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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:04 PM
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Drank the Kool-Aid
You know, I'm about tired of Bill O'Lielly using the beloved Kool-aid man to illustrate people he considers to be somehow delusional. I'm not really up on things like I should be... does the whole Kool-aid thing have its origins in the Jonestown Massacre? If so, isn't that kind of sick? And does anyone know whether or not Kraft Foods consents to the use of their trademark in this fashion? Surely the man who sued Al Franken over his use of "fair and balanced" wouldn't use a corporate trademark like that without permission. If this is the case, I think it's time for some activism against the Kool-Aid profiteers.

Thanks for letting me rant.

~Peace~
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:05 PM
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1. yes about Jim Jones and his cyanide koolaid nt
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:15 PM
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5. Pic


Pretty funny stuff, if you're some kind of sick-o
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:07 PM
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2. They steal everything....money and ideas--lock the doors
put your purse away :scared:

Seriously. I believe Randi Rhodes started the Kool Aid "craze" and it is in reference to Jonestown. But for Orally to use it like they lying republicans who point to the media as the source of their problems is totally insane. America has gone mad.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:12 PM
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3. So who is Kraft Foods gonna sue?
Half the population must use the phrase. Good luck collecting on that one.

Sort of like the writers of Twilight Zone trying to sue for the phrase about putting people in the cornfield.

Sometimes a phrase is so succinct that it just gets incorporated into daily speech.

Kraft Foods can't do much about that.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:14 PM
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4. Bill O'Lielly, for using the picture of the Kool-aid man
That's a registered trademark, n'est ce pas? He features that picture on his show every night in context with some (usually) correct thinking person, making them look like some kind of kook.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:49 PM
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9. I guess I don't
watch enough of O'Really. I missed that. I suppose Kool-Aid might have a case.

Kinda funny though, O'really using the Kool-Aid symbol when he got all bent out of shap over Franken's use of "fair and balanced." The arrogance is pretty amazing.
Mz Pip

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:38 PM
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8. It wasn't Kool Aid, it was Flavor Aid (crappy Kool Aid knock off)
Not only was Jim Jones a megalomaniac, he was a cheap ass megalomaniac.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:17 PM
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6. Ken Kesey Electric Kool Aid Acid Test
I think "don't drink the kool-aid" pre-dates Jim Jones.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:22 PM
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7. I forgot about that
I still think most people are refering to the Jim Jones thing though. I know that is what I think of when I read about drinking the koolaid.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:51 PM
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10. i'm pretty sure Jonestown had "FlaVor-Aid®" someone will correct me if
wrong.
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Osito Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:12 PM
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11. I can understand not liking O'Reilly, but...
...he uses that same phrase for the any person he thinks is too "devoted-to-the-cause", no matter what affilliation. I'm confused, what other phrase would you have him say that wouldn't drive you crazy after he repeated 100 times? The "Kool-Aid" reference does indeed originate with Jonestown. (Yes, I'm THAT old.) Loved Wolfe's book "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" about Ken Kesey, but not the source for the phrase. Also, the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid" is in the public domain. O'Reilly can claim the use of the symbol is satire. Whoever owns the rights to the symbol would have to prove intentional damage. Possible, but expensive suit. Not likely to happen.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 04:54 PM
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12. It's definitely a Jonestown reference
The Kesey argument has been made here before, but the idea isn't simply the term "Kool Aid", the idea has to be taken in context. Blindly "drinking the Kool Aid" is clearly a Jonestown reference, even if it was Flavor Aid. lol
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