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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:23 AM
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Sorry DUPE: To Fill the Void: Eugenics, NAZIs, California
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 09:32 AM by Octafish
My bad.

In its place, the history of uebermensch:



Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

by Edwin Black
Sunday, November 9, 2003

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a so-called Master Race.

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the pseudoscience aimed at "improving" the human race. In its extreme, racist form, this meant wiping away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in 27 states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the 20th century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little-known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles Goethe, as well as members of the California state Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

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http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html



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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:24 AM
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1. This is a dupe, and BS. n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:25 AM
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2. Sorry about the Dupe. It ain't bullshit.
http://sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature1p/

Read the article and contact the names.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:27 AM
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5. I read the article, there are no actual quotes from the speaker...
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 09:27 AM by 5X
and coincidentally no tape.


edit spelling.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:28 AM
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6. No tape because they asked the guy to turn it off.
The only record is the authors, the scientist-editor.

I trust him more than Pianka.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:33 AM
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8. Mims is a fundie......
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 09:34 AM by 5X
�In 1989, Mr. Mims was interviewed to write the column �Amateur Scientist� for the prestigious magazine Scientific American. The deal was pretty well sewn up -until Mims happened to mention, in a list of publications for which he had written, some Christian magazines. The editor asked bluntly, �Do you believe in the Darwinian theory of evolution?� Mims said no.

Sorry about the question marks, was in original.

<http://www.chp.ca/arc-CHP-Communique/communique_12_19.htm>

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:39 AM
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9. Thanks for the info, 5X. So he's a Fundie?
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 09:40 AM by Octafish
His boss is a MacArthur Fellow.

http://www.sas.org/sasstaff.html

Not that it balances out.

My reason for getting this out is that this is the kind of thinking that is being discussed as a "solution" to overpopulation, resource depletion and environmental collapse.

My source works for Textron.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:44 AM
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10. I just have a feeling that Mims is misrepresenting the guys point.
I suspect the speaker meant this as a possible scenario,
not a solution.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:26 AM
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3. Geez, like we need to give this administration any more ideas
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:26 AM
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4. Those darned Liberal professors are at it again eom
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:29 AM
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7. Technically true though
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 09:30 AM by hobbit709
Reducing the human population by 90% would solve the problems of scarce resources, global warming, etc. But it would cause other problems for the remaining 10%. And who plays god and gets to decide? Personally I think that Mother Nature will fix the problem of the human race in her own way without any help from us.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:53 AM
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11. "Overpopulation" has been on the radar since before Jonathan Swift.
"A Modest Proposal" is actually a parody of a royal agent named Sir William Petty who wrote volumes of this kind of claptrap.
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