DU is shutting down!!!

[TalkingDog]

Annoy somebody under a screen name....go to jail. Our ranks will be depleted in DAYS!!!

Every Southern/Christian/GLBT/Freeper (who have I left out?) on this board will put the smackdown on you.


http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news

snip:
It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

snip:
Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy."

[Walt Starr]

1. My true identity is disclosed.

:evilgrin:

[benburch]

5. Ditto!

But this law is pathetic. EFF or somebody needs to file suit and get an injunction against its enforcement.

[SharonRB]

18. My first name is really mine

Is that good enough? The other two letters are my middle and last initial.

[Don Claybrook]

24. Dare I say....

megadittoes?

Don Claybrook
Available via phone directory or NSA file

[stevedeshazer]

42. Same here.

I am who I am. I'll say what I want.

You can find me.

[SmokingJacket]

6. Looks like you and Will Pitt will be alone here.... nt

[benburch]

7. Me, Will, and Walt...

Sounds like we ought to order beer, then.

[Walt Starr]

13. Lots of beer

:evilgrin:

[karlrschneider]

66. I'll drink to that!

:toast: :D

[Richard Steele]

69. Double that beer order, guys!

:toast:

[Midlodemocrat]

38. What about locations? My user name is where I live.

:eyes:

[benburch]

as I read this...

Only your actual name will do. Though if your name is Joseph Smith and everybody called you "Stinky Smith", then "Stinky Smith" ought to pass legal muster.

[Midlodemocrat]

58. What if I posted on a website, say a progressive website...

(thinking out loud here) the really mean LTTE that I had published yesterday regarding that despicable human being, Ann Coulter? Does that count?

[benburch]

68. As long as your real name was on that LTTE...

no problem.

But this law is Unconstitutional on its face.

[KansDem]

56. Mine, too!

And also my party affiliation so the Bushistas won't have to take the trouble to go through my IRS records! You'd think they'd appreciate that, but nooooooo...

[stevedeshazer]

45. I'll be here, too. nt

[LSK]

20. my username is my initials - does that count? n/t

[benburch]

22. Yes!

You get to buy the first round! Guinness please.

[Vincardog]

2. Does that count for Freepers too?

[DUgosh]

3. mine too

[Initech]

4. The only good that could come out of this:

The entire internet advertising industry would shut down in a matter of minutes!

[dusmcj]

8. If I say Republicans play the skin flute and eat the music

(no offense to people who actually do that sort of thing) then I may annoy people, but that was not my intent, I was just stating (metaphoric) fact. So I don't see a problem here, please explain.

[Deja Q]

35. Stop being a Bush licker.

:P

[dusmcj]

73. let's all close our eyes and think of Crawford

I'm feeling abstinent, I think I'll take a vow.

Sure.

;)

[FreedomAngel82]

9. So if I don't want people to know

who I am for safety and stalkers or whatever I can't protect myself anymore? Yep, welcome to the police state.

[JuniperLea]

10. That's rather subjective, isn't it?

There are a few people here who annoy me:) But I'd NEVER want them put in jail because of that! It's called FREE SPEECH, baby!

Anyone could say that anything annoyed them! Dumb.

[FreedomAngel82]

40. Is this Bush really trying to get to the bloggers?

[proud2BlibKansan]

62. And all this time I thought your first name was Freedom

Mine is Proud :hi:

[Kralizec]

11. You're annoying me. Officers, please arrest the author of this post!

Thanks!

[Swamp Rat]

12. I think you should revise the title of this thread.

DU is not shutting down.

[William769]

15. I agree.

My heart sank for a moment.

[TrueAmerican]

16. Yup, the title is annoying

Looks like the OP will be the first one to be shut out.

[lpbk2713]

14. I'm filing suit against the Limbaugh website for just existing.

Where's my lawyer?


That's the biggest internet annoyance I know of.

[FreedomAngel82]

41. Don't forget O'Reilly and Hannity's boards

[lpbk2713]

46. All in due course.

Thanks for the reminder.

[Maven]

17. This post is inflammatory and useless.

Lovely how you put southerners, Christians, and GLBTs in the same category as disruptors.

Perhaps you're on the wrong board.

[TalkingDog]

26. Or perhaps the biggest flame wars start over these subjects.

I've been posting here since before the last election (in spite of my low post count) and I can honestly say there have been posts where it was a very good thing that posters were in different parts of the country. Tempers tend to flair over the incredible stupidity of people who make suppositions about the intentions or leanings of other posters.

Yes, the title is inflammatory. If that annoys you, just have me arrested.

[MsUnderstood]

19. okay so if they don't know who you are

How the Fuck are they gonna fine you?

[benburch]

25. There are ways to find anonymous posters.

I've gone into them here before...

[FlaGranny]

21. Well, I could go along with

the annoying e-mail part with subject lines like: "I drink go pinprick" or "Is sign it dehumanise lettered installation" coming in to my mailbox on a daily basis. It's hard to keep up with deleting them. I'd go for an opt-out of ridiculous, annoying e-mail solicitations law.

But, actually, our identities on DU are known - at least to the owners of the site.

[notadmblnd]

53. I been getting those senseless e-mails too

and have been marking them as spam. But I haven't been able to make it come to a stop. I've even noticed lately that some of them that come to me even have part of my e-mail adress in them.

So how do they jack our email addys and and use them to send spam and why has no consumer group addressed this problem?

[ComerPerro]

23. Skinner knows my real identity. So they'll have to torture him

until he talks.

Sorry Skinner...

:(

But I know you will hold out for us!

:hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

63. OOO what KIND of torture?

[Nikki Stone 1]

27. How the blazes are they going to enforce this?

??

[Contrary1]

28. This is my name!

My dad said so. :yoiks:

[davidinalameda]

31. I'm not gonna mention what my parents used to call me

I'd get banned from here

:rofl:

[Name removed]

29. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Minnesota_Lib]

30. An anti-trolling law (silly in and of itself) or in reality maybe a...

...way silence internet critics of the administration with threats of fines and maybe jail time--or just possibly this is the prelude to an upcoming "round-up" of dissidents....

[gkhouston]

32. if they can't figure out who we are as it is

the NSA just ain't workin' hard enough. ;-)

[txindy]

43. There is that.

:toast:

[Deja Q]

44. LOL - sad but true.

[AzDar]

33. How about 'partial disclosure'? My screen name contains both

part of my name and state.The paranoia driving this Cabal makes Nixon look like a knee-jerk liberal.

[Democrats_win]

34. "with intent to annoy." And these people argue against anti-hate laws?

Can you see the jury shaking their heads when the prosecution says "with intent to annoy?"

[Deja Q]

39. Just like patriot act being revised to nab photographers, "with intent to

harm".

Yes, the picture of the butterfly I have is going to be used to harm. :eyes:

[txindy]

36. Whoopsie. Bye-bye to freeperland, too.

Or are those ludicrous monikers the names their mommas gave them?

:rofl:

[Deja Q]

37. Don't you love SUBJECTIVE laws? It's Political Correctness gone wild.

[usregimechange]

47. Send me to jail.

[TimeChaser]

48. I guess that for once

I can be glad how easy it is to find my real name :shrug:

[Whoa_Nelly]

49. Lawyers are going to have fun with this one

when people realize they can press charges against those who are annoy them through email, websites, etc. All sounds rather ambiguous. Have to wonder what the legal definition of "annoying" will be and how that precedent will be set. And does this insertion into the VAW act give tacit allowance to gaining the identity and location of said annoyer?

:popcorn:

[thinkingwoman]

54. I'm no lawyer but...

I would think it would be hard to prove intent...


"I didn't mean to annoy him/her, I was just trying to take part in the discussion."



Beyond that, however, there is simply no such thing as anonymous on the internet (or anywhere else for that matter). It really does not matter what screen name you use because IP addys can be traced.



Pass that popcorn because this is going to be fun to watch.

[JuniperLea]

55. You can mask your IP address

I'm surprised it's legal, but you can mask your IP address...

[thinkingwoman]

57. techies I know

laugh about that...but then other techies claim you can.

I confess I have no clue if that is really true. But I don't mask mine, so "they" can all find out who I am, which means I most certainly am not posting anything anonymously.

Whether or not I'm annoying depends on who you ask. :evilgrin:

[JuniperLea]

61. Google

"whatsmyipaddress" and you can find all kinds of stuff;) Don't have to be a techie to figure it out either... proxy IP's are a sinch.

[tkmorris]

65. You can mask it sure, BUT

If someone else wants to figure out what it is it comes down to who is more determined and/or skilled.

[FreedomAngel82]

50. I remember a while back

reading here on DU that they were trying to control the internet. I think this is about bloggers. The article points this out: Think about it: A woman fired by a manager who demanded sexual favors wants to blog about it without divulging her full name. An aspiring pundit hopes to set up the next Suck.com. A frustrated citizen wants to send e-mail describing corruption in local government without worrying about reprisals.

In each of those three cases, someone's probably going to be annoyed. That's enough to make the action a crime. (The Justice Department won't file charges in every case, of course, but trusting prosecutorial discretion is hardly reassuring.)

[Theres-a]

51. I'm Theresa

Do I have to give my last name to be legally annoying?

[yellowdogmi]

52. I am sure this falls under the frivolous lawsuits w said we needed

to get rid of. So much for the tort reform agenda he is so hip on. (I think that is against the constitution too. Our right to redress for our grievances should be a federally protected right.) But is this out and out hypocrisy or what. On the one hand he says we need to stop junk lawsuits, then with the other hand he signs into law that will help them proliferate. I think the man is over worked. I say let him go back to crawford and quit screwing with america. Sounds like a fair deal to me.
:popcorn:

[Catherine Vincent]

59. My name is Catherine

That's all you're goanna get!

[lectrobyte]

60. No, I am Spartacus!

[alfredo]

64. What about spam? It annoys me no end.

[Rex]

67. I use my real name.

As Hare Booshmonkey said, "bring it on!"

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

70. My name is as real as Wolf Blitzer's. So I have nothing to worry about. nt

[Mr_Spock]

71. My name is "Suck my ass"

I just like Spock - he's my boy :rofl:

[tinfoilinfor2005]

72. This IS my real name. I'm from the planet Aluminium.

And if Tom Cruise has the right to his wacky beliefs, I have a right to mine.

(sorry, boys, I don't drink beer, but save the cans for me...I make a great soup out of them...) :)