GREAT Bill Maher tonight!

[Blue_Roses]

Ben Affleck, Joe Biden, (can't remember the conservative guy's name)rounded out the panel with some great thoughts. Say what you will about Biden, but he had some awesome ideas on how to deal with Iraq and what the hell is going on.

If you missed it catch it again later--it was worth it tonight


:thumbsup:

[NVMojo]

1. the whole damn thing was good other then listening to WH pr idiot.

[Cleita]

38. He was an idiot. Dumber than a post. n/t

[cynatnite]

2. I'll watch it at 1am EST

Will be on HBO2.

Thanks for the reminder.

[alarimer]

3. I wish I could watch it

I lost HBO and Showtime because I do not yet have a digital cable box. Not until next week.

[Beelzebud]

10. Do you have access to usenet?

alt.binaries.great

It's posted there every week.

[orleans]

12. what is usenet? n/t

[Beelzebud]

15. a.k.a. newsgroups

Usenet has been around since before the world wide web.

It's used like a forum similar to DU, but it uses no webpage. You have to have a newsreader client to access a usenet server.

If you google usenet or newsgroups you can find tons of info on how to get started.

The binary newsgroups are my favorites. :D

[alarimer]

29. I am sure I can catch up when I finally get digital

I think there is an "on demand" feature. I am just complaining because I got no warning from Time Warner that this would happen. My apartment complex pays for the basic cable so all I was paying for was the movie channels and Road Runner. I will probably only keep the digital box until the Sopranos is over.

[mduffy31]

20. ITunes

The show is podcasted on ITunes. It is a week behind but you can catch it.

[alarimer]

30. Okay

I n ever knew that. thanks.

[ellenfl]

37. fyi, maher will not be on next friday. he's taking a day off. eom

[SharonRB]

4. I thought it was the best show since the first one of this season

back in mid-February. Biden definitely moved up on my list of candidates after this show. Not necessarily my first choice, but definitely an acceptable one should he get the nomination.

[Blue_Roses]

7. Me too Sharon.

I have to admit, I am one who always rolls their eyes when I know Biden is speaking, but tonight he did GOOD--real good!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

11. I hear ya, Sharon.

Biden did pleasantly surprise me tonight, but I'm still holding out hope that Russ Feingold decides to run. He is one Dem that I would work my heart out for...

[Sugarcoated]

16. Same here . . . about Feingold.

I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't run. I trust him to the point where I actually believe him when he says he's not sure whether he'll run. I yearn, dream of a President who I can be trust and be proud of.

[gglor]

22. me too

but biden sure did surprise, an informed honest opinion from a politician shocks me. But Feingold's record is superb.

[jillan]

40. welcome to DU gglor!

Biden surprised me too last nite.
Gave my little brain alot to think about.

[SharonRB]

31. Hey, Mo

Didn't we hang out in DC? Sorry if I've got the wrong screen name. I think it's the first time I've seen you here since the march.

Are you going to New York at the end of the month?

[pretzel4gore]

14. hasn't biden shown his character worth?

By selling out everything the dood must value (his country, his state, his political party, his good name, his family, the future, his very soul) all for the tinsel of temporary fame and money, hasn't biden ruined any reason for him to take up space on tv? Michael Moore isn't on tv.....
As ancient greeks use to say, character is fate (and joe biden maybe no worse then the rest, but the entire mover/shaker class has shown a total lack of honesty and courage etc)

[jillan]

5. Thank you for posting this.

Was just thinking about that!

I like Biden. Even tho I don't agree with him on everything, I'm glad his out there.

[babylonsister]

6. It was wonderful! Affleck rocked, Maher was great, and Biden

didn't act all political (much). Well worth anyone's time to see it!

[Clarkie1]

8. What were his comments re: Iraq? n/t

[Sugarcoated]

9. Biden's the foreign policy Dem candidate

I think he's a good guy and he's very smart, but he's still several names down my list. I think he goes a little over the top, he has that Kerry way of making things a little too complicated. He needs to hone it down and simplify his stuff for the masses. I'm not saying he doesn't have good ideas, I'm just sayin as far as being electable.

Edit to add: I forgot about Clark - he's head and shoulders above Biden on foreign policy - but Biden is not too shabby.

[madame defarge]

13. I watched it for the first time tonight...

I can't believe I haven't seen this before...(I really do need to lift my t.v. watching moratorium to include more than just the Daily Show & Letterman...)

Loved the bit about immigration: Maher made good points about what's really keeping wages down...It's not immigrants getting jobs that Americans want; it's Congress who hasn't raised the minimum wage since 1997. He said it's a damn shame that the minimum wage is the same as a cup of coffee at Starbucks. "If you raised the minimum wage, your wife would be having sex with a Jewish gardner..."

And now I guess I have to get Kevin Phillips's book; he was brilliant. The discussion about how the US is on a destructive path, like other civilizations just before they collapsed was interesting. Phillips: "But George W. doesn't understand that, even though he majored in history from Yale. He doesn't know any more about history than he does about making fried calamari..."

And, of course, the "New Rules" bit was pretty funny, especially "You can't go out to play until you finish your war..." and "Bush has a lot of balls with no real plan to get out..."

[fooj]

17. OMG! I am a Real Time junkie and this was, BY FAR, one of the best!

I strongly urge anyone who missed it to catch a re-run. HBO. It was a true gem.

Peace.

[ellenfl]

18. i loved the biden-maher exchange about dubya's

praying. biden thinks dubya makes decisions and then prays that he made the right one . . . as opposed to making informed decisions to begin with.

biden was impressive.

ellen fl

[madmunchie]

33. Great line!

One important word left out though,

"biden thinks dubya makes decisions (based on"instinct") and then prays that he made the right one

It was "instinct" wasn't it?

[ellenfl]

35. yes, biden made that distinction a couple of times. eom

[rumpel]

19. Good show, McKinney also brought up the voting machines.

:)

[Peter Frank]

21. I've always been impressed with Biden's experience & command of issues...

He's far more electable than most in the party.

[AtomicKitten]

23. Bill Sammon wrote a lot of hit pieces on Al Gore during the 2000 campaign

Here's the scoop on "Floodgate."
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h080499_1.shtml

assclown.

[monarch]

27. Thanks for the link

I used to read Somerby all the time before he started to get really nasty (it seemed to me that he didn't tolerate any other opinions but he was super in the really early days) and since he switched his focus to education I don't check in with him as often anymore.

[B Calm]

24. Still would like to see Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes or Thom Hartmann

on the panel....

[sandnsea]

25. Biden says Bush is going to bring troops home???

He thinks having 100,000 in Iraq at the end of the year is a good start? He may have a good point about civil war spilling over into other countries, but he's a flat out liar when he says Kerry, or any other Dem, hasn't addressed it too. In any event, we should be pushing Bush to bring home the troops we sent over there for the election, and not considering those troops any signal of progress in withdrawal. Biden lost me the second he said the Bushies wanted out of Iraq, he STILL doesn't get their agenda if he says that. Or he's blowng smoke or flat out lying, never know with Biden.

Good show, overall, but Biden is just like Chuck Hagel, lots of blustering talk, and then folds when you need him.

[fedupinBushcountry]

26. Agree

The show wad good, but what I got out of Biden was "stay the course". You know I would of expected him dissing Kerry's plan because of his running in '08, but to go on and on and say that Kerry doesn't have a plan to get out is totally false.

[monarch]

28. Biden has not worn well

I think he was crazy to become so overexposed. It's gotten really irriating to see him all over the airwaves every week. Does he spend any time being a senator? Oh yeah, I forgot, he does make sure that he protects the credit card companies and the other corporations in Delaware.

[qanda]

32. Ben Affleck is so smart

It was a very good show.

[Cleita]

39. He was great, what little he could get in. He made some

very salient points in plain language.

[madmunchie]

34. I like the line that Bush was shaving the leakers face every morning

[wookie294]

36. "Maybe Americans need to be lied to, in order to spread Democracy"

After that condescending quote from Maher in 2005, I stopped watching him. He also once said it's not a big deal WMD wasn't found in Iraq. LOL. He's an opportunist who gets angry when his audience boos conservatives.