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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:33 AM
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The 20 year war.. They are planning for 20- 70 years of global conflict..
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 10:11 AM by converted_democrat
on edit- They seem to be planning for a 20- 70 year war.. The first article says 20 the second article is pushing for 70..

much more at link-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,,1750656,00.html

The trailer park HQ where the 'long war' is being waged.
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Behind a fence in what was once a car park in a major American military installation sits a tight formation of green-trimmed white trailers, where flags belonging to countries from Australia to El Salvador flutter in the Florida breeze.

It may look like one of the multitude of retirement communities that dot the shores of the sunshine state. But this set of trailers in Fort MacDill, near Tampa, and the military officers who emerge from their tin doors in various configurations of camouflage, are engaged in a far more serious enterprise. They are planning for a global conflict that, Washington believes, will dominate the next 20 years. The Pentagon calls it the "long war": an integrated military, financial and diplomatic campaign against al-Qaida and its affiliates that will eventually span the globe, shaping the lives of the coming generation much as the cold war defined the baby boomers.

And yet within the very heart of Centcom the contours of the coming clash remain a matter of debate. The 63 countries represented here see a need for a joint effort against al-Qaida, but are not at all sure that they share America's vision, or its leadership, of that war.


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Newt is advisising that the we should plan on conflict that could last 70 years, and Rumsfeld seems to be listening..

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/article_1135078.php/Rumsfeld_pushes_Gingrich_Long_War_strategy

Rumsfeld pushes Gingrich Long War strategy
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WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is circulating a strategy paper by former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, asking top deputies to take another look at the QDR with it in mind.

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The third step is establishing a 'theory and system' for winning the Long War with the Irreconcilable Wing of Islam.' Gingrich suggests the war could last as long as 70 years, and complains that there is no central guidance for this new struggle on par with George Kennan`s 1949 'Long Telegram' and Paul Nitze`s 1950 NSC-68, both documents that described the problem of, and proposed a policy for, defeating the Soviet Union in the Cold War. Gingrich says that theory must be developed, as well as a strategy for keeping weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of dictators or rogue regimes that might give them to terrorists.

'Twenty-two years after the Marines were killed in Beirut and five years after the 9/11 attack on the American homeland, we still do not have a clear and compelling explanation of the Long War, the theory on how to win it, and the strategy and structures which that victory will require,' he writes.



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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:10 AM
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1. Kick...20- 70 years of conflict isn't as big of deal as I thought..n/t
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:15 AM
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2. Can't give me a decade
in human history where there wasn't a war going on somewhere.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:22 AM
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3. I think it's a big deal that our resources are going to be sucked
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 10:22 AM by converted_democrat
dry for 20- 70 years on a farce to make * and his cronies richer.. Not to mention all of the death and destruction that will come with it? I realize that war has been going on forever, but there are nuts in the WH, and they are going to commit these atrocities with our tax dollars in our name.. Are you okay with that?
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 10:40 AM
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4. No
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 10:41 AM by NoMoreMyths
But when has that ever stopped the US Government(or any government) from taking our tax dollars and using it to kill people in some far away land?

I'm sure you know of Smedley Butler, and "War is a Racket".

Sure, Vietnam eventually stopped(but it did start). But after that came Chile, and Iran, and Iraq, and everything else.

If America wasn't the top dog, whoever would be would be doing exactly what we're doing.

Power expands. America expanded from day one, using everything it had to eredicate anyone who stoods in its way.

We do it today to set up military bases that span the globe. Be it in Iraq, or in Bosnia in the 90's, or in any number of other countries.

If there was something I could do to stop a superstate from doing what it does, I would. We've had sane people in the White House that have done the same thing. Time after time, we see the same results.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 04:00 PM
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6. Just because it happens, doesn't mean that it's okay.. n/t
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:08 AM
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5. Shrug
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 11:08 AM by baby_mouse
May as well have war everywhere, then, eh? I least no-one would be arguing over whether or not there should BE war. If everyone was already in a war, there'd never be time to think about peace, so I guess no-one would miss it.

Also, it would make young men brave and would cut back on human overpopulation.

Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. War, schmor. Who cares? If we nuke everything, well it only goes to show it was going to happen anyway, so we must have been right in the first place.
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