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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:16 PM
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Extra Armor Could've Saved Hundreds of Marines -- Pentagon Study
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/06/politics/06cnd-armor.html?hp&ex=1136610000&en=cba30b2ab5b558f5&ei=5094&partner=homepage

A secret Pentagon study has found that at least 80 percent of the marines who have been killed in Iraq from wounds to their upper body could have survived if they had extra body armor. That armor has been available since 2003 but until recently the Pentagon has largely declined to supply it to troops despite calls from the field for additional protection, according to military officials.

The ceramic plates in vests currently worn by the majority of military personnel in Iraq cover only some of the chest and back. In at least 74 of the 93 fatal wounds that were analyzed in the Pentagon study of marines from March 2003 through June 2005, bullets and shrapnel struck the marines' shoulders, sides or areas of the torso where the plates do not reach.

Thirty-one of the deadly wounds struck the chest or back so close to the plates that simply enlarging the existing shields "would have had the potential to alter the fatal outcome," according to the study, which was obtained by The New York Times.

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:20 PM
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1. So could have an honorable President
Not this assclown we have in the White House now.

--p!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:21 PM
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2. A couple I know wanted to buy high quality body armor

for their Marine son before he was deployed to Iraq but were told it was "against regulations."
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:32 PM
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4. It should be against regulations for a parent to be put in a position
where they felt the need or necessity to provide armor.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:28 PM
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3. This is an outrage
the Pentagon has largely declined to supply it to troops despite calls from the field for additional protection,
"would have had the potential to alter the fatal outcome,"
This should not be true but something tell me it is.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:34 PM
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5. "We've given the Commanders in the field everything they've asked for"
said the asshole-in-chimp
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:37 PM
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7. Bush the Liar? That's new!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:36 PM
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6. Yet the freeps still claim the troops have all the armor necessary
Never mind that some have none and the ones who have it have inadequate armor, per the Pentagon's own study.

Oh, my. Freep heads will explode, again. Good thing there's nothing valuable in there.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:39 PM
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8. Freep heads will remain intact
NYT = liberal lies

and it's not that bad over there
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:50 PM
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9. They won't explode over the idea, but over the Pentagon source
And the fact that someone dared print it. I have the feeling the Pentagon will soon be painted as "librul." :eyes: They already hate the NYT. I think nearly everyone does. They tried to please everyone at one time or another and lost so many. Deservedly so, too.

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