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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:30 AM
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"West Wing" writers gave election to Santos after John Spencer's death
NYT: 'West Wing' Writers' Novel Way of Picking the President
By JACQUES STEINBERG
Published: April 10, 2006

Like many political campaigns, the presidential election depicted last night on "The West Wing" on NBC would have had a different ending had it been held four months ago.

But the reversal of fortune for Matt Santos — the Democratic nominee, played by Jimmy Smits, who was the victor — had nothing to do with any shift in opinion among voters.

Instead, Lawrence O'Donnell, an executive producer of the show, said he and his fellow writers had declared Santos the winner only after the death, in mid-December, of John Spencer, who portrayed Santos's running mate, Leo McGarry. At the time of Mr. Spencer's death, the plot for last night's episode had been set: the election was to be won by Alan Alda's Arnold Vinick, a maverick Republican (modeled a bit on Senator John McCain), whom many Democrats (including the Democrats who write the show) could learn to love.

But after Mr. Spencer died, Mr. O'Donnell said in a recent interview, he and his colleagues began to confront a creative dilemma: would viewers be saddened to see Mr. Smits's character lose both his running mate and the election? The writers decided that such an outcome would prove too lopsided, in terms of taxing viewers' emotions, so a script with the new, bittersweet ending — including the election-night death of Mr. Spencer's character — was undertaken by John Wells, executive producer of "The West Wing" and "E.R."...

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Mr. O'Donnell, a onetime adviser to Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, said he was especially proud of the show's response to the increasingly shrill political debate in the real world, particularly on cable news. As it became tougher to learn much of any substance from programs like "Crossfire" on CNN, now defunct, "The West Wing" seemed to delve deeper into real issues like health care and education, as exemplified by the raw, one-hour live debate last fall between Matt Santos and Arnold Vinick....(T)here were no registered Republicans in the most recent incarnation of the "West Wing" writers' room, which included Eli Attie, a former speechwriter for Al Gore. Though the show began at the end of the Clinton administration, it soon found its creative niche by evoking a parallel reality, one that imagined how the White House might have been different if George W. Bush had not been elected to two terms....

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/10/arts/television/10wing.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:33 AM
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1. If there were Republicans like Vinick I would learn to love them
In the real world, however, holding up phoney baloney Republicans like Vinick only gives covers to republican bastards like Delay or President Bush or Ann Coulter.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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MalachiConstant Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:38 AM
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4. agreed
i think that the writers go to great lengths to portray alda's character as a "real" republican. it's the characters that worked with alda (campaign advisors) that i did not like.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:39 AM
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5. Agreed. When Vinick said a resounding NO to his handlers
when they were arguing he should fight the election, all I could think ws "If only the REAL politicians could be that ethical!"
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:34 AM
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2. thanks for the op
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:35 AM
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3. Anytime!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:41 AM
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6. If Santos had not won, I would have blew a gasket & boycotted NBC!
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 08:42 AM by William769
Ever since 2000 I could not have handled losing again, even if it was only on a tv show.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:35 AM
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7. Conservative media at work again....
There's not a republican IN THE WORLD even REMOTELY like Alan Alda. The writers went to Herculean lengths to make him look good. On the other hand, there are plenty of Democrats who are very similar to Smits - the writers didn't have to spend even 1/4 the effort to make Smits look good.

As usual, the conservative media goes out of its way to make republicans look good - fostering the FALSE impression of a moral equivalence between Democrats and republicans.

All affirmative action for republicans, all the time.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:00 AM
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9. I'm presuming you meant Alda's character, Vinick,
and there are repub like him. Not many,but they're out there. Lincoln Chafee and Rep. Jim Leach come to mind. So does Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins. There are others. Jim Jeffords may not be a repub now, but he was one for a very long time. Calling West Wing affirmative action for repubs is laughable.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:31 AM
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12. Sigh. Another missed opportunity to read charitably...
Fine. There are no republicans like Alda who could conceivably be the republican nominee for President.

Any charitable reader could've come up with that clearly intended qualification...

Similarly for: the republican affirmative action remark was in regards to the storyline UNDER DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:54 AM
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8. Gee, thanks for the spoiler in the thread title
We haven't got that far in the UK showing yet. :-( :thumbsdown:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:00 AM
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10. I'm sorry. I didn't think about our friends out of the country --
and it's too late to edit.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:10 AM
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11. NYT is so full of s*&t.
Here is the last line from the blurb:

"found its creative niche by evoking a parallel reality, one that imagined how the White House might have been different if George W. Bush had not been elected to two terms...."

Elected to 2 terms? Really?

Fuck you NYT. You will not rewrite history.

At best, * was elected in 2004 for the 1st time.

/rant over/
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