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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:02 PM
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PLEASE HELP ME OUT DU'ers! If at first you don't succeed, try again!
I am re-entering PTC in the huffingtonpost contagious festival. Here is the link to my entry:
http://peacetakescourage.cf.huffingtonpost.com /

Help me win this time by passing the link around as much as possible.
Right now I have two animations hosted over there. "3 Years" and "Ashamed."

If at first you don't succeed, try again!

any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

I'd also love to hear your comments as always! :)
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:16 PM
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1. I am speechless
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 04:17 PM by Hope2006
both of your entries are beyond description. I am in tears as I type.

I can't imagine ANYONE not being moved by viewing them.

I am definitely going to pass your link to people I know.

Thank you so much for your admirable efforts.

O8) :hug: :patriot:

Edited to add a smiley.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:38 PM
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3. K/R
:hi:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:31 PM
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6. thanks Hope2006!
:hi:
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:34 PM
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7. Actually, Thank YOU!
K&R!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:29 PM
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2. Awesome!
Wonderful job.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 11:26 PM
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30. thanks yadayadayada!
:pals:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:42 PM
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4. emailed away.....
excellent poignant pieces....
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:05 PM
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5. thanks ya'll!
:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:34 PM
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8. You, go! Ava
:kick: and recommend
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:36 PM
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9. Kicked to Greatest. ;)
Thank you for posting!
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:46 PM
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10. Thanks Welsey! (i'm supposed to call you that right?)
:)
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:48 PM
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11. You can
call me anytime ... ;)
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:02 PM
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12. LOL!
:)
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:04 PM
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13. Ava, those are great videos!
I have a question or two.

Where do you get the photos?

I like your graphics. What typeface is that, Goudy? There's a spot or two where you might try kerning, even if the letters intersect. I'm not sure it would work visually though.

Again, those are terrific and so unfortunately sad.

--IMM
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:07 PM
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14. thanks IMModerate.
I get the photos from various places. CBS has really good photos I use a lot. The typeface is called "Felix Titling." Thanks for the suggestiong on the spacing of the letters and thanks for you compliments! :)
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:21 PM
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15. Thanks a lot for doing these & I've e-mailed them to my more
liberal friends & family. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :cry:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:26 PM
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16. thanks ralps!
:hi:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:36 PM
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17. Ava - Your work is beautiful. My suggestion: Use the real numbers lost...
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 06:38 PM by IndyOp
To repeat again, so you know I mean it: Your work is beautiful. Thank you.

I know that the death toll on IraqBodyCount is the most conservative available. Molly Ivins commented in a recent column that she uses these numbers 'because she doesn't want to be accused of distortion' (paraphrasing). I understand her urge, but I strongly disagree. At some point one has to be willing to stand up and tell the truth even if you know that you may be called a 'name' - like 'distorter' or 'liar'.

The IraqBodyCount.org standard is much too high for a war-torn country -- their sources are limited to public domain newsgathering agencies with web access. Thousands of people who die are not going to have their deaths reported in a newspaper -- the papers can't cover all the deaths, it is much too chaotic.

You could show both the 37,000+ and the Lancet (2004) estimate of 100,000 (which does not include Fallujah and all deaths since the data was collected for the article - details in the grey box below).

My point: We've not learned the lessons of Viet Nam -- the number of Vietnamese dead that is commonly accepted is around 300,000. The true numbers came out in the years after the war, but hardly any of the 'history books' revised the numbers that were originally believed -- the true numbers of all Indochinese who died is 3-4 million.

In Iraq, over the past 15 years (Persian Gulf War and its aftermath, economic sanctions, and Iraq War) over 1,000,000 Iraqis have died (details below the grey box).

I believe we need to stare long and hard at the 'real numbers' now before - God save our souls - we reach the numbers who died in Viet Nam.

IRAQ WAR: March 2003 - March 2006: 250,000

A Johns Hopkins University study published in the British medical journal The Lancet in October, 2004: The Lancet estimate (usually approximated to 100,000 deaths) includes Iraqi civilians and insurgents, and includes all causes of death, whether violent or nonviolent, and whether they were caused by foreigners (such as US pilots) or by Iraqis themselves. (1)

The figure of 100,000 had been based on somewhat "conservative assumptions", notes Les Roberts at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Baltimore, U.S., who led the study. That estimate excludes Falluja, a hotspot for violence. If the data from this town is included, the compiled studies point to about 250,000 excess deaths since the outbreak of the U.S.-led war. (2)

Eman Ahmad Khamas is a human rights advocate who has documented abuses by the U.S. military in Iraq.... She said: "This occupation has destroyed Iraq. Americans don't know that tens of thousands of Iraqis are in prisons. Americans don't know how many have been killed. Lancet reported 100,000 in 2004, not counting Falluja. Now it is something like double this number. Hundreds of thousands of families must search for men who are missing, and they are left with nothing to support themselves. Many people do not know about the bombing of cities. Bush said the war ended on May 1, 2003. That's not true. Many Iraqi cities have been bombed severely. And families are buried in the rubble. Get the troops back home' is not enough. Yes, the occupation has to end immediately, but those responsible for these crimes have to be held responsible." (3)

(1) The Death Toll in Iraq
http://www.j-n-v.org/AW_briefings/JNV_briefing075.htm

(2) US Invasion Responsible for Over 250,000 Deaths
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11674.htm

(3) We Are Human Like You
http://woolseyforpeace.org/?q=node/65


Real Shock & Awe: After 15 Years War, Sanctions 1,000,000 Iraqis Dead

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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:40 PM
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21. i'm with molly on this one
the reason i use the official count is because i don't want to be seen as a distorter. thanks for the suggestion though and thanks for the kind compliments! :hi:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:37 PM
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18. Wow....just Wow!
Your work is incredible, the music you have chosen is perfect. Very strong message in the photos you chose. Good luck, I hope you win, you certainly deserve to!
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:47 PM
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19. Thanks Spazito!
:)
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:28 PM
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20. Glad to help out such a talented young lady.
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 08:35 PM by 8_year_nightmare
Pure excellence. You've captured the tragedy & the horror of Iraq; my heart breaks watching both videos. The music was very moving, too, particularly on "Three Years."
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:44 PM
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22. Very good work. I have a small nit, if I may
The conclusion of 3 Years urges us to demand the "impeachment of the liar who got us (into Iraq)." That should be plural. Bush, Cheney, and three of the four top cabinet officers warrant impeachment for war crimes or crimes against humanity, while they and many of their aides deserve to be tried for their crimes.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:51 PM
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23. Hey young lady I so much want to watch but for some reason no can do
In the mean time :hi:
you do good work, commendable work
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 09:39 PM
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24. thanks madokie!
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 09:39 PM by Ava
:pals:
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:02 PM
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25. So beautiful, Ava!
:cry:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:18 PM
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26. thankyou!
:)
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:25 PM
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27. I only need 7 more hits to be in 5th place!
:woohoo:
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:37 PM
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28. Ava you're amazing!
Your animations go straight to the heart and conscience.

I hope you win.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:51 PM
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29. thankyou heebgbz!
:hi:
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karmaqueen Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:08 AM
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31. There are no words
To say how your work has moved me. Thank You so much, I will be passing them on to everyone.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:23 AM
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34. thanks carolinabeachbum!
:hi:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:11 AM
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32. ttt n/t
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:33 AM
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33. update
PeaceTakesCourage is now in 4th.

Thanks everyone! :)
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:35 AM
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35. K&R Ava.
I'm forwarding them to everyone I can think of!! Best of luck; your videos are, as always, excellent.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:49 AM
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36. thank you!
:pals:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:20 AM
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37. Kicked and recommended!
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 06:59 PM
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40. thanks!
:hi:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 12:36 PM
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38. absolutely beautiful.
nothing more I can say, except. we have to stop them!
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:07 PM
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39. thanks robinlynne
:hi:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:23 PM
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41. K&R
Nice work. :thumbsup:

:kick:

-Laelth
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