in the investigations too, I wonder how much he wanted to continue the investigations into IRAN/Contra once Clinton's Presidency had started.

[blm]

20. I don't think Clinton intended to get roped in, but certain acts assured

that he wouldn't be able to turn back - like BCCI. Once he nixed opening those books, he could be MADE to seem complicit in the coverup. That's how the BFEE works.

Bart really is a great character and I feel he is a real patriot - I just think he is wrong in his assessments of many Dems.

He contradicts himself when he heaps loathing upon Kerry as a coward, yet rightfully praises Robert Parry for his brave work investigating and exposing IranContra and BCCI when it was Kerry who persisted in the investigations of both and against the entire DC powerstucture and many in his own party.

In fact, the constant bad reports from both those cases HELPED weaken the public trust in Poppy Bush so Clinton COULD win in 92.

[edbermac]

10. I love Bart, but nobody's perfect...

He's anointing Hillary already; and just because I don't warm to her like I did with Bill doesn't mean I HATE her! C'mon dude, you've been nipping at the Chinaco too much...

[onehandle]

12. Bartcop is a bare-knuckled fighter and a good guy.

He's been fighting for ten years on the side of light.

Bash Hillary if you want, but Bart is off limits.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

35. ditto nt

nt

[MODemocrat]

13. Why not send your message directly to Bartcop?

He supports Hillary Clinton; he doesn't like the republicans; he has a right to his opinion, or he did have. I haven't checked today on which one of our civil rights Bush has taken away; so maybe he isn't allowed his opinion. :shrug:

[robbedvoter]

23. Very well said.

:thumbsup:

[StClone]

15. DU does hate Hillary why bitch at Bart?

Just because he is pointing out the obvious. By the way old Bart is right more often than not.

[librechik]

39. Bart has an IQ of 64

what do we expect?

He's amusing, a good guy and a truthteller.

Glad he doesn't drive the car, if you know what I mean.

[raysr]

42. Why not debate him

some time and show him how smart YOU are?

[librechik]

43. why? I usually agree with him

and he's entitled to his opinion about Hillary--until after the primary. Then I expect us all to stick together behind the candidate, whoever it is.

besides I only have an IQ of 65 and I'm a girl. I'm sure he'd win.

[stlsaxman]

44. Bart himself claims to have "an I.Q. of 64"...

it's one of his tag lines. librechic wasn't saying Bart was stupid.

[Missy Vixen]

16. BartCop's our friend

I disagree with him at times, but he is a tremendous person, and has been fighting the good fight for ten years now.

I'd rather agree to disagree than knife one of our own, thanks.

Julie

[Cha]

17. I'm not goin' over there to

find out..but I have a question for bart.

Why isn't hillary in a pink tutu when you had Kerry, biden, lieberman, and, I forget who the other guy was ..in pink tutus dancing in line?

hillary should be in a hot pink tutu.

[robbedvoter]

28. Why not take a big bulhorn and yell outside?

Since when are we trashing fellow anti-bush fighters behind their back?
This entire thread speaks poorly for DU. I'll ask for it to be locked.

[Cha]

30. I ask a question so

you can put that in your self righteous pipe and smoke it.

[Dees]

19. Don't get me wrong..I read Bart faithfully. I just

don't agree with everything he says. Bart..if you're reading.. spend a little time here. We run the spectrum. He surely is entitled to his opinion...wrong as he is on this one.

[robbedvoter]

24. Why spend time here? he has a site, a radio show, a forum and maybe

also a life. You sound like Dildo Reilly "I dare you to come on my turf"
You can very easily get in touch with Bart and debate him till the cows come home - he thrives on it.
Why badmouth him like that, in absentia?

[Dees]

31. Having a bad day are ya? Well he might

just want to back up his claims with personal experience, validity and truthfulness. For your information I have contacted him a number times and vise versa (and I did on this particular topic). I have probably spent as much time on his turf as I have on DU. Save your vitriolic nonsense for Republicans.

[robbedvoter]

34. Again, a Dildo Reilly tactic. "Come on my show" Back up his claims?

Did he make any claims on DU that he needs to defend ? Did he start a Hillary 2008 thread that he failed to follow up here? Is DU debate central?
Your arrogance is beyond the pale. Again, if you want a debate, write him and engage him in one. I predict he'll humiliate you royally .
You just seem to want to trash him on DU. very umbecoming.

[Dees]

36. I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. You simply

don't get it. My arrogance doesn't hold a candle to your ignorance of the subtle jab. The CLAIM is from HIS page..."They really, really hate Hillary on the DU Forums. Reading the glee in their hate speech makes me think they'd sooner vote for Rush or Bush".

BTW, for the final time I am a Bartcop reader and fan. Now who do you plan to vote for..Rush or Bush?

[robbedvoter]

40. So, go there, sign as a DU-er and defend DU! Good luck.

A fan doesn't trash him on other forums. Go to HIS forum - it's a good one - and we even had this very topic once or twice. I just find it more appropriate to do it there.

[robbedvoter]

21. I love Bart - even if I disagree on Hillary. He's been a good guy way

before DU came into place.
There's a lot of stuff I disagree with on DU as well, but I'm not going to trash the place wholesale because of those.
That's for goose steppers to do.
Shame on you!

[blm]

32. Hear, hear - we ALL disagree at some point - but the trashing of our own

team HAS to stop. Hopefully, Bart will come to that conclusion, too.

[stlsaxman]

22. Bart is flat out AWESOME!

So what if he's convinced that the only Dem who can win '08 is Hillary? He may have a point- then again, he may be totally off base. I think he is the latter, still NO ONE on the web is perfect and, more than that- NO ONE on the web has fought the good fight as long as Bartcop has. Period. Bartcop.com has been my first daily stop since before the Clinton Impeachment, back in the day that his internet tree house was called "Rush Limbaugh Lying Nazi Gasbag".

He's right when he says there are a lot of loonies here on DU. I'm proud to count myself amoungst them! The main thing that separates us from the Freeper is our ability to identify and celebrate our lunacy.

[Sterling]

25. Bart cop is lame.

his sites look looks like crap and seems to have a "southern democrat" agenda.

[robbedvoter]

26. So are you. See, I can do coultertalk too!

When did you visit last?
http://www.bartcop.com/

[Shakespeare]

27. Whassamatta, did Skinner tombstone Perkel again?

:rofl:

[johnfunk]

29. I'll cut Bartcop some slack

He's very funny, and we've got a huge array of talent in the Progressive Old Party. What does the GOP have? Doctrinaire, talking-point-spewing clones.

[AtomicKitten]

33. bartcop is an innocent bystander

I started a thread to get people taking about what if Hillary does get the nod.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2342633&mesg_id=2342633

I don't think there are many here that will vote for her in the primary, including me, but what if she is nominated by the majority of Democrats in the primary?

What I got was some fractious, mean-spirited attacks by those that hate Hillary, beside the point to be sure, but this in-fighting is really pathetic and counterproductive.

Bartcop presented an argument that I posted here. And he was vilified, cracks even being made about his cancer diagnosis. Not nice.

Regardless of one's political proclivities, that was mean and completely unnecessary, but that's the kind of garbage floating around here that I was trying to face dead-on and hopefully reason with so we can roll up our sleeves and get to work, together, as a force to be reckoned with, against the Republicans, but clearly some here perceive the enemy to be within the party.

I clearly failed, because people that could produce that kind of input aren't capable of rational and reasonable discourse, much less polite and constructive.

And my most sincere apologies to Bart for having exposed him to this.

[blm]

37. Think on the positive side - maybe the thread helped get most of the venom

out, so it is less likely to have a lasting effect down the rode.

This place gets uber-brutal - some legit, most not - but, I also believe most folks here have an understood bottom line: Defeat Republican thugs no matter what, no matter who.

[Rex]

38. I love Bartcop, but sometimes he is dead wrong and can act like an idiot.

Sometimes I am dead wrong and can act like an idiot. Bart does pretty good with an IQ of 64. ;)

[raysr]

41. How happy they must be

over in Fresno seeing all this hatred toward Hillary. This is why we are getting the shit beat out of us in all the elections. Look over there and see if they EVER beat up on their own people.

[Fud]

45. Scuse me?

over in Fresno seeing all this hatred toward Hillary. This is why we are getting the shit beat out of us in all the elections. Look over there and see if they EVER beat up on their own people.

Last time i checked Kerry won. We put up a loser and he still won. Too bad he found out a year later.

I don't think the few here that make jabs at bart are the majority. Disagree if you want with opinion but attacking a fellow dem is not kewl.