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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 07:57 PM
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Poll question: with TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS in operation is DU a tyrants wet dream
well, the whole web (of course) not just DU.

I write spiders/bots/scrapers (computer code that scans the web for info) for a living and i know the marketing Dept's love this stuff, 'data mining', i can only image what the leader of a POLICE STATE would think about the reach of the www.


DARPA: Total Information Awareness

The project called for the development of "revolutionary technology for ultra-large all-source information repositories," which would contain information from multiple sources to create a "virtual, centralized, grand database." This database would be populated by transaction data contained in current databases such as financial records, medical records, communication records, and travel records as well as new sources of information. Also fed into the database would be intelligence data.

A key component of the TIA project was to develop data-mining or knowledge discovery tools that would sort through the massive amounts of information to find patterns and associations. TIA would also develop search tools such as Project Genoa, which Admiral Poindexter's former employer Syntek Technologies assisted in developing. TIA aimed to fund the development of more such tools and data-mining technology to help analysts understand and even "preempt" future action.

source...
http://www.epic.org/privacy/profiling/

see also (though they are watching you ;->)
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2003/b02072003_bt060-03.html


talk about having a serious god complex, the neoCONs that is... can you image how many errors this thing is gonna generate :eyes:


more...
http://news.globalfreepress.com

peace

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:04 PM
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1. No doubt about it.....We're COOKED...no matter about Firefox, Linux, MAC
or the hated Microsoft........we are COOKED!

If I had a "Deep Fry graphic" I'd post it.......we're done...stick a fork in us...:-(

Are we like those "Fried Turkeys" that folks do for the heathen celebration of American "Thanksgiving" when they celebrate the Conquering of the American Indigenous Peoples?" :shrug:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:08 PM
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2. Waving to agent Mike
It's called freedom of speech, so kiss my ass.:hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:12 PM
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3. You would have loved the (associative) topological mapping tools ...
... being developed in the National Labs 10 years ago. MASSIVE amounts of unstructured data with star and network topologies dynamically generated. Talk about map and drill! :eyes:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:21 PM
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5. OMG...give me the link...so I can fry myself into oblivion........
sheesh....
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:25 PM
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7. This was stuff I saw personally while playing "Sr. Research Scientist"
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 08:26 PM by TahitiNut
Yeah ... one of those. Really wonky systems stuff. At least that's what my business card said. :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:27 PM
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8. Why do I need a F**ing Plasma TV that's the size of a WALL in my House?
What the hell am I going to watch. If I'm not into Sports?

Bette Davis Movies? or the shit that Hollywood is putting out that everyone orders "CHEAP" from Neflix...figuring if it's a DOG at least they didn't have to shill out the $20 Bucks for the "condidments." :-(

$20 Bucks a pop over a year...means alot to most families if there is very little "Meat & Treats" amongst the popcorn. :shrug:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:27 PM
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9. yeah, it is pretty easy to get overwhelmed with todays tech
it all looks good on the white boards though ;->

peace
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:13 PM
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4. Most intelligence collection comes from open sources
yep
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:22 PM
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6. Damned near time we take BACK technology...it's started to bother me
that folks need to walk around "wired" to everything.

It's BLOWBACK TIME!!!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:37 PM
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10. Bush's War on Professionals "under war powers granted to him by himself'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x183579

by Sidney Blumenthal
......

During his first term, President Bush issued an unprecedented 108 statements upon signing bills of legislation that expressed his own version of their content. He has countermanded the legislative history, which legally establishes the foundation of their meaning, by executive diktat. In particular, he has rejected parts of legislation that he considered stepped on his power in national security matters. In effect, Bush engages in presidential nullification of any law he sees fit. He then acts as if his gesture supersedes whatever Congress has done.

Political scientist Phillip Cooper, of Portland State University in Oregon, described this innovative grasp of power in a recent article in the Presidential Studies Quarterly. Bush, he wrote, "has very effectively expanded the scope and character of the signing statement not only to address specific provisions of legislation that the White House wishes to nullify, but also in an effort to significantly reposition and strengthen the powers of the presidency relative to the Congress." Moreover, these coups de main not only have overwhelmed the other institutions of government but have taken place almost without notice. "This tour de force has been carried out in such a systematic and careful fashion that few in Congress, the media, or the scholarly community are aware that anything has happened at all."

Not coincidentally, the legal author of this presidential strategy for accreting power was none other than the young Samuel Alito, in 1986 deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel. Alito's view on unfettered executive power, many close observers believe, was decisive in Bush's nomination of him to the Supreme Court.

Last week, when Bush signed the military appropriations bill containing the amendment forbidding torture that he and Vice President Cheney had fought against, he added his own "signing statement" to it. It amounted to a waiver, authorized by him alone, that he could and would disobey this law whenever he chose. He wrote: "The executive branch shall construe Title X in Division A of the Act, relating to detainees, in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President to supervise the unitary executive branch and as Commander in Chief and consistent with the constitutional limitations on the judicial power, which will assist in achieving the shared objective of the Congress and the President, evidenced in Title X, of protecting the American people from further terrorist attacks." In short, the president, in the name of national security, claiming to protect the country from terrorism, under war powers granted to him by himself, would follow the law to the extent that he decided he would.

peace
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:01 PM
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11. as Abby Hoffman said
if they don't have a file on you, you must not being doing anything (or something to that effect)

you know all those petitions and things we sign all the time?

for most of us it is a bit late to worry

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