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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:28 PM
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In view of all the tinfoil talk here recently, as anyone yet suggested
that Sharon's health condition may not be due to natural causes? That someone may have "William Casey"-ed him? (Casey, then CIA Director, died of a stroke the night before he was to testify before Congress on Watergate, ca. 1973.)

Why take out Sharon? Maybe because he was planning more land-for-peace action after the next election.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:30 PM
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1. He's 77, really fat, very stressful job. Natural causes, I should think.
Though Pat Robertson says God did it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:43 PM
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12. So was Casey!
:wow:

:tinfoilhat:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:31 PM
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2. I've heard a few people speculating that it was a Moussad hit...
:tinfoilhat:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:27 PM
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19. I was born in a tin foil diaper
But that is even too tinfoil for me...the man is elderly, hefty and under stress all the time, not much mystery there!

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:40 PM
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20. Tin foil diaper...LOL!
I tend to agree with you. Besides, I think we've got far more legitimate tinfoil material here on these shores!

:tinfoilhat: :scared: :tinfoilhat:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:31 PM
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3. More likely the obesity, age and stress combo...but anythings possible
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:31 PM
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He was 77, overweight and highly stressed...
Jon Stewart said the same thing in response to Robertson claiming that God "smote" Sharon. Comeon now..do the math and take off the tinfoil.

Doug D.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:31 PM
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4. Wasn't it actually Iran/Contra? Woodard got the "deathbed" interview.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:33 PM
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7. Oops--I think you may be right.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:34 PM
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9. Yes.
Unless he really died years earlier, and was replaced by an elderly Paul McCartney look-alike. Play some of Woodward's albums backwards, for the true story.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:39 PM
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11. Ah, the embarrassment of it all!
From an obit of the time:

"Casey's most recent notoriety came as the man-in-charge of the now well-known Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages deal. His death came at an inopportune time for most. It came too late to save the thousands of Iraqi lives which have been lost as a result of his masterminding the plot to deliver arms to Iran. It came too soon for him to testify before the Congressional committees who want to learn more details about his role in the affair."

And the death was attributed to brain cancer.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:45 PM
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13. I thought
you were saying it in a tongue-in-cheek manner.

I still find Mr. Woodward's claim to be a classic.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 12:18 PM
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26. You are too kind.
The truth of the matter is that I had a massive confabulative brainfart about Casey, Watergate & Iran-Contra.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:48 PM
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14. Hey, don't dis Paul! He was the "love, love, love" guy. (John was a...
...brat.)
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:32 PM
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5. I thought that immediatly.....
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:32 PM
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6. Casey died
of Brain cancer not a stroke. Could have hardly been engineered by devious persons.
:tinfoilhat:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:33 PM
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8. His son had just resigned from the Knesset
and this happened:
snip>
Israeli police have evidence that Prime Minister ARIEL SHARON's family received three million dollars in bride, an Israeli TV channel reported on Tuesday.

According to a report on Channel 10, SHARON’s family received the bribe from Australian billionaire Martim Shalff in connection with a scandal involving illegal campaign contributions made in 1999, when the Prime Minister was running for the leadership of the Likud Party.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10222
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:39 PM
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10. Gawd is striking him down
Well Sharon did disagree with bush on quite a few issues so hes obviously the brunt of Gawds will....

:) No offense against the real God.

This is the bushs Gawd who agrees with sinning as long as ya dont get caught.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:56 PM
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15. As to Casey's brain, as I recall, it went missing. And with it, the...
...knowledge of who briefed Reagan, and what Reagan knew, and when. I don't know what they were thinking--that Casey's brain could be hooked up to electrodes and made to speak at the hearings--like that guy in the old science fiction movie, "Donovan's Brain"?

Or is it MY brain that's a bit fuzzed right now, mixing up some of the many Reagan-Bush black ops? Not sure. Didn't his brain vanish?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:10 PM
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17. Yes, but I understand they are going to hunt for his easter eggs again
this year.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:03 PM
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16. Wait a minute -- wasn't Casey found dead

in a boat somewhere? If not, who was that?
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:27 PM
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18. Casey died
in one of the Big DC hospitals. He had been comatose for sometime...due to his brain tumor. Woodward claimed he snuck into his room and Casey (in a coma) told him that Reagan had authorized Iran Contra. Casey died shortly after that, peacefully drifted away from his comatose state.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:57 PM
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22. I believe that was William Colby
and that is quite an intriguing story too.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:42 PM
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21. Yeah, it's real unusual for a 77yo who weighs about 400 pounds
to have a stroke. Who ever would have expected such a thing?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 11:03 PM
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23. Or just a 77 year-old, period.

No one gets out of here alive, you know.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 11:41 PM
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25. I think it was around 300 lbs. It's amazing he didn't need a quintuple
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 11:42 PM by KoKo01
bypass! But, the reports were that his blood pressure was good and his cholesterol was low. :eyes: I guess he had very good genes. And, one would think with his important position that he was getting annual physicals...so the weight must not have been a concern with all other factors being normal.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 11:38 PM
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24. Welllll.............I think many folks just didn't want to suggest
how convenient it appeared to be. Especially since here in the US Doctors in better hospitals take their patients OFF blood thinners a few days before surgery because of the chance of excessive bleeding. Sharon was scheduled to have his "umbrella surgery" to repair the hole in his heart just the day after his stroke. Now...maybe they took him off the meds and he had the stroke because it was ready to happen and they just haven't mentioned that...although reports said the blood thinners made his operation for the stroke much more dangerous with bleeding.

Who knows. He might have had lousy doctors. Even the best Medical Centers and some of the most renowned doctors aren't always as great as one might think. Duke University ended up losing a famous Iraq patient because the wrong organ was delivered and placed in her body... And she had the BEST because Bush wanted to make it a PR Opportunity.

Who knows...but his situation does appear to have been mismanaged in them waiting so long to do the "umbrella surgery," if his condition was precarious enough that he was prone to another stroke. :shrug: Maybe he put off the surgery for his own reasons, too. And, that was fateful.
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