Let's fight for a total ban on condoms and viagra!

[undeterred]

I'm so sick of re-visiting all the standard arguments of pro-choice vs. pro-life. I think we need to totally change our strategy of preserving abortion rights by upholding Roe vs. Wade. This is a matter of equality between men and women, not simply a matter of privacy. I think its time we recognized that men have been given way too much privacy with regard to their bodies, far more than they are morally capable of. Men's rights should be pared down to a level which recognizes that they are no more capable of making decisions regarding their bodies and their sexual behavior than women are, perhaps even less so!

Let's fight for a total ban on condoms and make drugs which alleviate erectile problems illegal! This would be a perfect complement to a total ban on birth control and abortion for women.

Imagine for a minute that we adopt the Catholic position on sex as a matter of public policy. (That nasty wall between Church and State is overdue to come down anyway.) Every act of sexual intercourse between a man and a woman must be open to the possibility of procreation. Every single act. Anyone caught performing sexual acts which could not lead to procreation will be fined, and their names published in the newspaper and on the internet. According to the Republicans the really important failings in public life involve sex rather than money or murder, so lets make the ban on male contraception the center of the Democratic platform! In addition, children born to couples who are not married to each other will be made to wear the scarlett letter B(bastard). Parents of these children would be forced to wear the scarlet letter A(adulterer)or F(fornicator)as assigned by the court.

If we actually did this, I imagine most of the abortion opponents would suddenly become very quiet...

:evilgrin:

[AntiCoup2K4]

1. Seems a bit redundant

If you banned Viagra, why would they need to buy condoms in the first place?

[undeterred]

7. I imagine that there are plenty of older men

who use viagra but don't need condoms. We'd want to stop them from having sex too. :shrug:

[MADem]

2. Some creative bastard will come up with a do-it-yourself version

...with directions over these here internets! Sausage casings? Saran wrap? Lord knows!!!! And the stiffy pills will still be available on the street .... "Psssst!! Got any 'blues?'" For that matter, the illegal trafficking in those items would probably make some GOP pig a fortune.

Condoms used to be illegal in Ireland, too--but if you knew who to see, you could get them without much trouble.

[Horse with no Name]

3. Only thing wrong here

Is that condoms protect women as much, if not more, then men.

[undeterred]

5. The Repuke view is that if you stop everyone from having

illicit sex, you don't need to be worried about preganancy or STDs. That's why they don't want their teenage daughters to get the vaccine which prevents cervical cancer... "no sex" needs "no protection".

[William769]

4. Ban condoms?

Your joking right?

[undeterred]

8. Let's face it, men just don't have the moral capacity to make decisions

regarding condoms... just as women lack the moral judgment to make decisions regarding pregnancy.

*not joking, trying to be highly ironic

[William769]

9. Sorry but STD'S are not funny or Ironic (for men or women).

Thats my point.

[undeterred]

10. Being unable to make medical decisions regarding one's own body

is not funny or ironic either, and men are not in danger of losing this, but WOMEN ARE.

[William769]

12. I totally agree

But a ban on Condoms is just foolishness.

I think finding a better argument for your case would be in order.

[undeterred]

13. The argument that women lack the moral capacity to make decisions

regarding their bodies is beyond foolish... the suggestion that men lack the same moral capacity and should be abstinent except for ("safe sex" = procreative sex within marriage only) is a rough parallel and is not meant to be taken seriously, but to expose the ridiculousness of the argument against women's moral capacity.

[Gormy Cuss]

6. No no no.

Viagra would be encouraged if you're married. The rest of you can pound..no wait a minute --let me rephrase that. Get married or else.

Condoms are the devil's handmaiden.
:evilgrin:

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I think publication of fornication and bastardy convictions would be a great way to return to our traditional values. I'm a proud descendant of a couple convicted of the above by the Puritans. The proven fornicator also took the Lord's name in vain and refused to keep holy the Sabbath based on his court record.

[rman]

11. Could be a good talking point:

It's ridiculous that the religious Right thinks that availability of condoms and abortion is "encouraging sexual activity" - which according to them is a very bad thing, especially for young people - while you don't hear a peep out of them about advertising Viagra and the likes.

[lukasahero]

14. They don't care about sex, they care about women having sex

I like your idea, but it doesn't get to the heart of what the religious wrong see as the problem. It has always been ok for men and boys to "experiment" with sex. The problem they have is with women having sex.