Fountain79
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Wed Apr-12-06 08:46 PM
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Sensing change, migrants rush to the border |
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At a shelter overflowing with migrants airing their blistered feet, Francisco Ramirez nursed muscles sore from trekking through the Arizona desert — a trip that failed when his wife did not have the strength to go on. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12291035/
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Wed Apr-12-06 08:48 PM
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1. This does seem to validate the argument... |
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that guest worker programs only encourage more illegal immigration.
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Wed Apr-12-06 08:51 PM
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Springtime in the desert is when people cross since there is no 100+ weather or freezing temps that can KILL.
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Wed Apr-12-06 08:52 PM
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3. And what of the shelter's manager who says... |
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that this is the largest traffic that he has seen since 1986?
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Wed Apr-12-06 08:54 PM
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4. Because of economics, perhaps? |
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The people who come here want to help their families via the only route they know, coming to America.
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Wed Apr-12-06 08:55 PM
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but are we not to have any kind of control over who comes into our country and who doesn't?
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:00 PM
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believe it or not they make it up to Missouri. I've spoken with them, worked with them, etc. I've even done volunteer work with kids who are most likely the children of illegals. That still doesn't change the fact that we should have some control over who comes into our country no?
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:02 PM
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8. I have seen roadside memorials to those who have died |
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down here in the desert. Just because they want a better life for their families.
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:55 PM
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14. They were breaking the law. |
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It's unfortunate that that decision cost them their lives, but they WERE breaking the law. Let's be honest about that, O.K.?
I might want a better life for my family and there's nothing wrong with that...UNTIL I decide to break the law to accomplish my goal. Nobody's faulting them for wanting to improve their lives, just for their chosen method of doing that.
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:38 PM
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about that before you built your country on Mexican lands
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:49 PM
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11. you mean the lands belonging to someone else before mexicans? |
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the history of possession predates both "americans" and "mexicans" and "native americans" so your point is not well taken in this case.
the plants and animals would be much happier without any of us.
Msongs www.msongs.com/impeachbush.htm
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:49 PM
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12. Ever see the bankruptcy filing stats in the U.S. over the past few years? |
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Good economy, less filings. Bad economy, more filings.
When did filings reach a historical high? When the government announced the rules were changing.
This is ALL about getting into the U.S. ahead of an amnesty/expanded guest worker program.
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:55 PM
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13. Did you read the article in the link? |
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The shelter’s manager, Francisco Loureiro, said he has not seen such a rush of migrants since 1986, when the United States allowed 2.6 million illegal residents to get American citizenship.
This time, the draw is a bill before the U.S. Senate that could legalize some of the 11 million people now illegally in the United States while tightening border security. Migrants are hurrying to cross over in time to qualify for a possible guest-worker program — and before the journey becomes even harder.
“Every time there is talk in the north of legalizing migrants, people get their hopes up, but they don’t realize how hard it will be to cross,” Loureiro said.
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Wed Apr-12-06 09:05 PM
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9. In that article you link to, it says |
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South-central Arizona is the busiest migrant-smuggling area, and detentions by the U.S. Border Patrol there are up more than 26 percent this fiscal year — 105,803 since Oct. 1, compared with 78,024 for the same period a year ago. Along the entire border, arrests are up 9 percent.
Maria Valencia, a spokeswoman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said the rise in detentions did not necessarily mean more people were crossing. She attributed at least some of the additional arrests to an increase in the number of Border Patrol agents.
“We’ve sent more technology and agents there, and I think that’s had an impact,” she said.
Why didn't you cite those statistics when offering your OP?
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