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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:41 PM
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September 2001........ Iran was WITH us..
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 12:53 PM by SoCalDem
-In Iran, Tehran's main soccer stadium observed an unprecedented minute's silence in sympathy with the victims.

-Iran's Ayatollah Imami Kashani spoke of a catastrophic act of terrorism which could only be condemned by all Muslims, adding the whole world should mobilise against terrorism.

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The Images below are from a peaceful candlelight vigil on the streets of Tehran, Iran. (September 18th, 2001)

The pariticipants lit candles, mourned, and prayed to showed their grief over the loss of innocent life in the tragedies of Sept. 11th.




more @ :

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm#Expressions%20of%20grief%20and%20sympathy%20in%20the%20Arab%20and%20Muslim%20world:

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http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0917/p4s1-wogi.html

Global empathy: Will it last?
From Paris to Pakistan, a new perspective on the lone superpower.

By Robert Marquand | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

BEIJING - Knocking the "lone superpower," rightly or wrongly, was a post-cold-war sport until last week. America was caricatured as a giant Disneyland, a naive society, lead by "insensitive" hypocrites who tout democracy and human rights with little understanding of the world.

But that stereotype discourse has been largely silenced - at least for now. The scale of the New York and Washington attacks showed a country vulnerable, confused, hurt - and the world responded.

In Iran, 60,000 soccer fans and players held a minute of silence. In Germany 200,000 expressed sorrow at the Brandenburg Gate - where the Germans came together after the Berlin Wall fell. In Nairobi, site of a 1998 bombing of the American Embassy, the word pole (Swahili for "sorry") is on the lips of many Kenyans.

It's too soon to say whether the attacks will bring an enduring global common resolve, put evils at home and abroad into sharper focus, or permanently alter the image of a people more complex and traditionally "decent" than critics allow. Much depends on how America responds now, say analysts and people interviewed in various cities worldwide.
"The Taliban are terrorists.

I'm a Muslim but I dislike them," says Fazl Raza, a house painter who lives near Islamabad, Pakistan. "But before America attacks Afghanistan, the US must have an investigation into who did this. Then they can do whatever they want."
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:46 PM
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1. They were with us before they were against us!
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:46 PM
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2. It breaks my heart to think of what we could've done with this.
A real leader could've gone on national TV, and said that we must make good of this evil, that we must take this sympathy and this anger and grief and put ALL THAT ENERGY into making sure that there is never another 9/11. A real leader could've used this meme as endlessly as the Bushies have as a warning against fundamentalism, against hate, against violence. A real leader could've used it to say that now, we know we can all feel love for one another and think of ourselves as the human race and not (insert nationality here) and that we must take this valuable lesson and never, ever forget it.

I lost no one I personally knew in 9/11, but even if I had, or if it had been ME that was lost, I'm fairly sure that my floating ghost would've been HAPPY to have lost my life if such a result as that would've even been a GOAL afterwards.

I'm expressing this badly. It's just, waste upon waste upon waste. Evil that could've led to so much good, used on purpose just to beget more and more evil.


:cry:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:49 PM
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3. I disagree... you're expressing yourself very well
And you've hit on the one word that describes these past 5 years better than any other: waste.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:55 PM
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5. And I disagree with you...
...on the one word; I would instead choose "evil" as the most apt for the last 5 years, whether it be the active evil of Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice, the ignorant evil of Bush and his constituency, or the complacent/complicit evil of many, if not most, Congressional Dems.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:44 PM
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16. I disagree with both of you.
Can't be done in one word. I need three. Evil Laying Waste
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:08 PM
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17. Point of order!
Both JeffR and I were referring to words that darkmaestro had used, and selecting what we respectively considered as the one most appropriate to describe GW's tenure. You can't change the rules mid-"game" and use "Laying" (s/b "lying?").

:think:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:18 PM
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19. LOL! I can't function without changing rules and...
I'm operating on three hours of sleep. Consider me parliamentarily and gramatically chastized. ;)
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:26 PM
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20. Um, that's grammatically...two "m"s...
...:hide:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:36 PM
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23. Aw crap, I could have sworn I spelled it with two 'm's.
And nary a nap in sight. Sheesh! Got any pixie dust to make a three year old fall asleep so mommy can nap?
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:44 PM
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24. Yep, but...
...most people call it fentanyl. :think:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:18 PM
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12. After 9/11, we needed a Churchill or FDR.
We got Stalin instead.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:35 PM
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15. or a JFK, or a MLK, or a RFK, or especially a Jimmy Carter.
:patriot:
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:08 PM
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18. All we got was a GWB. :-( n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:49 PM
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4. They also lent support to the invasion of Afghanistan
by closing their borders to Taliban trying to escape. (Not to mention Iran-Contra.)
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:00 PM
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6. Yup, well remembered SoCalDem
And then the * Admin went and blew it all. Not some of it, not most of it, not a lot of it...no, thay blew ALL of it.

I'm in Europe and I can tell you everyone was devasteaed by 9/11. A smart administration could have had everyone from the French to the Brits eating out of their hand for years.

Instead, it's now 180 degrees the other way now, with negligable sympathy for US from the peoples or govrnemts of Europe/the World.

And the blame for that is 100% the administration's. It will take 10 or 15 years for a good president to pull some of that sympathy back. But no one will ever have the 9/11 chance again. That chance was there and now is gone forever.

Heckuvajob Georgie!
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:02 PM
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7. I think your post is incorrect.
Their is a difference between IRAN and the Iranian people. States (no matter who is the ruling group) have a vested interest in keeping "their" people on guard against the "Enemy". The enemy being whomever the State determines.

The people of Iran moved by the deaths of unfortunate innocent people expressed what 99.9% of the people the world over were feeling, sympathy for American people.

But, now the State of Iran must convince their people the US is their enemy, just as * must convince our people that Iran is the enemy...

For, constant blood is the goal of States...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:05 PM
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9. What you say is true, BUT
When people are part os a "threatened" state, it's possible to skew their thinking.. Look at the mass hysteria, that MANY people here have been afflicted with for 5 years..
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:11 PM
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10. Sure, I agree
The American people have been battered over the head with the bugbear of Islamic Terrorism for 5 years (at least). But, States using falsehoods and lying their people into war is not an invention of *. It's been around for years. The Shang Dynasty (1600BCE-1024BCE) was brought low by the Zhou because of Zhou propaganda over the barbarous non-human antics of the evil Shang (who lost the Mandate of Heaven due to their atrocities).

So, I'm just saying the fault of this lies in the world order which recognizes States over Peoples.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:02 PM
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8. And these heartbreakers..
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 01:03 PM by SoCalDem



Messages of sympathy for the victims of the September 11, 2001, tragedy. Send yours here.

* Dear America,

You are more beautiful than ever before and we can only love you more than ever before and we can appreciate the freedom you have given us more than ever before. Iranians know very well what it is like to be attacked by barbarians. Be strong and be American.

The most beautiful thing about America are the people. The spirit of these people will always be under attack. But be proud and remember these are the same people who freed Europe, ended WW II and sent Hitler to his grave, sent a man to the moon, protected the Moslems in Bosnia and who ended the communism.

I know someday you be walking over the terrorism's grave as well. I hope some day Iranians in Iran can openly practice and show their love affair with America and the American people.

Thanks for 22 beautiful years in your arms.

Your Servant,
Nader

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* Words can not express the pain we feel as human beings that accidentally were born on that part of the world. We share the pain & sorrows of the people of New York, this a human tragedy God help all of us.

Farideh Seihoun

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* You lost your friends, families, colleagues, but you are not alone. You have so many unknown friends all over the world who share your sadness, who are ready to take your shaky hands, to listen to you, to hug you, to cry with you:

Hezaar doshmanam ar mikonnad ghasde halaak
Garam to doosti az doshmanaan nadaaram baak
(Though a thousand enemies are set on my destruction
With you as a friend I have no fear of enemies.)

Shirin Vazin


many more posted condolences

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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:26 PM
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14. oh...I'm crying at work...
that last one really got me. The lost opportunity to unite people across borders and in spite of old enmities makes me weep.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:12 PM
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11. bush is such a f*cking idiot. What a missed opportunity.
instead of taking the initiative to draw country to us he straight arm's them with that "axis of evil" bullshit. It was all for show and to massage his own ego.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 01:25 PM
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13. Quiet! You're not supposed to be paying attention!
Move along, folks, nothing to see here! It's just your imagination.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:35 PM
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21. Stunning. Awesome. Recommended.
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 02:35 PM by tjwash
I got into it with a ditto-monkey the other day, and told him to go back to 2001, and the tremendous outpouring of support, and compassion from the Iranian people immediately following 9-11, and how his bush* hero pissed all of that goodwill away.

Of course the brain dead troll told me I was full of shit, it never happened, and Iran has always hated us. :eyes:

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:37 PM
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22. They DO have a curious way of interpreting FACTS...
FIFTEEN papers & news sites may report on an event, but unless it's in NewsMax, Washington Times or Fox, they insist it did not happen :(
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 01:51 AM
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25. God help us all.
Peace.
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