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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:42 PM
Original message
TPM: 2nd HS Official Sex Offender (warning- obscene)
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 05:00 PM by chill_wind

*formerly ran sex predator ops*

"Wednesday, April 05, 2006

2nd Homeland Security official in teen sex scandal - exposed himself to teenage girl in mall, formerly ran sex predator operation at Homeland Security
by John in DC - 4/05/2006 02:52:00 PM


(snip)
The victim, a 16-year-old girl, said Figueroa pulled up a leg of his shorts, exposed himself and masturbated for about 10 minutes, according to the Tampa Tribune."

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/04/2nd-homeland-security-official-in-teen.html



Story at TPM Muckraker

Former Top DHS Child Porn Official A Sex Criminal?
By Justin Rood - April 5, 2006, 1:10 PM

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000294.php

Words fail.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:43 PM
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1. Who would watch that for 10 minutes?
He must have told them that, yikes!

All I could think of was WHY didn't she run?

Who is hiring all these wonderful people?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:51 PM
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2. Your cabinet's doing a heck of a (vetting) job, Georgie.
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 04:52 PM by chill_wind
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:39 AM
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62. More incompetence. Wonder how many terrorist spies he's vetted this way
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slestak Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:02 PM
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3. Ya beat me to it
I wouldn't have lasted 10 seconds.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:09 PM
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4. it's a way to demonize her
If he said this, then he wanted to start this meme: she must have been a slut, who deserved whatever she got, if she remained there for ten minutes. Sounds like a real sweetheart of a guy, no wonder he was hired.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:30 PM
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6. We don't know the circumstances here.
This could be anything from extenuating circumstances to manipulation by the accused predator, to shift blame to the victim.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:41 PM
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13. I wondered too....
Here's what it could be: she goes into a store or something, comes back out and he's still there wacking away. Something where she's not just standing there gapeing.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:43 PM
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14. Yeah. This happened to me when I was 16.
A man came out from behind a convenience store as I was getting into my car to leave. He exposed himself to me and I just started my car, backed up and drove away.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #14
29. grew up on the central florida coast
i can remember many times men would drive up to ask directions or whatnot and have no pants on. there was a dirty old man down the street who had a problem with his shorts everytime he was out in the yard. everyone knew about it. there was a public beach on military property (outside of munipal jurisdiction) that was a "cruising" spot for OLD timers. i kid you not. the old men with metal detectors.

i think it has to do with the military/adult entertainment complex in florida. if there's a base, there's "shore leave" attitude that's basically predatory and sociopathic. kids know a LOT more about this shit than adults can prolly deal with. bleh.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #14
45. Every woman I know has seen some yahoo display his Johnson
in a public place. Sometimes, all you can do is shake your head . . . after you've called the cops, of course.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:07 AM
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72. I'm sorry to hear that
it happened to my cousin, and when she got home her mom asked her how she handled it and she said, "I pointed at his thing and LAUGHED AND LAUGHED.. then he ran away.."
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #72
76. My roommate and I were driving down Interstate 5 once
and she always drove like a bat out of hell. We were in the middle lane and this pickup pulled up beside us, going the same speed. I glanced over, and he was staring at us, his wanker in his hand, and was pounding it furiously. I was so in shock I didn't look away right away, but told my roommate to look. She started laughing, albeit uncomfortabley, I joined her, we slowed down. He slowed down. We sped up, he sped up. How he could yank his pud and still control his vehicle is beyond me. We didn't have cell phones back then, but we wrote down his license plate number and called the police when we got to our apartment. I don't know how anyone could possibly think that pulling your pud in public could ever be a turn on!

Part of the Perverted-Justice website is dedicated to these "wankers". I think it's hilarious that they post these guys pictures, profiles and text. http://www.perverted-justice.com/wankers/
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:55 PM
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77. You know, at the time, I was pretty appalled, but I've always
had this way of, well, I guess it's some kind of look I give people that sort of stops them dead in their tracks. I don't really do it on purpose; it's just part of my personality, I guess.

The thing is, though, as with all things sexual, it's something I would probably talk to my sons and daughters about at a young age. I'd try to do it in a way that wasn't scary, but this week with all the examples of things that can happen, well, I just don't think I'd send a kid out into the world without having a lot of conversations about this sort of thing. And I'd ask them what they would do in a situation like that.

The Duke thing - I'd be pretty honest with a daughter about what could happen at parties like that and with a son - I'd probably ask him to think about what he would do if he found himself in a sitauation where the guys around him were getting out of control like that. I don't think anyone really prepares kids for what they are going to face when they get to college.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 05:02 AM
Response to Reply #77
79. I really think that someone should write a good honest
book about how to deal with going to college, and what can happen there.. so many kids have NO IDEA how screwy it can get and FAST, or how to extricate themselves.. need a writer that isn't pompous or smug, or too glib, but honest..

My sister was/is a Christian, and a nice person, but was clueless as to sex drives in kids.. too my little niece to church every week, lived a good god fearing life, but as soon as my little niece shows up at college (and she's a cutie pie) BAM, knocked up by the head of the Hockey team, a huge black guy with no scruples whatsoever,(not saying that about all black or hockey players of course), she had to meet this idiot rapist jock, having never seen anyone so wild she went too.. (he'd gone, but heard he'd grown up enough to enjoy his daughter now)..

Telling kids not to screw is like telling them not to BREATHE, the repigs are NUTS when it comes to this.. they should have a FREE box of condoms on every door at the Universities, "Take all you want, we'll keep the box filled"..

It's always been a jolt, but now it's more dangerous as I see it, especially now that they say more kids are conservatives :)

Some of these conservatives are among the most perverted people I've ever seen, the liberals are MELLOW and know that NO means NO, not HO..

I've always been honest, tho I hated it, with my little boys, told them that there are people out there who WILL steal you, bury you up to your neck under a trailor and use your mouth as a toilet and ashtray (not when they're TOO young), and then taught them about CODEWORDS that families use to make sure someone is safe, don't follow some guy looking for a puppy in the woods, and how to turn their arms into NOODLES (all loose), so that if someone grabbed their jackets they can RUN OUT OF THEM, and run away.. when in a mall go to a middle aged woman for HELP if someone is bothering them.. all that good stuff..

Almost sounds like the same rules apply to college, eh? :)

Good post, thanks!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #79
81. Actually, there is info out there for college students
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 02:43 PM by Iris
I was an advisor for a local chapter of my sorority and got this

http://bernicesandler.com/id50.htm

in hard copy somewhere. I found it when I was looking online in regard to this topic and it looks like the authors are trying to put the info. online. I recognized a lot of it from the book I had. I still have the book somehwere - intended more or less to show any kids I have (or love - nieces, nephews) before they go off to college.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:14 PM
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18. Blame the victim?
I don't think so. Forget it.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:34 PM
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20. If he is a republican
She probably spent most of those 10 minutes looking for his penis to see if he was actually jerking off or having a seizure. Its not easy finding a needle in a haystack, so to speak.

Tiny, tiny republicans.

Evoman
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:37 PM
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28. She "glanced once". . .was shocked and sat & thought what she should do.
When something like this happens, what SHOULD she have done? If she had immediately walked away, would this incident end up having been reported? We really don't know the precise time line - did someone else see him and report him? Why was he running? Did he see the girl go to someone else and point at him? Did another bystander say something?

When I was 16, and visiting an uncle's ranch, we had lunch every day with my aunt,uncle, cousins and the ranch foreman and his wife. One afternoon my uncle told the foreman to drive me in his truck up to a distant pasture where the foreman was to then drive some piece of farm equipment back, and I was to drive the truck back.

When we got to our destination, he reached across the front seat and grabbed me. I instinctively fought him off but was too shocked to say anything. After a bit he realized I wasn't going to cooperate and just stopped and got out of the truck. I never said a word about it to anyone. My aunt would have gone into hyterics and god knows what the man's wife would have done. He'd worked for my uncle for many years - they were friends. Would the man have denied it? So I can understand this girl just sitting there. This happened back in 1958 and it's the first time I've told the tale. And for what it's worth, it happened in Kansas!

Here's the girl's quote:

In her statement, the girl said Figueroa pulled up a leg of his shorts, exposed himself and masturbated for about 10 minutes. "I glanced once because he seemed very strange, and I caught a look of his penis," she said. "I was shocked, so I sat and thought of what I should do."

Figueroa's attorney has been granted a postponement of the trial to give him time to depose the girl. If he is not removed from his job before August, the suspended agent will become eligible for retirement then when he reaches the age of 50." (end of quote)

And I'd like to point out that there is no provision in the law that such actions are not crimes if the victim doesn't act in a certain way.



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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:16 PM
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42. Thanks
I heard that tonight. I posted in a rush and left town for the evening. I was trying to be "cute" with that statement and it did not come across that way. For that I am sorry. I would never blame the victim for something like this, ever. Wish I had been here to stop that before now but oh well. I wasn't cute and there is nothing what so ever funny about this. It sounded odd when I read the post, now I know the answer.

I too have had similar things happen and I am sorry for what happened to you. I doubt there are too many women who have managed to grow up without something similar to the situation this girl went through or something as horrible as what you went through. I can imagine it took her a while to decide what to do.
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splashy Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:50 AM
Response to Reply #28
58. You are so right
I grew up in Florida and you really see a lot growing up there. And not in a good way. People go there to let it all hang out, and they sure do.:puke:

They also act like idiots and creeps in other ways too. You see the seamy underbelly of the wealthy.:mad:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:10 AM
Response to Reply #1
60. Well don't cha know....
all young girls enjoy watching old farts pound their pud :sarcasm:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #60
61. Please see reply 42 n/t
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:15 PM
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5. Obviously one of the many variant strains of Delay Republicans n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Tampa Tribune
All pretty sick and sad.

Tampa Tribune story
Feb 06

http://news.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBKPR9ONJE.html
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lancepiercejr Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:31 PM
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7. Maybe the repukes are branching out
not satisfied with lies, ineptitude, etc. Now they're gonna try and corner the market on deviant sexual practices, too!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:19 AM
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46. Honey, they've been the champions
Stick around DU. the post will surface which shows instance after instance of these so-called "moral" people engaging in all sorts of fun - and criminal behavior - while raging against homosexuals and birth control...
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:33 PM
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9. I am suprised this didn't make bigger news a few months back.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/27/State/Federal_agent_faces_c.shtml

He is a high up in Tampa ICE. With new sex offender laws that have passed, he may face a little more time now than he would have before.
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lancepiercejr Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:39 PM
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12. Un-*uckin *elievable!
This is 6 months old? Goddam liberal media!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #12
25. No kidding! Welcome to D.U.
:hi:
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dwightspencer Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #9
21. Under the radar?
Unfortunately, things like this kind of sex-crime will get swept under the rug until the sensationalism sings at a pitch to keep the source from being lambasted for saying something so dreadful to hear. We have all heard the talking point about not hearing good news from Iraq. This is the same sort of thing that forces us to go to alternative news sources to find out the latest about what is going on in Darfur. It is too shocking and horrible for our consumption according to the gate-keepers of our news.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. I live in the area, so it was news here.
I am suprised it did slip under the national radar. I thought I remember it being covered, but I could just be thinking of the local news.

Creepy stuff.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:34 PM
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10. Oh yeh. This admin sure can secure the homeland!
:sarcasm:
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:36 PM
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11. Enough! I can't take this horsecrap anymore!
What is with the GOP and underage children? G-d all mighty, please make it stop already!!!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #11
32. Don't forget Scooter Libby's book.
I'm thinking of the "sex scene" involving bears and 10-year-old girls. I really don't know what is wrong with these people. Is it the result of repression?
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #32
47. That's what I think........
Repress your sex drive and after awhile it rebels. Or curdles into something genuinely evil where before you might've been just a bit kinky....
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:44 PM
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15. Under Bush's reign, it makes a tragic kind of sense that a sexual predator
would head the sex predator operation at Homeland Security


Makes you wonder just how bad the person is who got the job next

No wonder they want Google's records - they're afraid of what the records will expose about those in government who prey on children.











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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
31. Interesting connection
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 08:57 PM by Jose Diablo
government demanding google records supposedly to track kiddy porn and the DHS head of child predator investigating unit getting busted on child molestation charges.

Edit to add: I wonder, did the FBI have a child predator investigating unit that transfered to the DHS or is this unit completely 'new'? Reason I wonder is if this unit is really all about making excusses for government oversight of the 'internets' because of all the 'predators' surfing the net.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #31
52. DHS program is new (2003) and separate - but works with the FBI
and other agencies/groups

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=1067


"Operation Predator is a new initiative developed by the Department of Homeland Security's Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to protect children world-wide."
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #15
63. Chertoff appoints these guys and he should have been out after Katrina
Maybe he has too much on bushie or Cheneyfudd to be pushed out.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 05:49 PM
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16. His replacement will probably be Gilles de Rais
Because we all know that Bush always replaces his villainous subordinates with even more villainous subordinates (E.g. Ashcroft being replaced with "Torture is Fun" Gonzales).

Gilles de Rais: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 05:23 AM
Response to Reply #16
80. No doubt. They fire the stop sign runner, and hire the drunk driver.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:13 PM
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17. No wonder DOJ isn't prosecuting or investigating
Notice in the congressional hearing yesterday with the teenage boy involved in internet child porn, his molestor testified also.

Pukes aren't interested in prosecuting these creeps, they ARE these creeps. They probably had the kid in there testifying so they could all get their jollies.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:10 AM
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55. Pukes aren't interested in prosecuting these creeps, they ARE these creeps
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. They're interested in prosecuting OTHER people for recreational drug use and sexual peccadilloes---what better way than to hide that you're a cokesnorting pervert than under a cross or a government ID or other such goodguy badges? You see this in the priest scandal, and in the many many stories of such behavior in the SS. Nice gig for a pervert, fighting perverts. You get to take their collections AND move yourself by nature into a category that clearly :sarcasm: doesn't contain such subhumans--why, you can't be a molestor, you CHASE them for a living!

(thinks of arsonists who become firefighters)
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #55
65. pukes ARE the druggies (e.g. Limpballs), pervs & criminals
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:17 PM
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19. OMG!!!
I can hardly contain myself!

:D
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 06:43 PM
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22. Florida again. What's up with that?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:09 PM
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23. Holee Crap-- "Figuera has been arrested on similar charges in past."
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 07:13 PM by chill_wind
"Figueroa has been arrested on similar charges in the past"

Local Case Sparks Review Of Agents' Pasts

By HOWARD ALTMAN haltman@tampatrib.com
Published: Jan 25, 2006


TAMPA - The arrest of a former immigration chief based in Tampa has prompted the Department of Homeland Security to conduct a national review of background checks conducted on employees who target child exploitation.

A former inspector general with Homeland Security says the Tampa case reveals flaws in the department's background-check procedures.


full story: http://news.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBGRC06VIE.html
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #23
66. "flaws in the department's background-check procedures," LOL, duh Sherlock
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:28 PM
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26. Oh, Gee, I can just see the defense he will be building
it's additive and his job made him look at those sites and he got hooked....Yeah right...
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:30 PM
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27. ....
"2nd Homeland Security official in teen sex scandal - exposed himself to teenage girl in mall, formerly ran sex predator operation at Homeland Security"

And these are the people that are supposed to be running our country?!!!

Gee, no wonder I am not surprised.
:eyes:

Blue
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:53 PM
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30. And a third (story 2 months ago)
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 08:21 PM by chill_wind
And a third....

At TPM- Muckraker

3rd DHS Employee a Child Sex Criminal?
By Justin Rood - April 5, 2006, 5:01 PM

(...)

For a Dateline NBC segment on sex predators, Southern California police set up a sting: A decoy pretended to be a 12- or 13-year old online at home, alone. Sex predators found the decoy on the Internet and arranged to meet. When they showed up, the police arrested them.

Caught in the net was Michael Burks, 30, a former La Verne, Calif. police officer who was a DHS "agent," according to a Jan. 14 Los Angeles Times article (not online).

(More) http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/



At AmericaBlog:

3rd HS Employee
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/04/3rd-homeland-security-employee-in.html

MSNBC link on Michael Burks: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11152602/page/6/



Props to MSgt213 here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x854163#854174
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #30
78. I remember seeing that and I wondered why
there was never anything else said about the guy who got caught and said he worked for DHS.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 08:54 PM
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33. Requirement of Homeland Security is sex offender...
Isn't anybody checking these guys out???
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Lib Grrrrl Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:16 PM
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34. Whaaaaaaat???
Jeebus, tell me this is a joke, right??

Don't YOU feel safer, already? I mean, with guys like this taking care of our Homeland Security, surely none of us has anything to worry about? Well, unless you happen to be an underage girl....

sick, sick, sick...
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:19 PM
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35. The other tragic /ironic joke on all of us, the taxpayers...
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 10:23 PM by chill_wind
Earlier this month-- quite a disturbing expose'

Guards Say Homeland Security Headquarters Insecure

Updated: 8:05 a.m. ET March 6, 2006

WASHINGTON - The agency entrusted with protecting the U.S. homeland is having difficulty safeguarding its own headquarters, say private security guards at the complex.

The guards have taken their concerns to Congress, describing inadequate training, failed security tests and slow or confused reactions to bomb and biological threats.

(snip)

"If the allegations brought forward by the whistleblowers are correct, they represent both a security threat and a waste of taxpayer dollars," Democratic Sens. Byron Dorgan of North Dakota and Ron Wyden of Oregon wrote. "It would be ironic, to say the least, if DHS were unable to secure its own headquarters."

more- AP story at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11695250/from/RSS/

Read near the end about the suspicious bag in the DHS headquarters parking lot.....

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:58 AM
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68. stupid DHS also spread news re: location when they chose this bldg before
it even had this much security in place. I consider that idiotic, especially since the streets surrounding the DHS bldg. get a lot of traffic and there are multi-story apt. buildings all around. There are other places nearby that LOTS of people frequent, too, but I don't want to identify the building.

Suffice it to say I know the area well because my mother lives in an apt. next door to DHS. I have always noticed the lax security there.

Not that DHS cares!!! Grrr. :mad: :puke: :mad:
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Lostnote06 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:19 PM
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36. Da Sex Police Boss Da Sex Police.....
......while reading this post I saw 3 seperate sexually related indictments being run as newsclips.....I don't know what to make of it all however I am concerned at the media saturation of this topic....I guess it was just a slow day in Iraq.....
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:26 PM
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37. Are you in the DFW area? Because I just saw something like 3
different sex/internet porn stories at the top of the local newscast. :wtf:
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Lostnote06 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:51 PM
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40. Central Bluegrass area......I can't wait for that 400 million dollar
....Bio-Weapons Research facility to be located here.....the last Kentuckian to be used as a test subject ended up with 100% disability....he had volunteered to pose as a terrorist subject in a military interrogation room.....He stated that they were going to kill him....
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:59 AM
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69. Be a patriot and FIGHT IT!!!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:09 PM
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41. Iraq news plentiful too (DU)
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 11:32 PM by chill_wind
Iraq headlines/stories (quick but far from complete round-up) just from today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210734

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210410

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210779

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210752

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2208681

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2208203

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2209453

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2209357

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210081

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210407

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2210271

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2209761

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2209642

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2209488

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2209676

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2208764

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2208523
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Lostnote06 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:28 PM
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43. Great Post , thanks ....my feeble attempt at sarcism
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:37 PM
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44. Another bad news day for pubs *all around*
We the people and the Iraqis continue to pay the enormous price.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:44 PM
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38. Not DHS, but more repuke family values in action...
This one involves an activity with young boys that they call "broomsticking".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x840695

I mean, just what is it with these sicko's? Has anyone ever done a profile on these molesters? You never hear about liberals doing this, its always the repressed so-called family values crowd.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:50 PM
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39. by definition, a Repub is a pervert, liar, thief or some combo thereof
keep that in mind when dealing with them whenever and wherever you deal with them, be it the workplace, outside activities, recreation, in traffic, you name it
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:52 AM
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48. all i can say is -what the fuck
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:58 AM
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49. remember those DHS guys who were in Thailand "looking for terrorists?"
it's making more sense now
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:05 AM
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51. I thought of that and the Mariana Islands, and Delays Orphanage
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 01:05 AM by radio4progressives
thing he's got going.. I'm sorry, but i actually started wondering if anyone is investigating to make sure Delay isn't running a child pornography ring with his orphanage operation. I know it isn't fair of me... but every time i see him on the tube or listen to him speaking i think of a sleazy child molester. that's what i think of when i see him.
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splashy Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:05 AM
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59. Me too!
He's always got that fakey looking predatory smile. :evilgrin:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:01 AM
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70. I, too, have been wondering about these pols making frequent trips to Asia
child prostitution continent of the world.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:33 AM
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74. on a gut level, I feel the Bush admin is full of pervs like this guy
Because Bush has surrounded himself with the kind of people that give loyalty not found in respectable, sane, competent people. They're like Bush - a fraud who claims morality for public consumption.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:16 AM
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56. Ugh. Maybe the terrorists are under this preteen's clothes!
Hypocrites hypocrites hypocrites! Evil evil evil! :argh:

I bet they had expense accounts, too. That you and I paid for. To enable this RESEARCH.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:00 AM
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50. Where's all the DU Dittoheads Outraged over McKinney ?
why aren't they here being fucking outraged about this????

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:28 AM
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53. She spent most of the 10 minutes pointing and laughing at him
3 minutes trying to make sure they really made'm that small then 7 minutes pointing and :rofl: hysterically laughing :rofl: at the little wart of a wee wee. :rofl:
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:01 AM
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54. What was she supposed to do? Scream?
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:07 AM by darkmaestro019
When something that is utterly outside of your experience happens, the usual result is kind of a frozen shock. I had exactly the same reaction the first time a teacher was blatantly and completely non-justifiably abusive and mean to me. I was just, stricken. You have no experience to base an action on, no fucking clue what to do, you're just kind of floored that the world contains this.

Nobody has ever told you the proper way to handle this, because it's hardly something that most people would expect their daughter to encounter in daily life. And how embarassing would it be to go up to a mallpig (probably male) as a very young girl and say that some man was jerking off, uh, at you? Would he even believe you? Tons of authority figures think all teenagers are lying, thieving, lazy, etc...sixteen year old mall rat versus DHS employee, with a blue-collar mostly powerless security dude arbitrating? Massacre.

EDIT: Disbelief, is the word I was looking for through all this and not finding. She's sitting in a food court! I can imagine looking around to see if anyone else notices this (guessing no one did) and fearing you were misunderstanding....and just being so embarassed you don't know WHAT to do.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:17 AM
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57. It happened in the food court
That's what I heard on ... I think Olbermann? So to leave, she'd have to leave her meal behind. There are usually a lot of people in the food courts. Maybe she felt safer there than leaving only to have him follow her! Perhaps he was partially hidden by the table and really didn't expect anyone would see. At any rate, I don't blame her at all. It's a shocking thing, especially to a young girl.

As for him being hired to catch predators... I guess Repubs think it takes one to know one. I can hear the spin now: very well-qualified, specialized intimate knowledge of what they're after, he truly believed in his heart it was OK, blah blah.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:03 AM
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71. ugh, wouldn't want to eat there.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:09 AM
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73. WHole thing increasingly makes my skin crawl.
If this is how dude gets his jollies... what do we think he was doing (on our dime) when underlings brought 'evidence' of potential crimes to him? Creepy, creepy.

And echoing the TPM site - do these people do any qualifications checks on the folks they hire - or is it all about giving some crony a campaign contribution?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:42 AM
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75. The Food Court employees
probably had to go through more substantial background checks than any of these guys.

Laws and rules are just for us little people.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:44 AM
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64. It seems as though bushco wants to kill irony by creating it
so frequently.

seriously can you imagine this guy - probably at work appearing to get all worked up/angry/righteous at going after 'child pornographers' and then going and the exposure/masturbation - w/a teen target? Wonder how many of his former employees are surprised?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:55 AM
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67. Make me sick!
:puke:
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