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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:27 AM
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don't give in to rude, pushy born again types, they're trying to take over
they are getting quite defensive and they feel that they are somehow threatened, so they threaten everyone else who isn't just like them, so don't give in to any of them, ever, on any level.

we all think that it can't happen here, but it's happening anyway. they are not harmless, and they are not going away, they are growing in numbers and they are organized and they are dead set on converting the nation to their cultish thought patterns. don't let them.

don't let them tell us what we can or cannot watch on t.v., don't let them morph christ into some war god. don't let them get away with sermonizing in public, don't let them shove creationism in our children's faces.

and most importantly, don't underestimate them, and don't think that they are not dangerous to us all, because they truly, truly are.

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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:32 AM
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1. They think the "godless heathens" are trying to take over...
as well as the gays with their "agenda". :rofl: They must be real scared.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:36 AM
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2. Resist Christofascism!
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 06:36 AM by Moochy
I totally agree, but according to this other thread, the poor little protesting fundies deserve our respect right... :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=78886&mesg_id=79244
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:43 AM
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3. I don't see them as harmless, nor do I underestimate them
I see them for the very real threat that they are. I see how they are creeping into every facet of our civilization and slowly but steadily taking over everything, and turning us into a Theocracy. It scares the crap out of me, and I'm not going to take it lying down.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:16 AM
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6. Mother Jones ...
Did a whole issue on this in december, they did a one page orbit of influence that really highlighted the many POWERFUL groupings of religious extremist groups that have considerable media and political operations pushing their agendas ...

American Family Associations - Agape Press, a national religious news service, American Family Association, a political network best known for campaigns against shows like SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS, Center for Law and Policy, a legal advocacy group and the American Family Radio Network, a national radio news and talk network.

Christian Broadcasting Network - American Center for Law and Justice, a major Christian right lawfirm, Regent University, Christian Broadcasting Network, Pat Robertson’s operation including the 700 club, Operation Blessing, a Christian charity that is one of FEMA’s top recommended private agencies for Katrina relief, and the Christian Coalition of America, which reinvented the Christian right in the 90s under Ralph Reed and still is prominent in the South.

Focus on the Family - Focus on the Family, James Dobson’s advocacy and multimedia empire, Focus on the Family Radio, program on more than 1,000 radio stations in the country, Family Research Council, lobbying group headed by Tony Perkins, led campaign to characterize Terri Shiavo as “awake and aware,” 34 state level “Family Policy Councils,” Dobson satellites that lobby state lawmakers on issues such as same-sex marriage.

Traditional Values Coalition - National political organization founded by the Reverend Lou Sheldon known for its crusade against the “homosexual agenda.”

Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church - Family Federation for World Peace and Unification, his church, University of Bridgeport, News World Communications, parent company of Moon’s media operations, Washington Times, Moon’s flagship daily newspaper, Insight Magazine, Moons answer to Time and Newsweek online, United Press International, the daily wire service.

Campaign for Working Families - Lobbying group headed by Gary Bauer, is the Christian’s largest PAC.

National Christian Foundation - Single largest funder of religious right organizations.

Free Congress Foundation - Washington policy shop that helped launch the Heritage Foundation and other right wing groups.

Council for National Policy - Group that helps to met the religious right with the rest of the right wing.

Corral Ridge Ministries - Broadcast and political arm of D James Kennedy’s Corral Ridge Presbyterian Church, Truth That Transform, radio program on 736 stations, Corral Ridge Hour, TV program on 653 stations, Center for Christian Statemanship, Capital Hill evangelism operation, Center for Reclaiming America, grassroots training and lobbying network, Knox Theological Seminary.

Chalcedon Foundation and Fieldstead and Co. - Chalcedon Foundation is a seminal think tank of Christian Reconstructionist movement founded by R. J. Rushdoony that includes Vision America, a New Christian right mobilization group headed by Rick Scarborough that is active in attacks on federal judiciary and the Rutherford Institute, a legal strategy group that made headlines in handling the Paula Jones Case. Fieldstead and Co. is a funding agency and major sponsor of ultra conservative California politics and the anti-gay-marriage movement that includes the Institute on Religion and Democracy, which attacks the mainstream churches involvement with “radical forms of feminism, environmentalism, pacifism, multi-culturalism, revolutionary socialism and sexual liberation,” Discovery Institute, leading advocate of Intelligent Design, Salem Communication, 103 radio station network.

Thomas Road Baptist Church - Jerry Falwell’s megachurch, Liberty University, Moral Majority Coalition, Falwell’s political arm, Liberty Channel, a Conservative Christian news and culture network available via satellite or cable.

Foundation for Moral Law - Think tank created by Ten Commandments judge Roy Moore.

Alliance Defense Fund - Major legal strategy group founded by top ministries, causes include the Silver Ring Thing, a Bush administration supported abstinence curriculum urging students to “commit themselves to Christ.”

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:44 AM
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10. Amen! great list, thanks for compiling it
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:37 AM
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21. I get MJ and read that issue
And it is obvious the threat they've become if MJ devoted an entire special issue to them. :scared:
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:20 AM
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20. I've been fighting the Fundamentalists for 12 years.
I have no illusions as to what they are about.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:03 AM
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4. It's amazing how close they are in ideology to the very ones.....
they consider terrorists.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:14 AM
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5. They have been funded/influenced largely from overseas, for many years...
...though they think they are acting in "America's" best interests.

Follow the money. Google - "unification church" - "sun myung moon" - "Washington Times" (founded & owned by Moon) - "United Press International" (bought by Moon) - keywords -- Moon, coronation, Dirksen, building

Moon was convicted in the U.S. of tax fraud but his money later bought him credebility...

What's even scarier are the people behind Moon.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:27 AM
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9. "What's even scarier are the people behind Moon."
And they would be...?
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:51 AM
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11. would like to know too....
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:16 AM
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13. Poppy Bush is buddy buddy with Moon. eom
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 09:14 AM
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17. But is Moon behind Poppy or is Poppy behind Moon?
eom.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:17 AM
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7. Obstinate and Ignorant...they Plod On... You are right to sound the Horn.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:18 AM
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8. The fundies became most emboldened by
the GOP victories in '94 and 2000. The GOP had been lying to them for years about being the "party of moral/family values." When politicians that the fundies backed started getting to DC, they saw it as a "mandate". I can't wait to see how many of those politicians are involved in the Abramoff mess. I believe that the fundie power base in DC is about to shrink quickly.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:55 AM
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12. Sure they are, dangerous as hell is a myth such as heaven is
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 08:40 AM by madokie
I don't know if I was born independent or learned it but don't try to sell me something or dictate to me, talk to me, show me and I will make up my own mind, good or bad. I guess the best sermon I heard, the real telling one, was about, do as I say, not as I do, they lost me there. If there is an after life I'm looking forward to it but I won't be devastated to learn there isn't and it will be neither heaven nor hell. Christianity is a tool for total control, simple.

too early for flames, as they say turn the other cheek
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:23 AM
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14. I've Known About Their Threat For Years
They *are* trying to take over. If they weren't, they would just send their kids to Christian schools when they didn't like what the public schools were teaching. They have that choice, but they don't take it. That proves that they are trying to control everything.

Tammy
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:28 AM
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15. They are dangerous.
They will lie, cheat, steal, and some will even kill to achieve their goals.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:28 AM
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22. Yes
and they will be self-righteous about it too cause they are doing God's will. :eyes:
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 09:06 AM
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16. christo-fascists or the american taliban
Bombing and killing in the name of Jesus is no different then bombing and killing in the name of Allah.

I blame the leaders who are guiding the faithful towards this meme. These radical leaders understand the power of
belief and use it for their own agenda. It's sad really. I just wish these "believers" would have
the wherewithall to resist the imposters.

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Glidescube Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 09:35 AM
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18. well actually
I remember a bumper sticker that said, "Dear Lord Jesus, Please protect me from your flowers." Which also reminds me of the one that read: "who would Jesus bomb?"

I am a Protestant Christian but on the liberal level that Christ himself was. Jesus was a cool, cool dude. He had long hair in a place were such was deemed improper, had a beard, wore sandals and never really owned a damn thing in his entire life. Hell man if he had shown up a GOP convention today they would have released the hounds on him.

He was the total antithesis of what a Neocon fundie type are today; by today's standards HE WAS A HIPPIE!!

Which brings me to these points:
Jesus never once talked against homosexuality
Ne cons want gays exterminated.

Jesus preached forgives and turning the other cheek.
Neocons want the death penalty and horrible jail conditions for those too poor to higher a good lawyer.

When asked about taxes Jesus simply told us to Pay them and shun materialism.
Neocons will label you a commie and preach how lowering taxes for the rich is a good thing.

Jesus destroyed the Kiosks that were doing business at God temple.
Neocons will destroy temples that will interfere with their business.

Jesus heeled the sick for free.
Neocons would put protect their profits before protecting your well being.

And to think these bastards would hide behind such a wonderful wonderful person, tarnishing his name and dirtying his reputation when the man himself taught is to do exactly the opposite of what the neocon is doing today.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:54 AM
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19. Hi Glidescube!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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