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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:41 PM
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Enjoy a good laugh at the expense of history-illiterate chickenhawks!
The *good* Roger Ailes called The Captain's Quarters on a stupid mistake: flattering itself by pretending that today's gas bags on the right are just like Patrick Henry. The dope responsible for the mistake simply misread a PH timeline. Ailes's commentary is here. Be sure to scroll down and enjoy the contagious idiocy among the CQ's posters! :rofl:



http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006067.php


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It turns out that Henry never served in the Revolution -- and even when given a commission and a command, he declined to serve:

1775 August 26: Although Henry had no military experience, he was elected colonel of the First Virginia Regiment and commander-in-chief of the Virginia militia.

1776 February 28: Henry resigned his military appointment.

Wow -- who knew that Kos would celebrate such a chickenhawk!

Of course, that slur would be ludicrous to use on Patrick Henry. Instead of picking up a gun and commanding an army, Henry relied on his better skills and went into politics and rhetoric to fight for freedom. He urged the armed uprising as one of the leading pundits of his age, from his seat in the Virginia Assembly and as governor of the independent Commonwealth of Virginia. His proclamation for liberty or death did not mean that he intended on grabbing his pistol and run out into the nearest battle he could find. It did mean that he made liberty, freedom, and democracy his life's work -- and in doing so, he helped form the basis of the mandate of Americans to throw off the British monarchy and engage in the world's greatest experiment in self-rule. His contribution to American freedom is no less honorable for his refusal to serve in the Revolutionary Army, and no less important.

All Kos did with his screed is demonstrate that he has nothing more than a facile understanding of both American history and the nature of civilian-based democratic government rather than military juntas.

UPDATE: Roger Ailes and CQ reader Duckman rightly point out that Patrick Henry did take part in one engagement, a raid to secure powder a few days after Lexington in May 1775 -- before he received his commission, in fact. Mea culpa. However -- and this is my point -- Patrick Henry's worth to the American Revolution has little or nothing to do with this one uncontested military effort on Henry's part. If that qualifies Henry as a hero in Kos' eyes, then why wouldn't flying two years of defense missions in a notoriously unreliable jet protecting the homeland qualify as well? Especially since the latter person requested a transfer to combat while the former resigned his commission just as the war started to heat up? Rather than "denigrating" Henry, as Duckman says I did, I pointed out that Henry's greatness had nothing to do with whether he served in a combat position at any point in his life, but in the work he did to push for the creation of this nation of freedom and liberty. He used his best skills to the fullest extent to perform great work. That isn't validated by his presence at one single engagement just as it isn't invalidated by his resignation of his commission after the war started -- as I argued....
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:48 PM
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1. * "requested a transfer to combat"? What utter BS! n/t
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UPDATE: Roger Ailes and CQ reader Duckman rightly point out that Patrick Henry did take part in one engagement, a raid to secure powder a few days after Lexington in May 1775 -- before he received his commission, in fact. Mea culpa. However -- and this is my point -- Patrick Henry's worth to the American Revolution has little or nothing to do with this one uncontested military effort on Henry's part. If that qualifies Henry as a hero in Kos' eyes, then why wouldn't flying two years of defense missions in a notoriously unreliable jet protecting the homeland qualify as well? Especially since the latter person requested a transfer to combat while the former resigned his commission just as the war started to heat up? Rather than "denigrating" Henry, as Duckman says I did, I pointed out that Henry's greatness had nothing to do with whether he served in a combat position at any point in his life, but in the work he did to push for the creation of this nation of freedom and liberty. He used his best skills to the fullest extent to perform great work. That isn't validated by his presence at one single engagement just as it isn't invalidated by his resignation of his commission after the war started -- as I argued....
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:59 PM
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2. If we're talking about the same guy, didn't he specifically check...
...some box on a form going in to the guard to say he did NOT want to volunteer for nam?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:01 PM
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4. Yes he did.
He also got shot over the heads of less fortunate sons to ensure that he was safely ensconced in Texas during the war.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:01 PM
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5. Yes and one book quoted Bush's friend as saying * was very afraid of
going to Vietnam.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:00 PM
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3. So according to the captain, Bush is a better patriot than Henry.
:eyes:
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:05 PM
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6. In truth... it depends whose America you live in.
If you're a rich Republican American, Bush is George fucking Washington.
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