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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:05 PM
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OK this suspected freeper's bumpersticker made no sense
I was gonna shop and pull in to a handicap parking place but they were all filled. I always check to see if they all had their tags and this one didn't. On the back of that car were 4 bumper stickers mostly about Roe vs Wade, your mother had you and not an abortion etc. The one that really stuck out was a large one that said

WAR DOESN'T DECIDE WHO IS RIGHT IT DECIDES WHO IS LEFT

I placed a small note on the car to please display your handicap card and I was notifying the Police.

I guess I decided who was right even though I am left.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:07 PM
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1. Seems kinda ANTI-war to me.
It's basically saying that war isn't about right and wrong. It just kills a bunch of people indiscriminately.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:09 PM
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2. The "who is left" part indicates that those who don't
support the war are both leftists and overly idealistic. It's a sweeping generalization, but it probably makes the driver of the car, who enjoys parking illegally in handicapped spots, feel morally superior. ;-)
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:15 PM
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12. Also could be part of "Left Behind"
In that the rapture will decide the people "left" to fight the war.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:11 PM
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3. that's how I read it
as in, war decides who is remaining.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:12 PM
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4. Same here
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:12 PM
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5. No, I don't think so but maybe you're right who knows?
I took it because of the context of the other stickers, she had a W sticker also.
But of course freepers make no sense.

The one sticker she should of had and didn't was a handicap sticker.

:shrug:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:12 PM
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6. Nope..
It's saying that it isn't about right or wrong, it's about who is left.. After the war is over.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:17 PM
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13. That's what I mean.
Don't freepers generally think that they're always right? And that winning the war means that they were right all along?

:shrug:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:22 PM
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19. I'm confused by what you wrote, but let me make myself more clear..
They are making it out to say that they don't care if the war is right or wrong.. They don't care if it's a war based on lies, they don't care if it's civilians being killed.. All that is important in their view is who is left when the war is finished, and that they are on the "winning" team. The team that's left. I'm pretty good when it comes to this stuff.. I'm a former puke. It isn't about right and wrong for them, it's about being on the team that wins..
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:27 PM
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22. Thank you for joining our winning team of moral behavior


I was more pissed at the parking place taken and no handicap sticker but then when I saw the bumper-stickers
I was confused. I've seen it before as an anti-war sign but not in the context of her W sticker and anti abortion stickers.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:17 PM
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14. Why the W sticker?
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:25 PM
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20. I'm confused.. I'm stating it does not seem anti-war to me...
It is pro-war in my opinion..
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:25 AM
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30. No, I get what you mean.
But I HAVE seen those same bumperstickers on cars covered with Peace on Earth stickers -- *their* point being that war is a pointless tragedy: in the end, after wars are over, you *still* don't know who was right and who was wrong. All you know is lots of people are dead. There are no Good Guys or Bad Guys -- just dead guys and alive guys.

The fact is... that bumper sticker is TRUE: Just because you can defeat another country militarily doesn't mean you have the right to do so.

But of course... I can see that SOME right-wingers think that's just dandy. (But I still maintain that most pro-war people will argue that BEING RIGHT is important -- they just think that their side is always right.)
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:13 PM
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7. Ummm...I second the "anti-war" sentiment.
I think that in a wierd twist, that's an anti-war bumper sticker.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:13 PM
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8. i would interpret it
as war deciding who is left after the fighting is over . . . not political leaning. however, the guy with the bumpersticker probably reads it as political left-leaning.

i think he misinterpreted and inadvertently put the wrong sticker on his car!

ellen fl
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:17 PM
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15. I think you're right. nt
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:19 PM
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17. That's what I think she misinterpeted the sticker
and the parking place.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:44 PM
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25. That's it
The dum ass Freeper thought it was a jab at "The Left" I'm surprised that he didn't put the W bumper sticker on upside down to stand for M oron.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:13 PM
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9. thats my tagline and i aint
NO FREEPER......:)
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:14 PM
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10. It means only the evil ones (the war-makers) survive.
Edited on Sat Jan-07-06 08:19 PM by BuyingThyme
"Left" and "right" have nothing to do with political affiliation.

Kill or be killed. It's right-wing nonsense.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:14 PM
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11. I'm thinking "who is left (behind)"
Fundie crap.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:19 PM
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16. i saw one last week that left me scratching my head...
... i know it was a rightwing bumper sticker b/c the b*tch driving it had a bush/cheney sticker on as well...

it said:

GAY MARRIAGE (doesn't equal sign) HOMELAND SECURITY


:wtf:
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:22 PM
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18. It is easily possible to be anti-abortion and anti-war both. NT
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:25 PM
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21. This can be interpreted as a pacifist sentiment as well... basically
saying that war doesn't determine whose side was correct, it merely kills some people and leaves others as survivors.

It certainly could be a freeperish sentiment aggressively glorifying war as well (as in, my, tough, side, will be the survivors, and your pacifist hippie side will be dead in the rubble).

I think the style of the sticker and accompanying graphic, if any, would help in determining the intent. As plain text it would be a bit hard for me to tell.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 08:32 PM
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23. I agree with that meaning. The freeper didnt understand the bumper sticker
and thought it was an anti-left message.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:19 PM
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24. Bumperstickers Translated Here
It sounds to me like the sticker is saying the one with the biggest army wins, i.e. might equals right. It doesn't matter what your reasons are for fighting, the biggest and baddest wins even if they are wrong. It's really rather indefinite though -- I wish you could have asked what the *driver* thinks it means.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 10:08 PM
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28. It means "I've got two good legs and arms and no handicap sticker. . .
so I can park in this god-damned space if I want and no wheelchair geek is gonna stop me."
Actually, I suspect this is probably true - wingnuts are notorious for little political actions, including resentful tirades against "special rights" for Americans with disabilities. I wouldn't put it past one of them at all to park in that space and justify it in this manner. Sounds like wingnut "morality" to me.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:44 PM
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26. It's a Bertrand Russell Quote, and definitely anti-war
along the lines of might does not make right.

Of course, the driver might well have misunderstood it ...
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:51 PM
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27. murder does that too!
haha
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 10:13 PM
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29. It's an anti-war bumper sticker. That saying has been around a long time.
I agree with Silverhair. You can be pro-birth and anti-war.

If "you" have been aborted, then you really cannot bring up the issue with your mother, can you? I always found that bumper sticker to be a bit silly.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:50 AM
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31. I like it and wish I had one
It is truth and I love truth.
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