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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:18 PM
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Darwin Animal FOUND!
Fossil Fish Sheds Light on Transition

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Landfish-Fossil.html?ex=1144900800&en=335dcc3ef00cc2cf&ei=5070&emc=eta1

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 5, 2006

Filed at 1:06 p.m. ET

NEW YORK (AP) -- Scientists have caught a fossil fish in the act of adapting toward a life on land, a discovery that sheds new light one of the greatest transformations in the history of animals.

Scientists have long known that fish evolved into the first creatures on land with four legs and backbones more than 365 million years ago, but they've had precious little fossil evidence to document how it happened.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:19 PM
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1. Enteligunt Dsegn. RULZ!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:46 PM
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13. ...you made me snort, Xultar
:silly:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:13 PM
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25. In or out. I mean milk expressed or inhaled?
:spray:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:16 PM
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26. expressed, dear
Iced green tea, if you must know!
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:20 PM
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2. Is it naturally magnetic?
:D
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:56 PM
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16. Monarch butterflies are.
They have tiny deposits of Magnetite (a magnetic mineral) in their wings, which helps them navigate during their migration. But if you find one stuck to your bumper, you were probably driving too fast.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:02 PM
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22. LOL! No, it has evolved contact glue on one side!
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:22 PM
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3. 365 million years ago?? HA!
Thats wrong. Everybody knows the earth is only 6,000 years old!
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:44 PM
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10. Exactly right....
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 02:17 PM by obreaslan
And the fossil looked like this...


And it was found in proximity of a crucifix!

:)

edit: for better picture.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:06 PM
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23. It looked like a broken image link?
I didn't think the internets were that old!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:24 PM
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4. another site with pics...
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:34 PM
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5. Cool! Thanks!
I'm amazed at how much the skull resembles that of an alligator or crocodile.

BTW, spending months on Ellesmere Island doesn't sound at all like a ton of fun! I guess I'm a wimp.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:39 PM
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6. I'd give my right nut...
(if I had one ;) ) to be camping out in the cold and wet, diggin up bones like this... heaven.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:36 PM
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27. The thing that amazes me is, these folks were so skilled that they said,
"We want to go and find fossils of transitional water/land animals," then they planned exactly where to look and did exactly what they'd planned.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:48 PM
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31. Ellesmere Island is a treasure trove
Scientists have been going there for fossils since about 1860...

"The Arctic Eocene 55 million years ago was just a very different place," Eberle explains in a phone interview from the Canadian Museum of Nature in Ottawa, where she is an ancient mammal expert.

"I picture what I see in the Arctic in the Eocene as very much like today’s southeastern United States including eastern Texas — cypress swamps filled with alligators, all sorts of turtles, these red-eared sliders sitting along the edge of the bayou. This is the kind of environment I see — a nice, wet, humid swamp."

lots more - http://www.nunatsiaq.com/archives/nunavut020719/news/features/20719_02.html

google "Ellesmere Island fossils' for tons more info. :)
Feed your Brain.
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:32 AM
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40. I think it looks exactly like Dubya!
The last time I saw a critter that looked so much like our Failure in Chief it was a Dumbo Rat in a local pet store.
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:47 PM
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14. you can almost see
on its side where the D is. :)
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:57 PM
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18. transitional forms
Another blow to the you can't spell idiot without ID crowd who're always complaining about the lack of "transitional forms" even though the fossil record is full of them as well as their micro vs. macro spiel( if this is not speciation or evidence of, I don't know what is). This will not, of course, satisfy them in that IMO their major complaint about evilution right after the one about it cuts their deity out of the game is that it doesn't seem to proceed according to their lights and specifications.The old half a wing,eye, you name the feature argument. Still a great find I'm sure the paleontological world is as aflutter as they are likely to get. My thanks.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:07 PM
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24. The creationist mindset.
If you show them a transitional fossil which fills a gap, they just see two more gaps. One on each side of it!
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the observationist Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:33 PM
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38. re: transitional forms
It is possible to have evolution without the transitional forms. It is also possible to believe in God and evolution.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:40 PM
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7. Now, now, Satan put that fossil and all the other fossils here
to challenge your faith! Repent NOW! The Rapture is NEAR!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:44 PM
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11. Yes. Gawd is testing us.
As a faithful follower of the Reverend Pat Roberson, I expect him to issue a Patwa that the scientist be stricken by lightning so that his testicles are blown off.

That'll teach him gawd's love and how to behave and not to be scientificating and all.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:42 PM
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29. LOL, a Patwa! I love it! (nt)
:)
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:40 PM
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8. wheeeeee!
satan musta put it there. :sarcasm:
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:41 PM
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9. delete. oops
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 01:42 PM by bee
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:45 PM
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12. Cooool!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:50 PM
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15. Must be Satan!
I mean, well yuo see, God created the earth and we walked along dinasaours... all hail praise to the graet Noggie
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:56 PM
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17. Great Abe Vigoda's ghost!!
:D


:thumbsup:

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:42 PM
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30. You should get the firefox extension.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:56 PM
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32. Neat!
I didn't know there was one available until now.

Thanks!

:)

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:10 PM
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33. It's my favorite.
I know it sounds silly since it doesn't do much - but it's my favorite extension.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:24 PM
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39. He has a ghost?
:)
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:57 PM
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19. If I believed in Gawd
I would think he's a wee bit pissed at the creationists, er, excuse, intelligent designists".

In the past few months, scientists have found living creatures once thought to be extinct (some rat squirrel thingy), a possible "missing link era" skull (containing features from both earlier and later human developmental periods) and now the water/land fish!

Maybe their Gawd is just going to keep throwing bones in their faces until they get it.

(Hint to their Gawd--trying literally throwing the bones in their faces. They're a bit thick-skulled)
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:00 PM
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20. And Republicans Who Refuse To Evolve, Are Called 'DickHeadPrick' !!!


:shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:00 PM
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21. Does anyone hear popcorn popping?
*pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop*
*pop* *pop* *pop* *pop*
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:37 PM
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28. from the article
http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060403/full/060403-7.html

The fossilized remains of Tiktaalik show a crocodile-like creature with joints in its front arms.

Ah-HA! Now we all know why you went extinct. Damn hippy fish. Probably smoked too much weed that he forgot to evolve all the way. :smoke: :hippie:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:12 PM
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34. Take THAT, Topeka!
Unless you want the Flying Spaghetti Monster as your intelligent designer. :D
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:01 PM
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35. picture on front page of NYTIMES.com
it's so cute! you could stick it on your car!
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:36 PM
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36. uh oh
Cue the fundamentalist christian shitfit and feces flinging.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:24 PM
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37. Why do you hate America?
:)
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:59 AM
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41. photo here
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