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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:40 PM
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Not so famous Republican/"Christian" hypocrite
My sister just caught her Republican husband (who insists they raise their daughter in the "Christian" feminine-submissive tradition of his parents) cheating on her with prostitutes, using cocaine, and embezzling money from the company for which he works.

I'm telling you, any time someone says "oh he/she is a Christian. You can trust him/her" I see red flags go up all over the place.

I feel so sorry for my sister and their daughter.

What a shameless ass he is!
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:41 PM
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1. Poor thing... advise her to get tested immediately, please...
What a bastard. No one deserves to be treated like that...
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:13 PM
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21. We've all said something to her about it.
She's in such a state of shock that I don't know how much is sinking in right now. I'll remind her later when she is in the PO'd stage
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:42 PM
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2. Why feel sorry for her? It's better that she knows, Be glad she
found out today, rather than tomorrow.
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EllieGreen Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:44 PM
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6. I think what the poster means...
..is that they feel sorry for her having to go through this, period. Not that she found out.

At least, that is how I feel about it. Glad she did find out, but feel sorry that she has to go through it at all.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:43 PM
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3. Did you ever notice?
(who insists they raise their daughter in the "Christian" feminine-submissive tradition of his parents)

the person raised this way doesn't recomend it?
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EllieGreen Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:43 PM
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4. This is why I can't stand hypocrites...
....because others suffer more because of their actions.

I hope your sister gets a divorce and turns him into the DA (revenge IS good, ya know). I'll keep a good thought for her and her daughter.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:44 PM
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5. My oft used phraseology
Don't tell me you are a christian, let me figure it out for myself.

My sympathies to your sister, but I must say your brother in law sounds like a classic "christian conservative." Maybe he's done what he has done because he is so persecuted.
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slide to the left Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:51 PM
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15. No joke
I like that phrase, I'm gonna use it.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:45 PM
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7. My best friend has a sister like your sister
And they are a nice, Republican, "Christian" family. My friend was propositioned by her sister's husband!! My friend is an avid leftie who has kept silent.

People like these men are asses indeed.



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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:34 PM
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29. Well, you can't blame him for trying.
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:35 PM by NCevilDUer
After all, everybody knows those lefty women are all loose. They don't have no morals at-tall.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:16 PM
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31. I guess it's okay for "Christians" to try on leftie women
Since God put a certain "caliber" of woman on earth to take care of a man's "needs"?

Ha. That old boy better watch out. My friend hasn't kept silent for this long without a reason. That little trump card is still in hiding and waiting to be played. Leftie women tend to be smarter as well.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:46 PM
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8. she knew he was a Republican
thats bad enough, you should have known no-one comes first with them.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:46 PM
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9. I feel the same way about the red flags.
My first instinct is "what are they covering up?"
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:46 PM
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10. My husband is a remodeling contractor
He does high end kitchen & baths. He works for a lot of doctors, brokers, ranchres, lawyers etc. The one professional he won't work for - clergy. He has worked for several over the years, both residential & commercial. They are cheap, always trying to get something for nothing, even though they are living in 5,000 sqft houses the church pays for. They take too long to pay up. Most of his clients write the check when they get their progress invoice. Clergy usually has to be called a few times with constant excuses.


AValdoux
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:52 PM
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16. When the clergy don't pay up, have your husband sing them a hymn
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 02:53 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
called "Lien on you, if you don't pay
'Cause the courts will find my way
And your congregation'll weep
When they see how me you treat...." (Try it to the tune of "Rock of Ages")
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EllieGreen Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:54 PM
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18. *scribbles that down" Thanks! n/t
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EllieGreen Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:53 PM
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17. And here I though my Aunt's story was an isolated incident.
She owns a restaurant, and every Sunday here comes the pastor of the Baptist church with his family. The first time, he got upset because he had to pay for his meal...he thought that because he was clergy, he should get a free ride.

Since then, he has complained about the food, the service, whatever in an attempt to get a free meal. Did I mention that he never tips the server?

Last Sunday, my aunt flat out told him (before he was seated) that he was not welcome. Apparently, he left last week's waitress in tears. He wrote a letter to the local newspaper that this is "just one more incident of Christians being persecuted." The editor is a friend of my aunts, and did not publish the letter but did show it to her.

Unbelievable.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:49 PM
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11. I am sorry for her
One must realize that Christianity (in this country; I'm sure the same is true in countries with other dominant faiths)is sometimes used as an excuse by scoundrels. I am always very leery of a person who wears their faith on their sleeves, as it were, and talks up their piety. Piety and religious dedication are best shown, imho, by the way a person acts.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:10 PM
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20. Yep
When someone's waving a flag or a Bible in my face, I can't help wondering what it is they're trying to block my view of? And often as not, it's something unsavory that they're doing. Which confuses a lot of people, who then equate love of country or concern for others with these scam artists.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:44 PM
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30. I agree
whether Christian or some other faith, the fundamentalists of many religions use their faith as a sort of "Get Out Of Jail Free" card, as though live were a version of the game of Monopoly. I can't imagine having the gall to demand free services on the basis of my religion. You are right when you say that people who wear their faith on their sleeves are using it as an excuse, and they are, indeed, scoundrels.
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slide to the left Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:50 PM
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12. Hope she turned him in to his employer
He should go to jail.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:20 PM
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25. She's working on that part
Is hiring an attorney to help her decipher some of what she has found. The guy did a good job leaving a scanty paper trail.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:50 PM
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13. I'm so sorry
I hope she dumps his ass and finds someone good.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:51 PM
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14. You don't mention if he was
a church-goer himself, or just following his parents' style of raising daughters. You do say he's a Republican.

I'm curious.

I personally think that some people get involved in the born again movement because they really DO need to be born again, they're so sorry as they are. Sounds like he is one. (if he is in the church)

T-Grannie
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:17 PM
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23. He went when it looked good to others...
...that's my theory anyway. He really only seemed to need to go when family was in town, holidays, or days he was particularly pious. He had plenty of reasons NOT to go on the other days, however. Must have been the days he was particularly jittery or hadn't had enough sleep from his antics the night before.

Hey, at least they were high-priced call girls instead of off the street pickups. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:How did he afford it? Using my sister's wages from a part time job that he was "investing" for her. She looked at the records of his "investing" activity and found that he had never deposited any money on her behalf.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:42 PM
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33. I hope your sister recovers
from this traitor quickly. How distressing for all of you.

T-Grannie
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:04 PM
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19. "...One has to be very careful
the guy in this FRONTLINE says it quite well....

http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript.shtml

"...One has to be very careful when people start waving the flag, finding out really what is behind it and what are their motives. We have a weakness in this country to almost give away the bank, if someone waves a flag high enough and long enough. Especially if he packs a Bible."

You can see the guy saying the quote in part one at about 10:45 here

http://www.xenutv.com/cults/gb2.htm

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:14 PM
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22. I am so sorry for your family *hugs*
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:19 PM
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24. That's the thing about these so-called "Christian Republicans"
they don't care who they hurt, as long as they get what they want. They profess to hold high standards of morals and ethics, but as we can all clearly see, and as in the case with your sister, that is often not the case. In fact, their behavior is often worse than the behavior of those they condemn.

I'm a Christian, but I'm not a Republican. I don't know if this will carry any additional weight with the big guy upstairs, but I'll say a prayer for your sister and her daughter. I know you'll be there for her, she'll surely need your support in the days and nights ahead. I honestly think she's better off. She will too, eventually, once the hurt has subsided.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:22 PM
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26. Thanks.
There is a big difference between the trademark Christians and the real ones.

Like others have said here...if they have to tell you they are Christian, there's a problem.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:24 PM
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27. For the kid's sake, I hope she gets full custody of the kids.
She needs a damn good lawyer and to keep the proof that he's embezzlin', whorin' and druggin'.

Sorry to be so cynical but an ass like this is sure to think his "values" are in the kids best interest. With proof, the judge will see it as the utter crap that it is.

Good luck to her. And, yes, it is better to find out sooner rather than later.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:26 PM
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28. I feel sorry for her!
Tell her we all still love her!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:31 PM
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32. I'm so sorry for your sister and neice, but glad she knows now.
I know that your sister will be having some rough times ahead... hope that she has no ideas of going back to him. And, she'll probably want to get tested for HIV, as it sounds like her husband has exposed her to another world.

I have to tell everyone here... the most depraved, hypocritical, dishonest, people I have ever met have been "christian" republicans. From my best friend's MARRIED boyfriend that villified Bill Clinton for "cheating on his wife", to the uber christian youth minister who was fired for doing strange with to pornography while at work and paying for xxx websites with company money (he's okay tho, cuz he moved out of state and got a job as a youth pastor -sigh), another acquaintance who had a long time affair with a man professing to "love jesus" while depriving his toddler daughters of a decent family life, to the acquaintance who claims to be a good christian that neglected her children, and lies at every turn, to the so-called christian republican bosses I've had that ripped people off blind. etc. etc. etc. Yes.. there are progressives and liberals that are skanky.. but by far.. it's the ones that proclaim their pureness the loudest that are hiding deep dark dirty hearts. Be think they doth protest too much.

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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:39 PM
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34. Uh, no. She doesn't
"...hope that she has no ideas of going back to him."

She has no designs of that nature at all. She's planning on leaving him or kicking him out...one or the other.

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