LA TIMES-----Doubts About Taking On Tehran

[tjwash]

In a telling reflection of Bush's erosion in public support, 54% said they did not trust him to "make the right decision about whether we should go to war with Iran," while 42% of respondents said they trusted him to do so.

That was a reversal of public sentiment since 2003, on the eve of Bush's decision to invade Iraq, when 55% of respondents said they trusted him to make the right decision over whether to go to war.

The poll results and interviews with individual respondents made it clear that the experience of Iraq — both the discovery that U.S. intelligence was wrong to declare that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction and the costly continuing conflict against Iraqi insurgents — have persuaded many Americans to be cautious about going to war against neighboring Iran.

Entire story is right here at the LA Times.

[orwell]

1. What is truly pathetic...

...is that 42% still trust these proven pathological liars. That is the real problem. The propaganda state, so efficient at delivering bread and circus, has dulled the sensibilities to the point where politicians can openly and repeatedly lie and get away with it.

America deserves the nightmare that is engulfing it, as do most citizens of empire. It is an oft repeated story told by an idiot.

[electropop]

2. "bread and circus"

Certainly DC is a circus, and our media provide a second ring to the circus. But where's the bread? Under the Bushitler regime, middle and lower class spending power have dropped, as has life expectancy, while unemployment, poverty, and hunger have risen. They are taking bread out of the mouths of children and making the rich richer.

[tjwash]

5. DC is....

...a swamp that traded malaria for politics, and I think they got the raw end of the deal.

[orwell]

8. Except...

...under the Greenspan regime, money was created out of thin air in such massive quantities that income stagnation has been softened by below market interest rates. In other words, the public has gone on a spending spree financed by an explosion in personal debt. This hides the stagnant middle class income growth and gives the illusion of prosperity.

Until the bill comes due...

[tjwash]

4. Insulation

Everyone supported Vietnam at one time. We entered Vietnam in 1959, and people didn't get sufficiently outraged until they actually started to get affected directly by it 10 years later. Until people start getting drafted, and get forcably ripped out of their cozy little lives, nothing is going to change.

I mean seriously, who is actually affected by this war? Not half of our population, that's for sure. We have not even had to pay the monetary bill for it yet. If you are a parent of a soldier who happens to get killed, one of two things happens. The defense mechanism of rationalizing it it as "they died for our freeddom and democracy" kicks in, and they stay quiet about their pain, or they speak up, and let everyone know their rage, and get completely vilified as a crackpot by the "liberal media."

So we are still extremely clueless as a people right now.

[stop the bleeding]

3. don't trust the "librul" media

they are out to get us --


boogady boogady boogady booo!!!!

[Alamom]

6. They polled 1, 357 people to get this result. ........Is this a true

representation of what the whole country believes?

(this has been posted once already and the results can make you a little nervous as do many headlines and polls these days)

I am sincere with this question as I don't know the dynamics of taking polls and polling.


I have found (recently) by reading the entire articles, that most polls are usually based on around 1000 people.

Is this not misleading or does it really represent what the American voter or public believes?

By calling 1000 people, they can say (absolutely, including a 3% margin of error ) 54% and 42% believe these things...

It seems very misleading to say the least, but as I said, maybe I don't understand polling.

I would think after Iraq and all the other lies that have been exposed, many more than 54 % would not be trusting of this administration on anything.



edit;spelling

[tjwash]

7. Oh absolutely. The reason I posted this,is that...

...some drama-queening blogs kept citing this story, as "OMG OMG EVRYONE WANTS TO NUKE IRAN!!!11!1!" but didn't really point to any of the facts,and a more then a few of them cited the LA times article, yet didn't even bother to link to it.

I just wanted every to actually read the article, and make up their own minds about it...