They are killing 100,000 cows TODAY!

[Harper_is_Bush]

http://www.ers.usda.gov/news/BSECoverage.htm

And that's JUST the US slaughter, EVERYDAY!

Imagine what the daily US slaughter of chickens is. Gotta be 10 times that...a cool million.

Monsters.

[TomInTib]

1. Did you know that over half of the antibiotics consumed in the US

are consumed by the beef, pork, and poultry biz?

A feedlot beef cow can consume a lot of petroleum, as well.

A study by Cornell University contended that a feedlot steer consumes up to 284 gallons of oil over its lifetime.

The beef industry says that is bs (literally) and the average is "only" 13.83 gallons per head.

[FloridaPat]

43. Imagine how many people could be fed with all that corn that those

cows eat to get fattened up. As for the oil, feedlot cows are around 20 months of age. That's about 14 gallons a month. Seems a bit high since they eat grass for most of their life Maybe a farmer can clarify that.

[brmdp3123]

69. Sure makes them taste yummy!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. It's time for the braver cows among us to stand up and take

matters into their own hands.... absolutely do click on the albinoblacksheep link and LYAO.


http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cowswithguns.php


"Four legs good, Two legs bad."

George Orwell, Animal Farm.

[IndyOp]

14. Excellent animation!! Highly recommended!!

LOVED the chickens in choppers, too!

:rofl:

[Critters2]

25. Cows with Guns!!

My very favorite website!! Cow Se Tung!!

[Teaser]

3. Pass the A1 Steak Sauce

nt

[IndyOp]

4. You ever visited a slaughterhouse?

It is monstrous - unless you think a steel 12" bolt being driven through a live cows skull is somehow okay. The cow senses nothing, so it is humane, but it is also grotesque.

The way chickens live and die is also monstrous. They cut down/off the beaks of chickens so they can overcrowd cages -- if they don't cut down/off their beaks they will kill each other in their stress.

The trauma of the animal as it lives and dies enters you when you eat that animal.

That is monstrous.

[TomInTib]

13. That "trauma" is adrenaline. Anyone that eats feedlot beef is crazy

Grassfed and humane slaughter is the only way to go if one is going to eat beef.

[LeftyMom]

5. Your point is?

Yeah, that's disgusting and evil too. We know that.

Don't you have a picture of your PM to moon over or something? The big kids are talking.

[The Backlash Cometh]

8. Ssssshhhh! Just be thankful she didn't go on to veal.

[flvegan]

6. Someone's taking it

personally.

Look, defend the seal hunt all you want. Sort of a strawman here, don't you think?

[nonconformist]

7. People eat those. nt

[leftchick]

9. funny

ha ha

[MercutioATC]

10. Yum!

I'm warming up the grill...barbeque anybody?

[Mojambo]

11. And still no discount on those Big Macs

I am indeed disgusted.

[Harper_is_Bush]

12. 500,000 baby chicks gassed/grinded alive every day!!!!

The slaughter is finished. It took a week to complete, but in response to a deadly flu outbreak Hong Kong has managed to kill nearly every one of the 1.3 million chickens raised within its borders.

Reports of the slaughter came on the television news. I saw footage of a chicken being yanked from her tiny cage, then thrust into a garbage bag to suffocate, smothered between white plastic and the weight of other dying chickens.

snip

In terms of numbers, though, Hong Kong's emergency action doesn't compare to what the U.S. egg industry does on a daily basis: It kills more than half a million male chicks almost as soon as they poke their way through their shell.

A newly hatched chick, if you've ever held one, is as affectionate as a kitten. They hatch with their eyes open and can hop around almost immediately. Watch a chick hatch from his shell and sit with him and he'll bond with you almost immediately, pecking food from your hand and seeking out your warmth and the rhythm of your heartbeat.

But if it's a male chick at an egg farm, he will die before he takes a bite of seed or a drink of water.

snip

An unwelcome thing happens when egg producers breed 200 million female layer chicks: They also get 200 million male layer chicks, which, to the egg industry, are worthless. They can't lay eggs and they won't grow enough flesh to be worth raising as broilers. So they're killed. The egg industry employs "sexers" -- people who do nothing all day but examine the birds' feather patterns to determine their sex.
The males are tossed into discard containers.
The more fortunate ones are gassed. Many are dropped alive into grinders, to be ground into fertilizer.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/01/09news.html

[MercutioATC]

15. O.D. them on heroin or something...let 'em live a little...

Seriously, the grinder thing does sound a little extreme. Gassing? I can live with that.

[flvegan]

19. With all this outrage from you

I'm sure you've disassociated yourself from their consumption, yes?

Maybe you're just trying (real hard) to make a point.

The answers to both suggestions...laughable. Thanks for the entertainment.

[IndyOp]

24. I have no clue why you think *any* of this is acceptable.

Seals, cows, chicks...

We do damage to our environment by consuming animals that place a huge burden on our planet -- it is ever so much kinder to the planet to organically grow and eat grains and vegetables than to feed huge amounts of same to animals and then for us to consume small amounts of the animal.

:shrug:

[Harper_is_Bush]

44. I didn't say I did.

I just think the reaction to *some* of it is disproportionate.

I would be very happy if everyone turned away from meat. It's killing us and the planet.

[Harper_is_Bush]

33. Holy SHIT! 25 MILLION CHICKENS SLAUGHTERED EVERYDAY IN USA!!!

According to PETA:

Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman for PETA, said the group hopes other companies will be forced to join McDonald's.

The change will "alleviate the suffering for the 9 billion chickens who are slaughtered in the United States each year," he said.Text

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0412300179dec30,1,4528549.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


Somebody tell Captain Watson!

[LeftyMom]

37. Uh, he's a vegan.

So he's not contributing to the problem of animal exploitation. Whichever aspect of it he chooses to go after is his own business, but you're implying that he's some sort of hypocrite and that's not the case.

[Harper_is_Bush]

71. Huh? Who?

The reply was to myself, and I'm not a vegan.

Who are you bravely defending?

[LeftyMom]

73. read your post

"Somebody tell Captain Watson!" -HarperisBush April 12, 2006

[Harper_is_Bush]

75. Oh him. Well, I guess I missed that because it's irrelevent

what Captain Watson is. I was suggesting someone tell him because if he knew he'd likely want to make the slaughter of chickens in the US a prominent cause of his organization.

I wasn't suggesting that he consumed chickens. What on earth gave you that idea?

[DemoTex]

16. And I am having trouble finding calves hooves for my stock pot!

WTF do they do with the feet, anyway? I need those great thickeners for my kitchen!

[nonconformist]

17. OT, but I love your kitchen!

I've been remodeling mine for what seems like years now (in reality, for the last several weeks).

[DemoTex]

54. Actually, I just contracted for a re-model myself.

We will keep the existing cabinets and go with new fronts and hardware. We will certainly keep that great inward opening French window. I am looking at soapstone counters and soapstone farm sink.

I am going with a Blue Star 36" cooktop (six burners .. two @ 22,000 BTU) with a Vent-A-Hood system rated at 1200-1500 CFM, a double oven (Gaggeneau, Kitchenaid, etc), a Fischer-Paykel two drawer dish-washer, a Kitchenaid 15" ice maker, a Kitchenaid French-door refrige, etc.!

Here is the review on the Blue Star range/cooktop:

http://www.departures.com/ad/ad_1103_cookranges.html

On edit: That review was done on a BlueStar with 18,000 BTU burners. They have since come out with the RNB series with 22,000 BTU burners. Serious heat for serious cooks.

[nonconformist]

62. Mmm.... Blue Star

I'm jealous! What great features! I avidly read a kitchen remodel forum so I'm very familiar with them. I adore soapstone counters and farm sinks!

[Kailassa]

18. mmmm ... there's nothing like thick, tender, barely browned steak,

succulently dripping with aromatic beef juices, served on slabs of thickly buttered fresh white bread. Moooist and delightful.

[Critters2]

20. And this gruesome work is done in non-union shops by immigrants

many of them illegal, paid next to nothing, with OSHA violations and serious injuries a daily occurence.
All so Smithfield/IBP, Hormel, and Tyson can make their executives rich. No true progressive would eat meat. Period.

[Katherine Brengle]

21. Perspective is everything.

Seals are cute and in general Americans, as far as I know, do not eat them daily.

"Save the whales, fuck the chickens."

Welcome to skewed logic 101.

[LittleClarkie]

22. We eat them because they're ugly

It's a service to the world.

We only want to save the cute animals.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

31. Not so fast, kid

Guess what we had for dinner tonight?

[LittleClarkie]

47. Cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon

I think I gotta stop eatin’ there at noon.
They say that it’s beef or fish or pork
But it’s purrin’ there on my fork.
There’s a hair-ball on my fork.

http://www.guzer.com/animations/chowmein.php

[LittleClarkie]

74. btw, Russian Blue

Oh, and one more thing...

Awwwwwwwwww.

[Critters2]

35. I used to live next to a cow pasture,

and found them the gentlest, kindest animals. Really interested in the world around them. They used to come over to my end of the field every morning when I went to get my mail out of the mailbox. I'd go over and pet 'em. Truly amazing animals!

[flvegan]

49. Untrue.

You should define "we" before such a post.

Service to the world, indeed.

[LittleClarkie]

66. Hang on. One more thing...

:sarcasm:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. For The Record, I Ate Part Of One Of Those Cows Last Night, And One Of The

chickens tonight.

They were both delicious, if that helps them to have not died in vein :)

[Katherine Brengle]

28. **vain** and of course not--now you get to shit them out, what a destiny.

[Critters2]

32. Beef--It's What's Rotting in Your Colon!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

36. Course, I Tend To Not Concern Myself With The Contents Of My Colon

You can feel free to if you'd like, but generally tend to think about other things throughout my day LOL

[Katherine Brengle]

48. Ignoring it will probably come back to bite you in the ass...

pun intended.

[Critters2]

50. Remeber that when they're scheduling your polyp surgery

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

52. I Hope The Hospital Serves Steak LOL

[Critters2]

58. The first few days afterwards, you won't be on solid food

Gotta let your abused colon rest

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

65. I Hope They Serve Intravenous Steak Then LOL

Or maybe Steak flavored coca cola. No biggie if they don't though, I could wait a few days but then I'm goin straight to Outback for a good NY strip.

And is it wrong that my mouth just started watering at the thought, even though I'm just typing a silly message? :rofl:

[Katherine Brengle]

42. lol -- i have a tank top that says that, but i try to be nice and...

wear it mostly at home... ;)

[killbotfactory]

26. And here I am walking around in leather boots!

I'm a monster...

Why, oh why, couldn't cows just be cuter?

[joefree1]

27. How many heads of Lettuce were hacked off today

How many microbes are eating you right now. Speciesism is a tough call.

[Critters2]

29. Lettuce doesn't have a central nercous system, and even if it did

Meat eaters consume more plants than vegetarians. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. You're the one killing plants needlessly.

[killbotfactory]

38. Even grass-fed beef?

http://www.wyomingnatural.com/

huh..

[Critters2]

46. Most beef in this country is not grass-fed

And yes, it takes a helluva lot of grass to produce a pound of beef. Again, meat eaters kill more plants than vegetarians. No matter what kind of plants your dead animal meal consumerd before its murder.

[killbotfactory]

55. Yeah, but we don't eat grass

:shrug:

[uppityperson]

41. And the carrots!

Hear those carrots whimper? No? Well, must not be sensitive enough, just sit quietly and listen carefully. shhh, listen.

[BlooInBloo]

30. ROFLMAO!!!!

And the pigs! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the PIGS!

oink. oink.

[Harper_is_Bush]

34. NEVERMIND THE PIGS, SEE POST #33! n/t

[Critters2]

39. But the pigs live horrible lives, too

I used to live in the county with the most confinement "farms" in Iowa. Mostly hogs, but some laying hens and some broilers. The real fun was all the security around the "farms". They do not want people seeing the conditions in those concentration camps!

[BlooInBloo]

45. I know! It's just like nazis and jewish people isn't it?

[Katherine Brengle]

53. Wow, way to dismiss a valid argument on clearly inflated grounds.

Now why don't you let the grown-ups talk, eh?

[BlooInBloo]

59. FALSE. The OTHER person introduced it. NOT me

I'm sorry for your sake that s/he did so, but s/he did. Don't even TRY to blame me for what s/he said.

[Critters2]

61. Not original to me

It was IB Singer. It's a commonly used analogy. Because it's true.

[BlooInBloo]

64. I never claimed that error was original to you.

You cannot be blamed for inventing it, only for perpetuating it.

[Critters2]

57. The Yiddish Novelist and Nobel Prize Winner

Isaac Bashevis Singer thought it was an apt analogy. He said..." In relation to them, all people are Nazis; for the animals it is an eternal Treblinka." -

"The Letter Writer" from The Seance and Other Stories
Isaac Bashevis Singer

[BlooInBloo]

63. The Yiddish Novelist and Nobel Prize Winner...

was mistaken.

It's too bad that people of all sorts think so little of people that they possess no more value than earthworms. It's an indicator of civilization's decay. After all, if we're of no more worth than animals, we may as well ACT that way, right?

I'll keep fighting to demand MORE of people than I do of animals, and be optimistic, despite all of the pessimism from the anti-people contingent.

[Critters2]

68. I thought people ate meat because animals do

That's an argument I get hit with all the time.

[BlooInBloo]

72. You lost me - lil help?

I eat meat because a bear in the mountains does?

huh?

[Zhade]

51. This isn't about compassion for the animals.

It's about making a flawed argument using a bad analogy (since we don't, as far as I know, consume seal).

[BlooInBloo]

67. We don't consume grass either....

and yet we *mercilessly* SLAUGHTER entire grass-families!! (When we mow the lawn.)

Oh the humanity!!

Oh wait a minute. THEY AREN'T PEOPLE!!

Sheesh.

[BlooInBloo]

40. Oh shit - I'm partly to blame for #33.....

I had two servings of butter chicken last night!

mmmmmmmm........ butter chicken..... (drool)


EDIT: spelling

[napi21]

56. If you don't like meat, then don't eat it.

You may think it's grotesque, but the way cattle are slaughtered is a humane way to do it. The animal never suffers.

If you honestly think you are going to change an entire world and make them turn vegetarian, you need some meds.

[Critters2]

60. Bit by bit

Even in rural Iowa, no decent supermarket would be without Boca Burgers anymore. And the animals do suffer. Go to www.meetyourmeat.com to watch 'em.

[napi21]

70. I HAVE seen it! I've visited slaughter houses.

My husband is a meat cutter, and I have been around butchering for over 45 years.

Yes, there are some people who at least say they prefer Boca Burgers to the real thing, but I think they're kidding themselves. If they really were against Beef, Chicken, Lamb, etc, they wouldn't be pretending to have "the same taste" in what they eat.

You have a similar thing with those who are clammoring for "organic". They might have a valid point in wanting meat and vegies grown organically, I question wether they're actually getting what they think they are.

[flvegan]

76. So have I.

I find your first statement a terribly sad thing to read, followed by a brush off of the inherent cruelty in the factory farming system.

Maybe one might think I'm kidding myself, but the feeling is more than mutual.

[pinto]

77. Locking.

The original post seems posted as a copy cat of a previous GD thread.

Thanks for your consideration.