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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:55 PM
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42 Percent - of your taxes go to military spending
That is the percentage of your federal income taxes that went to pay for past wars and the military in fiscal year 2005 (FY05), the year for which we are now filing our income tax returns.

FCNL estimates the U.S. spent $783 billion in FY05 for past and present military activities. This includes funding for the Defense Department, Energy Department nuclear weapons programs, military-related activities of other agencies, foreign military financing and training, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, mandatory spending for military retirement and health care, veterans programs ($69 billion), and the estimated portion of interest paid on the national debt which can be attributed to past wars and military spending ($170 billion).

http://www.fcnl.org/issues/item.php?item_id=1731&issue_id=18

That is shameful!

Seniors that can't get their meds because the "new deal" they gave them don't cover them. Kids are without insurance, school books and hot meals. Meals On Wheels can't do what they do best because there are no funds. We give a stinking 15 million over five years for aids help in Africa ... but we have enough money to buy more bombs. No money in that budget for armour for the troops or their vehicles, no clean water for the troops ... but signing bonuses are at an all time high. No education when you return or even a plank of a limb if you left one there ... older vets being dumped from the VA rolls ... so what the hell are they spending it on?

Shame on you Mr. pResident! Shame!
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Pugee Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:13 PM
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1. These videos help to visualize the waste of money spent on military.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:26 PM
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3. wow-- those were fantastic!
Thanks for posting them!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:02 PM
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10. I had seen the Oreo one before but not the BB one
Damn, now I am even more pissed off!

This has to stop! It has to mean something that we work to pay taxes to help others, not to kill them. When will they get the message?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:21 PM
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2. And if you are rich and invest in Halliburton...
your 15% tax rate on invested funds (vs. the top tax rate of 35% of the majority that go to daily living expenses) get you a nice big fat return.

Forget the poor mooks that cannot find a job (much less have extra cash to invest) and actually sign up for service and get killed or maimed in action to support the very wealthy getting that much wealthier on their sacrifice, sweat and blood and the tears of their families.

Bush did say that his constituency was the "have mores", and he has created the ultimate investment opportunity for them...military/security companies, and oil...and WEEEEE pay for it, in tax dollars, at the pump, and with our lives.

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:31 PM
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5. and with our quality of life all across the board
Forclosures are up and the bankruptcy bill doesn't give you a blanket to cover your toes with anymore. Granny has to sell her house and move in with you when Grandpa needs to go to a nursing home ... and even then, her SS check doesn't cover her needs ... or his! amtrack can't help us out with transportation anymore because they can't compete with the drive yourself in your suv crowd and we are looking to sell toll roads to other countries!

What the hell is happening in this country?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:01 PM
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9. I cain't say for absolutely sure...but it shore do feel like we're
getting fu*&^d right up the ass, by the self-congratulatory wealthy, who feel that they are getting their just due because they are naturally superior. It's kind of like the last 80 years or so went away. And what enabled this was the red-staters who were so afraid of gay-married-abortionists, that they didn't think about their jobs and their lives, and they just kind of helped us all get screwed...and they will never admit it.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:30 PM
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4. I think it's funny
whether groups count social security as part of the budget or not depending on the point they're trying to make.

Do poor people pay mch income tax or ot?

Of course they do because you must count social security and medicare since that is a much greater part of the taxes they pay than income taxes.

Does the military budget take up 42 % of the total budget. Yes, but to get to that number you can't count social security and medicare.

That was just one of the more obvious oddities of this website.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:43 PM
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6. Fuuuuuck. I hate this.
I just ruined my Lenten promise.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:50 PM
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7. I am sorry
Did you give up cursing for lent? ;)

:hug:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:20 PM
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14. Tried to. Let's just say it's been a tempting environment
with these hoodlums in office. I should be less pissed about money and more po'ed about everything else.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:50 PM
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8. So basically you work 1 of every 8 hours, for the military.
And you should see what I have seen. Just look at a military surplus liquidation website. Or look at any one of the machine shops that provide service to the military. And you will see no cost spared. You will see parts machined on 9 axis machines that cost your years salary, that go into a missile guidance system in the nose of an airplane. I want to post some of them, but I don't even want to think about the trouble I might get in. But it's hard to appreciate unless you're in the business, or can actually see what I'm talking about. The bottom line is, we give them (or rather they take) our money in HUGE quantities. When was the last time you saw an off road dump truck? Not very often. Well, our military has them. They have things you wouldn't imagine. And to make mil-spec, you need expensive machines and processes. It's sick. It's wrong, if you ask me.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:31 AM
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11. as long as it keeps Iraq from invading our country
then I'm for it. :patriot:






:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:36 AM
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12. But you know how the other side spins it...
...like so:



65% of taxes go towards collecting taxes? Methinks the Lame Duck's "tax facts" taxes the facts to their breaking point.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:34 PM
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16. Mallard can't even properly quote another right-wing dittohead.
There ought to be jail terms for people who peddle such reckless lies. Payne claimed that the costs of tax compliance (i.e. audits and enforcement) were 65 cents of each dlooar collected.
And of course there are the costs of operating the tax system: compliance costs, litigation costs, tax planning distortions, and so on. A few years ago I made an attempt to add up all these burdens. The total was a 65 cent loss for every dollar of taxes collected.

http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleid.18407/article_detail.asp
It should be carefully noted that Payne's sole basis for this assertion is his own "attempt to add." I guess he's arithmetically-challenged.

These people lack any semblance of intellectual honesty.

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:11 PM
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13. So they can murder innocent women and children in Iraq?
Don't get me started on this rant, I may never stop screaming.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:20 PM
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15. $783B
Wow! $783B yearly on miltary spending today, vs $150B during Clinton's last year. I gues that shows the real meaning of 9/11 for the Republicans.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:40 PM
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17. Let's pass a law banning war profits
Any profits made above operation costs by defense contractors in a time of war, go back to the government.

How much would we save?
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:18 PM
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18. Time to include in our tax return a checklist
so we can check off where our money goes. I could personally send my return to education, the elderly, the environment, etc. And the freepers could make their choices.
Then...let's see where we would be.
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