Major league spinner...now the HHS guy is guilty of "seducing"

[Horse with no Name]

the 14 year old. :wtf:
Seducing? When you are a Republican soliciting 14 year olds on the internet is seduction.
Nothing makes sense anymore.:shaking head:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060405/ap_on_re_us/press_secretary_arrested

[XemaSab]

1. Is that a legal age of consent in any state?

:shrug:

[MADem]

2. SPLOID nails it, though...

Eventually he even had phone sex with an undercover agent posing as the imaginary 14-year-old. The content of these conversations has been deemed too explicit for release.....A warrant was issued for Doyle's arrest on seven counts of Use of a Computer to Seduce a Child, and 16 counts of Transmission of Harmful Material to a Minor.

Cops showed up at Doyle's home around 7:45 p.m. Tuesday with a warrant to search the premises. They then took him into custody.

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd was duly outraged.

"There is no question that Doyle believed that he was having these disgusting, obscene discussions, online and on the phone, with a young girl. His conduct is vile and inexcusable."

One is left to wonder, is this the same Brian J. Doyle who recently donated up to $249 to the Maryland-based Metropolitan Center for Assault Prevention, where "certified facilitators guide discussion ... specific strategies to use in situations involving ... sexual approaches by a known adult." http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/04/dhs_wonk_busted.php

[Erika]

4. Maybe he got his tips from O'Reilly n/t

[flyarm]

8. this is near where i live..the sheriff said on tv ..the perp told the

detective ( acting as child) who exactly he was..what his job and title were..used his government cell phone ..gave his office phone number, and governm cell phone number..and was using a film with the fake child..

they said on news he was divorced , but had children of his own..but did not say age of such...


fly

[MADem]

13. You have to wonder how his kids are doing, and what precipitated his

divorce...it always is a point of speculation when these perverts pop up (so to speak) out of their slimy hiding places.

[Erika]

3. Seducing a 14 year old? I think that's a touch over the line

The incompetency of W is criminal. My friend who is also a public information officer has said that Homeland Security/FEMA is nothing now but political hacks filled at the top by W , and anyone else with any decency has left the organization. So you now have political hacks and inept underlings. He appears to be right.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. 55-14 or fight!

"How about a little Polk, little girl?"


:scum:

[Erika]

6. Oh Yuck!!! n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. It's not my rationale.

But that's the subtext to the "defense."

[Hobarticus]

7. Adults "seduce" each other....adults "exploit" children...

These guys know no shame, at all.

[RagingInMiami]

10. It never ceases to amaze me how often these men fall for this set-up

And it makes me wonder how often they had pulled it off without getting busted to give them the confidence to keep trying.

After all, it's such common knowledge that cops are always conducting sting operations on the internet where one of them pretends to be an underage girl looking for sex with an older man.

[wake.up.america]

11. This made me ill.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. I always wonder how many times they have done it before

and not been caught.

[MADem]

14. I have to agree with you--seriously, don't these assholes own a MIRROR?

This clown is NOT Brad Pitt, or Johnny Depp, or any of the idols that the young girls seem to go for. This jerk is a DIRTY OLD MAN. And all of the two seater sports cars, leather jackets, and expensive sunglasses will not turn this wrinkled old toad into a Prince.

[triakis36]

15. Too bad he wasn't Vice President

..or he'd get more relief from the media and the law enforcement. I bet if Cheney was caught they'd just say it was all for fun.

[Nailzberg]

16. It's not spin. That's the actual charge.

7 counts Use of a Computer to Seduce a Child
16 counts Trasmission of Harmful Material to a Minor

[Peace Patriot]

17. The man is accused of something. He has not been found guilty.

And the only word we have to go on right now is that of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies and cops who are working with Homeland Security.

Are you forgetting how many smears, and swiftboatings, and other silencing techniques have been used by these people--including the outing of an entire CIA counterprofliferation network?

I wouldn't assume anything about this at all. It could be a complete smear. And, frankly, my first thought was: What does this guy know?

Just because he's a Bushite (apparently) doesn't mean that he couldn't be a whistleblower. Or he could be some kind of witness, in the numerous Republican/Bushite scandals.

My advice: wait and see. Something about this story smells. He gives his real name and real photo, and ID's himself as working for Homeland Security, to someone that he thinks is a child (but is really an undercover cop)? Is the guy retarded, or what? I mean, that is REALLY stupid behavior. Maybe he's suicidal--but, if he is, we don't really know why.

I wouldn't trust one word that comes from Homeland Security--they could have set things up so that the Polk County cops THINK the guy is guilty.

Just...don't jump to conclusions. This junta is a serious earthquake zone at the moment. Indictments of Rove and Hadley may be imminent (in Treasongate). Delay has imploded. Katherine Harris is apparently imploding. Kenneth Blackwell was just discovered to have DIEBOLD stock! Abramoff is off to prison (and is putting that off because he's singing to the prosecutors). Andrew Card just resigned (possibly singing to Fitzgerald, or is a target like Rove and Hadley). Dick Cheney not long ago blew his shotgun off at a fellow Republican (whom the Secret Service permitted to sneak up on him??!!).

I mean, things ARE HAPPENING. And THIS thing could be just another Bushite implosion--or it could be something else. We don't know.

[tenshi816]

18. Doesn't matter what they decide to call it.

It's illegal and morally reprehensible, and it doesn't matter what political party the man belonged to. Wrong is wrong.

[Bluebear]

19. "Doyle instructed the girl to perform a sexual act".....some SEDECTION!

"On several occasions, Doyle instructed the girl to perform a sexual act while thinking of him and described explicit activities he wanted to have with her, investigators said."

Adult Republican men instructing 14 year olds to perform sexual acts is now "seduction"?

[Solly Mack]

20. When I think "seduction" - that's just not what I conjure up in my mind

You don't seduce a 14 year old girl.....you emotionally/mentally coerce a 14 year girl. When it's a power play...and rape and men/women going after young girls/boys is a power play...then it's coercion. Nothing seductive about it.

Sickos prey on young minds at a time when they are extremely vulnerable - they're not really kids and they're not adults....but they want to be taken seriously and be viewed as adults even though they don't have the maturity and perspective that comes from actually being an adult. Young girls and boys are testing their limits at this age - and sick men and women take advantage of it. A young boy or girl might find it flattering that someone "older" finds them attractive - they're at that age when their sexuality is coming into it's own and they're exerting their independence from their families even more. Sickos use that time in a young adolescents life to sexually prey on girls and boys. It's not seduction...it's coercion. And it's wrong.