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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:03 PM
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Staff Sgt. Iraq: "It takes time to force change on people (that I hate)"
letter in the 'Stars and Stripes':

The BLUF in Iraq

{snip}

"Personally, I hate this country. I hated it the first time I was here. I will despise it and most of its ungrateful people until the day I die. Regardless of the reason we are here — weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein’s alleged ties to al-Qaida, or whatever — the BLUF is that we are here and have a job to do."

Staff Sgt. David J. Wallach
Forward Operating Base Summerall, Iraq

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=34135


The BLUF? Wallach's a dick who shouldn't be allowed to lead men, much less wear our nation's uniform. I wonder why the Iraqis don't appreciate all the hate this soldier has brought them?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:06 PM
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1. Love us or we'll kill you, right David? Do you love *W* for sending you?
Moran.
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War Pigs Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:12 PM
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2. Nice!!
I always ask pro-chimp supporters exactly how many Iraqis we will have to kill and maim before they will start loving us. And of course none of them served or have kids over there, Shocking:wtf:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:16 PM
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3. SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!
This is the exact kind of thing that makes me feel patriotic!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

The War Prayer
by Mark Twain

It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way.

Sunday morning came -- next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams -- visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation

*God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest! Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!*

Then came the "long" prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory --

An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued with his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!"

The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside -- which the startled minister did -- and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said:

"I come from the Throne -- bearing a message from Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import -- that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of -- except he pause and think.

"God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two -- one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this -- keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

"You have heard your servant's prayer -- the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it -- that part which the pastor -- and also you in your hearts -- fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. the *whole* of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory--*must* follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

(*After a pause.*) "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!"

It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.

Twain apparently dictated it around 1904-05; it was rejected by his publisher, and was found after his death among his unpublished manuscripts. It was first published in 1923 in Albert Bigelow Paine's anthology, Europe and Elsewhere.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:26 PM
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8. "I thought we should act as their protector -
-not try to get them under our heel.... But now -- why, we have got into a mess, a quagmire from which each fresh step renders the difficulty of extrication immensely greater." -Mark Twain
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:19 PM
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4. Wow a 43 year old E-5 trying to smakdown on Murtha.
Edited on Sat Jan-07-06 04:20 PM by TrueAmerican
Also on the same page:

Murtha owes GIs apology
I am an infantry soldier with Task Force Panther from Pennsylvania. We are currently deployed in the Anbar province of Iraq.

I have also been a registered Democrat for 25 years (approximate 43 years old?). Over the years I’ve watched and warned that our party was falling into an abyss of absolutely reprehensible behavior.

Was the Democratic Party so afraid of a victory in Iraq that, three weeks before its national election, it would coerce its last respected member in Congress to abandon U.S. soldiers while still in the field? How dare John Murtha, a Vietnam veteran, sell out soldiers in combat right before the end of a successful mission! His behavior is inexcusable; he should be ashamed.

I am sure the terrorist insurgency is grateful to him for announcing our defeat days before yet another victory in this country. He owes every American soldier a formal apology.

He could have been remembered as a distinguished member of Congress, but now he’ll only be remembered as a foolish old man who sold out his country to a den of vipers in the Democratic Party. I thank him for proving once and for all that the Democratic Party is the party of the sore loser, the selfish whiner and the gutless coward.

Sgt. Mark Russak
Camp Habbaniyh, Iraq

(Sgt = E-5) Most all soldiers make E-5 in 6 years. Many in 4 years.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:22 PM
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5. I made E-5 in less than 18 months.
Edited on Sat Jan-07-06 04:23 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: And I was a draftee. (If you don't think that makes a difference, you weren't in Viet Nam.)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:25 PM
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6. Murtha isn't a war criminal like dear Bush
Who isn't killing innocent people for greed.
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:27 PM
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9. I made E-5 in under four years
This guy has to be a complete loser. I can only recall one dirt bag that was still an E-5 at the twenty year point.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:28 PM
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10. Ummm, some of us dumb draftees made E-5 in 18 months
But then again, Rumsfeld told me draftees "added no value, no advantage, really to the United States armed services."
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 10:01 PM
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16. Somehow I don't think he was really a Democrat
In fact, I notice Repubs trying this little stealth approach to manipulating public opinion. . .another example of their love of truth and country.
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 11:45 PM
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19. He could be AGR and they don't move up nearly as fast because the
positions just don't become available. There are some people that retire with 20 years at E5 or E6 if they have been in the AGR program. My husband is AGR and will retire this September with 20 years in. He just made E7 when he was activated and deployed to Iraq back in 2003 so it's not so unusual. There are only so many E7 slots in our state and people usually have to retire or die to give them up. If you want to make E8, you have to get really, really lucky!

This guy sounds like a jackass regardless and I doubt he's ever really been a Dem either.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:25 PM
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7. BLUF = "Bottom Line Up Front" (a grunt's reality)
Edited on Sat Jan-07-06 04:28 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: It also means "get to the point quickly" as in a memo - one-page and brief.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 05:15 PM
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12. BLUF
This man trains our troops, and I suspect, theirs as well. I can imagine the hatred that he conveys to the men and women under his authority. Time for this man to retire. BLUF. IIHATDWI (If I had anything to do with it)
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:33 PM
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11. Karl is that you
n\t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 07:23 PM
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14. I was thinking --> PSYOPS hard at work!
I know that PSYOPS is usually designed to alter the behavior of foreign populations - but we are all pretty clear that those talented PSYOPS folks work in *mysterious* ways.

If anyone is looking for work there are 13 PSYOPS positions open in the Army right now!

Function - Public Relations
Job Title - Psychological Operations Specialist

Job Description - The role of Psychological Operations is to alter the behavior of foreign populations in a manner consistent with United States diplomatic, national security and foreign policy objectives. A Psychological Operations Specialist is an information and media specialist who can assess the information needs of a target population and develop and deliver the right message at the right time and place to create the intended result.

As a member of the Army Special Operations community, the Psychological Operations Specialist is primarily responsible for the analysis, development and distribution of information used for information and psychological effect.

As a Psychological Operations Specialist your duties might include:
o Researching and analyzing of methods of influencing foreign population from a variety of information sources.
o Developing marketing and media products that includes handbills, trifolds, brochures, leaflets, posters, television commercials, web postings and/or radio scripts.
o Operating and maintaining Psychological Operations equipment such as ground tactical vehicles and shelter systems, loudspeaker systems, state of the art computer, analog and digital recording and playback devices and communication systems.
o Disseminating products that include the development, production and broadcasting of relevant information via television, radio, internet and newspaper media.
o Traveling to overseas locations in peace, crisis and conflict to assist U.S. and foreign governments, militaries and civilian populations.

Job training for a Psychological Operations Specialist consists of nine weeks of Basic Combat Training, where you'll learn basic Soldiering skills, and 11 to 15 weeks of Advanced Individual Training (AIT) where you'll learn the skills of a Psychological Operations specialist.

The skills you'll learn as a Psychological Operations Specialist may help prepare you for a future with the Department of Defense, State, other federal government agencies or related fields in the commercial industry. The training you receive in researching, analyzing, documenting, developing and distributing information may prepare you for other fields, such as public relations, sales, marketing and advertising.

REQUIREMENTS
Applicants must qualify for a Federal Security Clearance, and be physically qualified for Airborne as per the Initial Entry Physical Exam. Applicants will need to qualify on the ASVAB and pass a physical examination prior to training. Bachelor’s degree is preferred, but not necessary. In order to secure this training, this career is best secured up to 365 days prior to graduation, so Seniors are encouraged to apply now for start dates next summer.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:58 PM
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15. PSYOPS has been hard at work in the USA for decades
They've just turned up the volume lately & added their very own News Outlet.




Thanks for the info.

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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 05:37 PM
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13. Who cares what our job is we have a job to do.
Edited on Sat Jan-07-06 05:37 PM by K-W
We fight because we fight, its the american way.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 10:14 PM
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17. can't blame you for hating iraq. most any of us would.
Edited on Sat Jan-07-06 10:17 PM by enki23
but calling iraqis "ungrateful" is pretty fucking stupid. "the people" didn't invite us, bud. the "commander in chief" told you they did, i know. but he lied. he does that a lot. best wishes from me, and i mean this, toward your getting the fuck out alive in one piece. and soon. please don't let them bullshit you into going back.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 10:27 PM
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18. don't worry about the Sgt.. He's got his own mission to accomplish.
He wants to stay until the 'job' is done. "It takes time to force change on people."
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