I'm sorry but, Jill Carroll looks she gained weight in captivity.

[Jara sang]

82 days? Come on. I really don't think she was held captive at all. I believe the whole thing was a ruse perpetrated by the CIA. Joseph Harrison of the Christian Science Monitor, is known to have ties with the CIAs Operation MOCKINGBIRD. CSM is also a favorite of CIA agents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Journalism is a perfect cover for CIA agents. People talk freely to journalists, and few think suspiciously of a journalist aggressively searching for information. Journalists also have power, influence and clout. Not surprisingly, the CIA began a mission in the late 1940s to recruit American journalists on a wide scale, a mission it dubbed Operation MOCKINGBIRD. The agency wanted these journalists not only to relay any sensitive information they discovered, but also to write anti-communist, pro-capitalist propaganda when needed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Christian_Science_Monitor

The Monitor (or "CSM" as it is known in the intelligence community) is widely read by CIA and other intelligence agency analysts because of the newspaper's attention to accuracy and global perspective.

[China_cat]

1. She said that was one thing that happened to

her because she was afraid to offend her captors by not eating everything they gave her and, of course, she was not permitted the exercize she normally would have gotten.

Don't we get enough of 'blame the victim' on Republican sites? Do you need to bring it here, too?

[Jara sang]

7. You are so right.

I'll just continue to believe everything the media spoon feeds me. Also, I didn't realize this was a partisan issue.

[China_cat]

18. What media? From her own mouth.

[monktonman]

2. Gained weight?

So what.
sounds like some shit I saw on fox the other day comparing her to patti hearst.
Maybe she was just some unlucky girl trying to do something good for someone and got caught up in a mess.
would that be so hard to believe? Does everything have to have a spy novel attached to it.

[Warpy]

3. Oh, please, spare me

all the second guessing because a woman dared to break a rigid cultural taboo and GAIN WEIGHT while her activity was curtailed by captivity.

I'd expect to see this on the online right wing lunatic asylum, but not here.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

11. Hell, I've gained weight the last three months and I can assure

you that I haven't been held captive, have access to all the exercise I could possible want, never had a gun held to my head and forced to make videos, am allowed to travel as I please, talk to family and friends when ever I want or have any reasonable expectation that I could die in a horrible way at a moment's notice. And yet, despite all my best intentions, I have found a way to gain weight. But of course, I work undercover for the CIA in my free time.:sarcasm:

[Jara sang]

22. "cultural taboo" ???

Yeah, it's the latest craze, all the kids are doing it. Political hostages are all the rage.

[Marie26]

4. This is the 3rd Jill Carroll thread

you've started in a week. Give it a rest.

[leftstreet]

10. Is DU sending her flowers?

:rofl:

[Marie26]

12. We should! nt

[Jara sang]

24. 2nd

Get your facts together. What are you president of her fan club. Give your emotions a rest.

[QC]

5. She was confined to a WHITE PLASTIC CHAIR!!!!! n/t

[blondeatlast]

6. Oh, for pity's sake. Even I think something smells here,

but I see her as an innocent victim.

Do the names Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman ring a bell with anyone?

[mondo joe]

8. And weight gain indicates she's CIA how...?

[Jara sang]

25. She looks an fits the profile.

It's merely my opinion.

[philosophie_en_rose]

9. I forgot she was held captive at 24-Hour Fitness.

She didn't have the opportunity to exercise, while kidnapped for 80+ days. How does that make it a CIA plot?

[TomInTib]

13. Wide-ranging wardrobe, too.

Cheeriest ex-hostage since Tania (Paty Hearst).

[arwalden]

14. Ooph!

<< I really don't think she was held captive at all. >>

:rofl:

[mdmc]

15. i think that she is very pretty

[tocqueville]

16. OK but what would be the purpose then ?

she comes out and blasts America, and practically praises Allah (interesting for a Christian journalist)....

Shouldn't the story have been "Christian Journalist abducted by Islamists keeps her faith despite torture and is rescued at the last minute by special ops team ?"

Must be a very intricated scheme then...

[Redstone]

17. She didn't get any fucking excercise! How hard is that to figure out?

Christ, not EVERYTHING is a plot and/or conspiracy! No wonder some people call us the "loony left."

Redstone

[Inland]

19. BA-ha-ha-ha!

a) The christian science monitor is read by the CIA due to its accuracy and global perspective

b) the CSM is a cia front meaning it's basically just the CIA repeating it's own information.

These can't both be true. Why would the CIA read the CSM for information if it's just repeating the CIA line? Wouldn't it just write itself a memo?

There's a difference between finding the media untrustworthy and presuming the exact opposite is the truth, e.g., if the msm reports that Jill was a hostage she was in fact at an all expenses paid vacation in Barbados.

[stray cat]

20. No exercise and would you turn down food from someone

you needed to keep happy to keep from getting killed?

[Bumblebee]

21. This is really low

She told her parents and sister she had to eat everything they brought her, including candy. On days like that I do wonder whether we indeed suffer from utter collective paranoia. Isn't it enough that she is attacked by Fox and like? And why do some people here want to believe that she is not only against Bush and his policies (which she is -- and it was always abundantly clear from her writings) but also pro those who behead and treat women like shit? Give me a break. And while I am ranting, the April 1 jokes with DeLay or Bush resigning, et al, are sort of juvenile... Almost made me want to skip DU today.

[MADem]

23. First, why are you SORRY, and second, whaddaya expect???

Hostage taking in the ME is a TRADITION. It goes back CENTURIES. The smart hostage taker will plump up their captives, in order that, when returned following payment of ransom, they will look healthy.

Jill was held in a room, with no opportunity to move or exercise. She never said she was denied food, furniture or the opportunity to bathe. She was simply not permitted to leave.

If you want to look for CIA agents, look at CNN (who had military intel "interns" in civvies in the run up to Iraq 1) or Faux, where Administration advance teams scope out Presidential venues under cover of journalists' credentials.

Everyone in media calls the Christian Science Monitor CSM. It's shorthand, to distinguish it from other papers called The Monitor. It's an excellent paper.

Jill isn't CIA. She'd be hard put to find time for training. She's been busy ever since she graduated UMASS.

[Skinner]

26. Locking.

This is silly.