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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:28 PM
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Bush trying to round up all photos of President with Abramoff
Bush trying to round up all photos of President with Abramoff
RAW STORY


Aides to President George W. Bush are trying to identify all the photos that may exist of the President and lobbyist Jack Abramoff together, TIME’s White House Correspondents Mike Allen and Matt Cooper report in Monday editions, RAW STORY has learned. From TIME:

#Bracing for the worst, Administration officials obtained from the Secret Service a list of all the times Abramoff entered the White House complex, and they scrambled to determine the reason for each visit, TIME reports. Abramoff attended Hanukkah and holiday events at the White House, according to an aide who has seen the list. Press secretary Scott McClellan said Abramoff might have attended large gatherings with Bush but added, “The President does not know him, nor does the President recall ever meeting him.”

President Bush and Tom DeLay: The President had scored 10 points higher than former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay in the Representative’s district in 2004, and that was only after Bush had recorded a telephone message to help rally local Republicans. “I can’t believe I had to do robocalls for him,” the President said bitingly to an Oval Office visitor.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_trying_to_round_up_all_0108.html
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:29 PM
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1. scrapbook?
Bush feeling nostalgic?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:29 PM
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2. I have $US50 for DU
for the first one posted here - no photoshops allowed:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:31 PM
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4. not even a Brokeback Mountain one?
that movie poster is going to win an Oscar for most-parodied. :-)
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:00 PM
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13. Yeah, that thought occured to me too. :-) n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:17 PM
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15. hahahahaha
no just W and Jack of all scandals.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:12 PM
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19. Brokeback Mountain? > Bush & Gonzalez...!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:30 PM
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3. Bush doesn't like to work even when a RoboBush is doing it...
Too freakin' lazy to do robocalls!
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:32 PM
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5. run you little slime ball, run.
but you can't hide for long. The "internets" have long memories and deep resources. A big fuck you to our little boy pResident.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:33 PM
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6. post'm if you got'm
i haven't seen any, yet, but there must be a few out there still?



peace
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:37 PM
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10. No luck
I looked last week. Tried googling images for things like Bush + golf, Bush + fund raiser but nothing so far.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:38 PM
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11. There is massive scrubbing going on as we type
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:34 PM
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7. Let them scurry
around under the carpet like the cockroaches they are. No matter what they do, more and more evidence of the Bush/Abramoff :hug:

will surface . BWAHAHAHAHA

:nopity:
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:34 PM
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8. Good luck there-I have been looking for days and haven't found
a thing. LOL
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:38 PM
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12. Some photographer out there is desperately searching through his archives
For a picture he knows he has. A picture that wasn't worth anything at the time, but will be worth more than a hundred thousand dollars today. Remember that Time cover photo of Clinton hugging Monica? That was the same thing.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:29 PM
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32. Now you know why they anthraxed the American Media building
in Lantana.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:36 PM
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9. Abramoff attended Hanukkah event at the White House?
Can we please find a picture of Bush wearing a Yarmulke?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:15 PM
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29. Babbs would probly fall down dead, seeing that! Ha!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:17 PM
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37. And so would the Christian Right
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:03 PM
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14. rewriting history - Texas Observer - great story on meeting AT White House
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 01:04 PM by phoebe
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:21 PM
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16. How is this a justifiable taxpayer expense?
We're now paying the Secret Service to help cover up any connections to a criminal? How is that right? I guess this is why the cover-up is worse than the crime.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:22 PM
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17. Falsification of history
Falsification of history



The Soviet Union
The most common examples of photograph alteration and falsification come from communist Russia. Unwanted persons, so-called "enemies of the people" were not only killed, but also removed from photographs where their presence was unwanted. Photographs were altered with the intent of changing the past.


Leon Trotsky was a close friend of Lenin, and shared his idealistic ideas about the communist state. In the following photograph he can be seen together with Lenin.




In the second photo, he is gone.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hick0088/classes/csci_2101/false.html
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 03:02 PM
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23. WOW! nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 04:36 PM
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26. Wild site, KPete! Thanks for the link! n/t
PB
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:32 PM
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35. .....and that's Russia style.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:39 PM
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36. He's not gone, he just dropped his monacle.
and bent down to pick it up.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:03 PM
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18. Here's one:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:14 PM
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20. Just use Google images - Bush Tom Delay
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:17 PM
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21. Nice try Bush. You two were in College Republicans at same time.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:23 PM
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22. Ecameras may make finding pics of Abramoff & Bush impossible -
The photographer who came up with *the* photograph of Monica hugging Bill was one of the few who still used film at the time. He kept his film stocks.

Other photographers were there and taking pics with ecameras, but pics that are deemed 'not significant' are deleted from computers after a bit of time has passed.

Even if there were pics of Bush & Abramoff together at the WH lunch which tribes donated $25,000 (?) to make happen - if the pics were taken by someone with an ecamera they might be long gone.

Also - I think Abramoff's reputation was such that * possibly would have made a point of not posing for a pic with him.

:shrug:
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:12 PM
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27. not so...
Any Professional Photographer would NEVER get rid of hard copies, REGARDLESS of what type of photo shoot it is. The original RAW image file may get dumped (it is uncompressed and takes up space), but evrything gets converted to JPGs or TIFFs before archiving to CD or DVD (often in triplicate). This is their bread and butter. If there is a picture out there, rest assured it's not not surfacing because a photographer "threw it away"... just wouldn't happen.


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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:12 PM
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38. I am willing to believe, but read the opposite a few years ago...
The point being that news photographers aren't real photojournalists or photographers anymore.

:hi:
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:31 PM
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41. one caveat i can think of...
if a photographer is ON CONTRACT to a news service, THEY may own the "negatives" and refuse to release them or (gasp) destroy them, but believe me it is nothing a Photographer would do intentionally... storage space is cheap.



in eastern Massachusetts
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 03:43 PM
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24. The Pimping of the Presidency (Texas Observer)
Jack Abramoff and Grover Norquist Billing Clients for Face Time with G.W. Bush
BY LOU DUBOSE

... On May 9, 2001, when he ushered the two tribal chiefs into the White House to meet the President, The Washington Post story that would end his lobbying career and begin two Senate Committee investigations was three years away ... Abramoff brought the Coushatta and Choctaw chiefs to Washington at the request of Grover Norquist ...

Since we first reported the White House ATR fundraiser and the $1 million contribution to the Capital Athletic Foundation (see “K Street Croupiers,” November 19, 2004), the Coushattas, speaking through Austin attorneys at Hance, Scarborough, Wright, Ginsburg & Brusilow, and through Louisiana political consultant Roy Fletcher, have vociferously denied that tribal Chairman Poncho visited the White House after contributing $25,000 to ATR. They also denied the $1 million contribution to Abramoff’s foundation. Recently the story has changed. Or at least the version told by the majority that controls the council has begun to change. Two minority members of the five-seat council have pointed to the pay-to-play meeting with President Bush and the $1 million contribution to Abramoff as examples of the council’s financial mismanagement. One of the two members of the minority faction, David Sickey, has regularly made himself available to the press. Normally, press inquiries to the council majority are answered by Hance Scarborough, by Roy Fletcher, or occasionally by sources close to the council majority.

According to a source close to the tribal majority, Chairman Poncho recently “revisited that issue” of his visit to the White House. He had previously denied it because he thought he was responding to press inquiries that implied he had a one-on-one meeting with Bush. He now recalls that he in fact did go to the White House on May 9, 2001. Tribal attorney Kathryn Fowler Van Hoof went with him, although she did not get into the meeting with the President. That meeting lasted for about 15 minutes and was not a one-on-one meeting. At the meeting, Bush made some general comments about Indian policy but did not discuss Indian gaming. Abramoff was at the meeting—for which he charged the Coushatta Tribe $25,000. The change in Poncho’s position is odd in light of the fact that he and his spokespersons have maintained for more than a year that he did not meet with President Bush in May 2001 ...

Norquist has not responded to inquiries about using the White House as a fundraiser. It is, however, a regular ATR practice to invite state legislators and tribal leaders who have supported ATR anti-tax initiatives to the White House for a personal thank-you from the President. A source at ATR said no money is ever accepted from participants in these events. The $25,000 check from the Coushattas suggests that, at least in this instance, Norquist’s organization made an exception. The $75,000 collected from the Mississippi Choctaws and two corporate sponsors mentioned in Abramoff’s e-mail suggests there were other exceptions. Norquist recently wrote to the tribes who paid to attend White House meetings. His story regarding that event is also evolving. The contributions, he told tribal leaders in letters that went out in May, were in no way related to any White House event. That doesn’t square with the paper trail Abramoff and Norquist left behind, which makes it evident that they were selling access to the President ...

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle_new.asp?ArticleID=13

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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 04:31 PM
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25. Moon Shadow



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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:13 PM
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28. WH admitted Bush met with Abramoff
White House Admits President Met with Abramoff
May 6, 2005


WASHINGTON, DC – Amid new revelations about the extensive contacts between Jack Abramoff and the Bush administration, including at least one meeting with President Bush, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean reiterated his call for President Bush to return all the money that the scandal-plagued lobbyist raised for the President’s campaign fund.

Yesterday, a White House spokesperson acknowledged to the Associated Press that the President “had met on occasion” with Abramoff.

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/05/white_house_adm.php

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:33 PM
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42. Beautiful....
glad someone is rat-holing.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:41 AM
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45. Oh Bush is scrambling and tripping and falling all over himself
its so mauch fun

pass the popcorn
:popcorn:
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:43 AM
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46. So McClellan is LYING AGAIN, eh? n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:15 PM
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30. "You can run but you can't hide" n/t
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:23 PM
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31. Does this work?


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:30 PM
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33. Not Abramoff
but not a bad idea to find and copy every pic we can find of Bush with indicted political leaders and lobbyists.

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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:31 PM
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34. I guess it is Delay.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:16 PM
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39. No it's the guy who bribed Cunningham.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:20 PM
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40. "I fell in to a burnin' ring of fire. ..I went down down down"
Oh what a tangled web he weaves.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:49 PM
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43. Bush doesn't know Abramoff? NOT SO according to Grover Norquist!!
This isn't a photo, but unless Grover was lying, it seems he disagrees with Bush's and Scotty's assertion that Bush 'doesn't know Abramoff'!! :rofl:

Someone should pass this along to one of the members of the press corps and let them read it to Scotty tomorrow!! Hey, Scotty, is Grover telling a lie here?

Norquist has strongly defended his friend Abramoff and said that the lobbyist never asked him to do anything improper. In an interview with National Journal last year, after the Abramoff scandal broke, Norquist charged that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., chairman of the Indian Affairs Committee, who has been leading the Senate inquiry into Abramoff's alleged lobbying abuses, "hates Bush and hates DeLay, and Jack is an ally and friend of both." A McCain spokesman pointed out that the senator has said he "hates corruption," not DeLay or Bush. Norquist, who opposed McCain and backed Bush vigorously in 2000, said in the interview that Abramoff would be "fine" in the end, calling him "hardworking, smart, and completely up-front."

http://www.uncommonsensetv.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=772

I just started looking and that was the first thing I found so far.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:28 AM
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44. Poppy Bush was photographed with Kevin Battise - Coushatta tribal member
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 01:40 AM by phoebe
Wednesday, June 19, 2002

http://www.texnews.com/1998/2002/texas/tribe0619.html.

snip

Kevin Battise told the Senate Indian Affairs Committee that the East Texas tribe was unfairly forced to agree not to run gambling operations on their lands in exchange for official recognition as a sovereign nation. That 1987 agreement is known as the Texas Restoration Act.

"They coerce a small impoverished tribe into signing an agreement under duress and then later enact perhaps the most sweeping lottery act in the country," Battise said.

Battise and the tribe underscored their testimony with photos of former President George Bush during a tour of the Alabama-Coushatta reservation and another of then-Texas Gov. John Connally on the cover of a Saturday Evening Post. In the photos, Bush and Connally wear bolo ties depicting twin waterfowl, the tribes' symbol.


John Connally died in '92/'93?
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