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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 01:48 AM
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Rage...rage...against the dying of the light.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

--Dylan Thomas

Just saw The Daily Show DVD pack: "Indecision 2004."

Do not go gentle...

Do not go gentle...

Never saw it before. Don't have TV. Early in the evening, Kerry winning.
Later...inexplicably...

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

America, do not go gentle...
Do not go silent...
Do not go disillusioned...
Do not go depressed...
Do not go disempowered...
Do not let yourselves be disenfranchised....

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light!



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 01:52 AM
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1. Do not go disempowered, disenfranchised... AMEN!
A quiet rant, but great!:thumbsup:
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tmooses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 01:57 AM
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3. Here, here! Never underestimate what these people in power now will do.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 01:55 AM
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2. Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

--Dylan Thomas

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 02:49 AM
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4. wish someone would've told that to KERRY when it mattered
"According to a member of John Edwards's family, who was present when the call came in, Kerry told his running mate--who urged Kerry to delay--that they must wait no longer to concede: "If we don't concede now," he told Edwards, "they'll call us 'sore losers.' ("So what?" Edwards snapped.)

from FOOLED AGAIN by Mark Crispin Miller, page 50

depressing as hell ain't it?

a friend of mine bought me that daily show dvd--i started watching it and had to turn it off.
i've lost my sense of humor over this. it's just not the least bit amusing or funny. it's one of the most tragic things i've ever witnessed.

and there are so MANY of us who are still so filled with sorrow and rage--thousands of us who still rage against the dying of the light
thousands of us who refuse...REFUSE...to go gentle into that good night.

and my heart remains broken. :cry: :nuke: :cry:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 03:34 AM
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5. Who's the DUer with the sig line:
"Rage, rage against the lying of the right!"
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:46 AM
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6. I don't know, but that's a great sig line!
Orleans, my advice: don't focus on Kerry. He's just one actor in this tragedy. For two years, they were setting up a fraudulent election SYSTEM--egregiously fraudulent, fraudulent on its face. How could the Dem Party leadership have gone along with this? That is the question we must ask. The Democratic county and state election officials. The DNC. Leaders in Congress. Have could they have let this happen without major, major protest?

By the time Kerry conceded, the election had long since been lost--in a thousand decisions along the way, by many people, to let Bushite corporations gain control of vote tabulation with 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, with virtually no audit-recount controls. I mean, it's not rocket scientist.

The failure was systemic--and catastrophic. By the time Kerry conceded, the news monopolies had FALSIFIED their own exit polls to "fit" the result of the Bushite corporations' secret formulae, Congress was already full of illegitimately elected people, and the Supreme Court had long since been bagged. I really don't think Kerry had any choice, from his point of view. No hope in Congress--full of Bush "pod people". No support from Dem leaders (some of whom were lying to him). No hope in the courts Ohio very corrupt, the Supreme Court a lost cause). Very hostile media. He would have been alone in a challenge, at all the upper levels of power--or at least that's how I think it must have looked to him. His main flaw may have been that he had no faith in the people--possibly because of his patrician background. I think the country WOULD have risen up in support of a challenge, if he had told people the truth, exposed the election system, and led the challenge.

But I really, really, really believe that we must STOP depending on leaders to save us. We are a DEMOCRACY. We must save OURSELVES. And how we're going to do that is hard, persistent, never-give-up work on election reform!

I DID find parts of the Daily Show DVD funny, and it was good to laugh. And I was so admiring of the show for its exposure of ELECTRONIC VOTING. They had two skits on it. I felt kinship with those guys, those fab comedians. They had to experience this catastrophe ON CAMERA, in real time, with no access to any of the analysis we did at DU, for instance, in the days after the election. And they did their best. It's now an historical document. I'm glad I saw it. I was hesitant, though. I'm with you there. I wondered, can I laugh at this--knowing what it has meant in tortured and slaughtered people, in the bankrupting of our country, and in the loss of our democracy?

I put it off, and then tonight decided to watch it--not realizing that it was January 6, the anniversary of the Boxer Rebellion--the historic challenge of the Ohio electors in Congress. Maybe that's why I watched it, being subconsciously aware of the anniversary. It did make me sad, ultimately. But I admired the brave work of the DS crew, who have done so much in helping young people understand our country's political scene. Do you know that MOST young people get their news from the Daily Show and from no other source? (My son told me that.)

I'm black Irish. We figure shit's going to happen. It always does. But you have to not let it get inside of you. And you have to never give up. Never!



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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:59 AM
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8. thank you for the nice post
and i know, i know...so much of what you said.
i know it was decided long before
i know, i know
but it's still there--the anger and the passion and the hurt
i don't forgive kerry--not yet, probably never
he should have done the right thing by all of us.
he should have stood by his word to fight
(all of us "soldiers" in this fight had his back, and we stood by him and kept fighting long after he fell.)

all blood under the bridge at this point.

and yes, i do know that young people get a lot of their news (or most/all of it) from the daily show.

and i watch it all the time--i think it's great.

you said: "shit's going to happen. It always does. But you have to not let it get inside of you."

that's what i have a problem with. i let it get to me. i can't help it. i let this whole thing get to me more than anything else that's happened in my life. and i feel it's aged me ten years.

i'm hoping -- so much -- for a better year. (i need a break!) :yoiks:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 03:00 AM
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9. thank you for the nice post
and i know, i know...so much of what you said.
i know it was decided long before
i know, i know
but it's still there--the anger and the passion and the hurt
i don't forgive kerry--not yet, probably never
he should have done the right thing by all of us.
he should have stood by his word to fight
(all of us "soldiers" in this fight had his back, and we stood by him and kept fighting long after he fell.)

all blood under the bridge at this point.

and yes, i do know that young people get a lot of their news (or most/all of it) from the daily show.

and i watch it all the time--i think it's great.

you said: "shit's going to happen. It always does. But you have to not let it get inside of you."

that's what i have a problem with. i let it get to me. i can't help it. i let this whole thing get to me more than anything else that's happened in my life. and i feel it's aged me ten years.

i'm hoping -- so much -- for a better year. (i need a break!) :yoiks:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:45 AM
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7. Another option:
Become the light that this nation needs to find its way.

"Be ye lamps unto yourselves.
Be your own reliance.
Hold to the truth within yourselves
as to the only lamp."
--Buddha
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 03:02 AM
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10. Back to School - Rodney Dangerfield
RIP big guy.
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